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Naruto 576 by Mangazone
[Japanese Raw 576]
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[Japanese Raw 575]
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Average chapter although it gives insight on how madara is able to do wood style
it begs the question
how do you intergrate something with a edo tentsei
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Yeah 2nd
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Itachi and sasuke meet, now what????
wait for another damn week!!
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lame, nothing happens
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That was scrappy chapter. Wasted another week waiting.
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Peace from SG
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Top 10 :P
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top 10! PH
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only a 14 page chapter...
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need to wait another week..
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top 20 in first time
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I wanted to get this comment early.
A lot many may complain about the lack of action in the past two chapters. I think it's a wonderful balance. It is what makes the story move forward. Just a couple of chapters back, we had chapter after chapter of insane action not so long ago. Also, it's hard to depict two events happening at the same time. I am typing here while at the same time someone may be reading the manga while another one may be having tea. It would have been weird to showcase 2-3 epic events (examples not so epic) happening at the same time along with their development without proper "pitstops" and cramming them all in every chapter. Atleast this method allows us to appreciate each such event to the fullest without keeping us waiting for eternity.
Besides, this chapter puts forth many ideas and questions..
=> This chapter confirms the long held theory beyond any doubt that an accomplished Senju + accomplished Uchiha = Rinnegan
=> This chapter may be a pointer towards the future of Naruto and Sasuke
=> This chapter also confirms Orochimaru had knowledge about the Rinnegan and he tried to experiment about it with Danzou
=> This chapter also shows a way towards Orochimaru's re-appearance through his DNA via Kabuto...just like Danzou and Madara...and that Kabuto will get the powers of Orochimaru as well
=> This chapter also showcases the death of one of the Kage
=> This chapter also leaves us on a cliffhanger about Sasuke and Itachi. Battle or talk? Will Itachi convert Sasuke to good or not. The next chapter will be awesome, just as much as this chapter was revealing!
- Anonymously Anonymous
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look like there will be a meeting b/w saske and itachi. i don't want itachi change saske minds it will spoil the manga itself
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=> This chapter confirms the long held theory beyond any doubt that an accomplished Senju + accomplished Uchiha = Rinnegan
nope, madara had obtained rinnegan before senju integration
sasuke's face was of wonder, i don't think he made up what to do with itachi yet... so it can still go both ways...
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@13
There was no mention of the Rinnegan in this chapter for you make those (false) statements.
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I wonder if sasuke will again fight Itachi or they wil be nore talk no jutsu for the next chapter...
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no naruto in this mange.....its not going interesting
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17 pages but it still felt like five -.- too much stuff is going on simultaneously!
i wonder how sasuke will react - looks like itachi didn't even notice him yet, haha why?
btw - i haven't seen any attempt of the kages to seal madara, i mean they should know there's no point just fighting him
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Do you think that's actually Itachi Sasuke sees? Has it not shown Itachi's face for effect, or to deceive us?
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wow 2week in a row in top 20..know you all don't care...me neither..this chapter was only gravy for next week...and we see on sasuke's face he's stund and still have a good side...or else he would have keeped a grim...
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look like all kages are weaking......look like itachi will stop edo madara...and sasuke know the truth.....may be sasuke will help kages.....look we wait for another week,....
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koniciwa
just read the manga to be honest... yea it has some info but on the other hand i cant wait till next weeks.. the look on sasuke face stundd. to see his brother. wat will happen itachi steps before his brother they get drown into a starying match :P ohw how nice eyes u have sasuke .. itachi being sarcastic not noing wat else to start with.. sasuke still giving his blank look... like how wat and who it must be dat damn kabuto hmmm . and kabutos like.B*&() how you like me now!!
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For some reason I think that Ooniki was a BA this episode. He found his will to stand and that is something to say.
But, I wonder if Sasuke will really stop and not attack Itachi. Because Sasuke truly just wants to be stronger, Itachi was only a goal of that power. So I predict Sasuke will Probably try and permanently destroy Itachi after talking with him for a bit.
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yeah~ cant wait any longer to read it~
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@13
I still do not think one of the kage HAS to die.I mean Madara was supposed to be this strong with hashirama's cells now the fight will become really interesting.I wonder what will be the outcome of itachi and sasuke meeting.i think they are going to talk of course it can still go on the other way but seeing them fighting again will be pretty lame.i just hope that will not happen.two characters fighting for second time is very rare in naruto world
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@ 15
Ah yes, you are correct.
Also, after reading this chapter, I can see Kabuto is on to something bigger about the SO6P. One can see he was acting on a hypothesis till now and got things confirmed and all doubts cleared with the experiment on Madara's edo tensei. Wonder what it could be.
@ All
I really wonder what it takes for Oonoki to die! He was the most injured of all the kage...after being crushed by a meteor in which a major chunk of the division was wiped out! Yet he survived. And even now, he seems the one to be going the strongest despite being the oldest. Nonetheless, we have already seen an ode to him, so I guess Kishi is going to kill him off soon.
I wonder if Muu will escape from there and ecounter Sasuke and Itachi in the way.
Also, I wonder what Sasuke is upto. He did unsheath his sheathed sword and started running into the forest...showing that he was alert about something or about to attack someone...but the frames hardly show Sasuke noticing Itachi or looking directly at him. Wonder if they will just pass each other, howsoever unlikely it seems.
- Anonymously Anonymous
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Decent chapter. Good to see Madara and the Kages back in the mix. OOnoki will die for sure. Now I can't wait to see what happens with Itachi and Sasuke.
I hope you all know next week there will be a lot of Talk-No-Justsu between the Uchiha brothers.
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No one mentioned that kabuto is going to edo summon the 1st hokage...
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@24
I think u r wrong this time.Learning truth about his brother really made sasuke MAD,he was filled with never ending hatred.I think he loved itachi best before he killed off uchiha clan.when itachi killed uchiha clan the love got converted into equal amount of hatred and after he learned the truth the hatred again got converted into sympathy and love that is why he keeps talking in his mind with itachi.i think itachi is the only one who can talk and change sasuke at this moment.
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@29 yung_savy_703
The 1st Hokage has been sealed with the death god.
@15 I'm not so sure because when Madara and Hashirama fought it never showed Madara with the Rinnegan. We know that when they fought that Madara gained some of Hashiramas' powers so that could have led to the Rinnegan. but we'll see.
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@ yung savy
because he isn't
@ feanor
so how is sasuke supposed to destroy itachi? he's still an edo and i haven't seen powerful sealing-techs from sasuke yet...
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@ 26
Hmmm..yes the fight has definitely become more interesting. But wonder how many people will digest the fact that the five kages battles Madara+Hashirama combo head-on and none died at all! Would be a bit odd. But yes, anything can happen in Naruto world. ^_^
Two characters fighting each other is not that rare.
Sasuke vs Naruto
Jiraiya vs Orochimaru
Naruto vs Orochimaru
Naruto vs Kabuto
Sasuke vs Itachi
Gai vs Kisame
Shikamaru vs Hidan
Kotetsu-Izumo vs Kakuzu
Kakashi vs Itachi (not the real Itachi ssecond time around)
Kakashi vs Zabuza
Muu vs Oonoki
Madara vs Oonoki
Naruto vs Nagato
Sasori vs Kankuro
Nagato vs Hanzo (not shown)
Naruto vs Mizuki (filler)
I may have missed a few. :)
- Anonymously Anonymous
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like the manga says, Itachi is only crossing Sasuke, he puts his trust in Naruto. Anyway, if Itachi couldnt convince him the last time, it would make little difference now. He is only visually passing him to show Sasuke, he trusts Naruto to do his job, maybe so getting Sasuke to doubt his own strong will.
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Madara and Hasirama in one,
KuKuKuKuKu..
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OMG
this was certainly one of the best chapters of all chapters kishi produced so far.
The scroll that suigetsu found, might be about the first hokage experiment (this chapter hinted that i think).
Onoki and the talk about his will and excuses was simply brilliant. Best lifelesson ever seriously.
Religious people please dont be offended (i am not religous btw) but kishi his naruto manga, is like some bible.
Not gonna produce any more text about the chapter for now, lost for words really.
I read through the chapter really quick, it felt short but i am really satisfied (although i would have loved to read more about sasuke and itachi, i guess its a great tool to keep the reader hungry for next week).
It saddens me a bit to think that the manga will end at a certain time. I really need some replacement manga by the time that happens xD.
Damm damm damm, it is such a awesome manga, i mean Manga :).
If I ever go to japan, i really would like to meet kishi.
Kishi equals genius.
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screw it, still gonna talk some more.
No!!!!!!!! keep your trap shut meow!!, ya ya, i know lol.
Mokuton flower world zomg awesome, with pollen.
It was said by kabuto that after hashirama, no one equalled him and not even madara and that no one can defeat this madarahashirama.
Obviously we will see that it is possible, even the edo version. Determination will conquer.
This chapter was so awesome, that tobi really doesnt matter crap anymore xD.
The rest of the story just has become more interesting than tobi.
You can keep the mask on buddy, I dont care about it anymore.
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@meowmeow 36
yeah...it is feel short, but im satisfied with the ending of this chapter..at least, we finaly saw a glimpse that sasuke and itachi finaly meet...the meeting will be great..it could be talk no jutsu..but..who knows ;P
anw, it would also a conclusion on what would be the end looked like..though i agree that i dont want to see this manga end so soon..but it seems it will..;D
glad i could see it online though..soo affraid cannot see the online scanlation again.. :D
zevro
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@13, where in the hell are you coming up with your theories? Accomplished senju+uchiha would=the sage of 6 paths again. Not the rinnengan. The rinnengan was activated because some of Hasiramas dna was integrated. Not some sort of freak pregnancy that an edo Madara and Hashirama were born. It has created a super freak of an edo, but there is a weakness and that scroll that Suigetsu found last week was the weak link for it.
2nd, unless somehow, someway Orochmaru is unsealed from Itachi's sword, he is not coming back.
I believe Itachi is just passing by Sasuke. Itachi isn't even bothering to slow down to acknowledge Sasuke. Itachi's goal is to stop Kabuto and he needs to do it ASAP. Without edo Madara being undone soon, there will be a lot more casualties besides the kages. Sasuke has a look of suprise on his face. Sasukes goal after seeing Itachi maybe to head to the kage field to test his true powers against an edo Madara even though he wants to fight Naruto so bad. Also, if they are crossing paths, Sasuke is heading towards the kage vs. Madara battle, not Naruto. Where did Itachi come from? Kage battlefield.
Last but not least, have we seen Sasuke actually use a fuinjutsu on anybody or thing? That's probably Sasukes weakest link. I don't think the can seal his crap let alone anything else up to this point.
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@ 29 there was no mention of the first kage being summoned and in any case he can't be summoned, they explained that before because of the death seal that his soul is now in with the 2nd and 3rd and 4th. This is why only Konoha had no resurrected Kages while all the other villages Kages were resurrected, no hokages were available.
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sasuke with hashirama chesthead and rinnegan + naruto with his sage mode and his bijou yang energy=extreme powered flower xD.
sakura means a certain flower right?
maybe she will blossom some more as well.
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@ zevro
imagine sasuke with a naruto face on his chest going ''hello dattebayo'' + grin.
LMAO!!!!!!!
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@ 39
sasuke on the toilet.
uuuurrrrrggg urrrrrrg /plop, crap falls in toilet.
/the flush doesnt work.
OH NOO i dont know how to seal my crap.
HAHAHAHAHA
xD.
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naruto on the toilet.
uurrrrggg urrrrrg /plop, crap falls in toilet.
/flush doesnt work
UZUMAKI SEALING JUTSU, SEALING OF THE EVIL BROWN SUBSTANCE. SEAL!!!!!!!
Me>sasuke dattebayo.
lol.
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The scroll that was found explains how someone can remake the sage of the 6 paths. I think that there was more on the tablet in the Uchiha shrine than just how to control a tailed beast. I think it explains that the bloodline of Uchiha mixed with that of the Senju clan can allow a person to gain the powers of the SoSP. Madara fought the 1st Hokage not only because of hatred (realizing that the Senju clan represents the descendants of the SoSP's son, but because Madara knew that the only way to become the SoSP reborn was to force this merger and the only way to do that was through battle.) We are going to find out that in the battle between Madara and the 1st Hokage that while the original Madara was defeated, he had already created a clone of himself, knowing that to realize the "Moon's Eye plan," Madara needed to become the SoSp reborn and to do that, he needed to recover all that was lost when the SoSp died. Madara realized that he needed to follow all bloodlines to get the pieces that made up the SoSp ie: rinnegan, remnants of the Senju clan, perhaps even later the byakugan. Only time will tell
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Is it me or does that Tsuikage's mustache looks like a piano? As for the shocked look on Sauske's face on seeing Itachi, last time he saw Itachi die right in front of him, and here he is roaming through the forest, he is probably wondering if he is seeing things. At least Sauske has another expression besides that cool, calm expression that he has all of the time. Wonder what the deal is with the black dot on Kabuto's hand.
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@ 39
Integration of DNA, eh? Sure we can talk in micro terms. I was just being macro in the description there. So then, integration of Senju DNA into what? Uchiha DNA. What happens in pregnancy? Integration of male and female DNA of the parents. The difference is about a new entity being born from the fusion. ;)
Also, as per your description that Senju + Uchiha = SO6P, that may not be entirely true. Otherwise, what we have right here in MADARAMA is an EDO SO6P!!! Why would then Kabuto make Muu run away. Kabuto has found the key to "creating" this SO6P from the hypothesis/experiment he tested/carried out on Madarama.
Also, I think you skipped reading this part in the sentence concerning Orochimaru...
"just like Danzou and Madara...and that Kabuto will get the powers of Orochimaru as well"
Orochimaru will "appear" just like Hashirama "appeared" in Madara and Danzou despite being sealed in the Death Reaper. Get it?
Yes, even I have a feeling Sasuke and Itachi may not fight. Itachi seems focussed on his goal. Wonder what will happen, though. Only Kishi can tell. :P
Also, I wonder if Sasuke has got all the powers from Itachi and hence, the Totsuka sword. Sasuke being a swordsman himself, it should give him the sealing power needed. But he definitely wont seal his own brother. Let's see.
@ Meow Meow on 36
Yes, it was a good chapter. However, if I go to Japan, I will be searching for a girl similar to Hinata. :D :D
@ 40
What about Danzou? Though not an official Hokage, he is certainly better than Kimimaro and Haku and a few others. Wonder why he wasn't resurrected. Surely his last move wasn't an atomic level destruction. o.O
- Anonymously Anonymous
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You know, I was wondering if Konoha will ever use this mind-blowing treasure ever?
http://narutoverse.org/Naruto/406/04/
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@ 39
Itachi didn't come from the Kage battlefield. He was carrying Nagato when they encountered Naruto and Bee midway, had a fight at some secluded place and then Itachi started on his mission to destroy Kabuto. Read the manga again.
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Sasuke already knew Itachi's will but continued to destroy Konoha, I doubt he will listen to Itachi now. Anyway Naruto manga rocks atleast is better than that annoying bleach where that arrogant hero Ichigo just pull out evolution from nowhere when he's in trouble
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My theories:
1. There will be lot of talk no jutsu between sasuke and Itachi but then Itachi will leave to take care of Kabuto.
2. Killer Bee will be captured by Tobi but in the end Naruto will be able to kill Tobi and acquire the powers of all the tailed-beasts.
3. Suigetsu has found the scroll which will help Sasuke acquire the powers to become SO6P.
4. 5 Kages will not be able to defeat Edo-Madara and hence they will ask for Naruto's help.
5. Itachi and Kabuto+Orochimaru will kill each other.
6. Finally, Naruto will sacrifice himself at the battleground and give all his powers to Sasuke with the help of that scroll.
7. In the end, Sasuke will become SO6P and defeat Edo-Madara.
8. Sasuke and Sakura live happily ever after....
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Lol oops read it wrong, i woke up n read it lol but he saying he infused madara with the first hokage cells... But didnt he already have that wen he first summoned him so how n the hell did get that there lol but yeah sasuke is deff SHOCKED to say the least...
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I think this chapter was short but insightful. I believe this further adds credibility to black and white zetsu being created from madara and the first's DNA. seeing the first's face in madara was very similar to the flower captian yamoto was sucked into to power up zetsu.
this leads me to thorize that Oro may be the true creator of zetsu given the experiments he did with danzo and this version of madara which is beyond the original madara's limitations.
as far as itachi and sasgay, there will def be a confrontation. if itachi does find peace and goes away, it will be due to talk no jutsu with sasguy... he may explain the true history of the uchiha massacure and the lies tobi uses to control other shinobi. if they end up fighting, there is no way sasgay can win even with his new powers. itachi still has the yata mirror and the sealing sword to combat with. this negates all of little brothers new powers if contact is made.
ahhhh... that was a releaving brain fart! :)
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@ 13 Anonymously Anonymous
Well put, but you know ain't nobody going to see things that way too lol
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Hy guys
Watch out, infinite Izanagi is on the way.
Madara is hell lot of stronger.
Madara has already beaten shit out of Oonoki in the past.
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@ 46
well noticed about the sasuke expression of being stunned and such, instead of that ''i am the leetness'' or ''i hate'' expression.
The black thing is one of those pebbles that kabuto uses for edo, like on that board.
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@ Anonymously Anonymous 47
haha :).
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Oonoki is going to die because when kishi wants to kill someone, he shows flashbacks of his past, just as he did with everyone starting with Zabuza/Haku to the Kisame or anyone later than him if I don't remember.
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hey guys just a thought ...do you think kabuto after powering up the zetzu's with capt yamato did some futher experiment on yamato with first hokage's cells acquired by tobi and then edo'ed madara into yamato's body hence the uchiha-senju integration possible
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This was an intresting chapter.
Prediction.
Hashiramas strength is compared to sot6p.
Madara is sayed to be weaker than Hashirama.
But current Edo Madara is stronger than both of them combined.
Itachi and Sasuke will have talk no jutsu.
Itachi will tell Sasuke , that on the kage Battelfield there is Madara possesing the same eyes , that Sasuke has.
Sasuke , will get mad and will tell , that hes the only uchiha worthy to have EMS.
When Sasuke arrives , all kages will be totaly worn out.
Madara and Sasuke will have talk no jutsu.
Madara will give Sasuke some lecture about Senjus,Uchihas,RS,Moon eye Plan and of course some information about Tobi.
Then Madara will tell , that Tobi is someone alot stronger than he is even in hes current state.
Sasuke and Madara will start fighting then.
Madara compliments Sasuke for having even more superior Susanoo and Amaterasu.
But then of course Sasuke will be worn out in the end.
When Madara is stating victory.
Sasuke will snap and achieve new ability from EMS.
Madaras reaction will be "Impossible" to have achieved the ultimate Sharingan tech.
Madara remembers something writen on the Tablet(or mentioned somewhere else) , that this was some of the techniques used by The Elder Son(The true avenger)
Madara will go all out , but eventualy Sasuke wins the battle.
Kabuto will get mad and tries to retreat.(hes anger towards Sasuke will grow..but has a smile on hes face)
Itachi will arrive , they will have some talk no jutsu.
/////idk wat is going to happen in here so I skip it)
Some of the Kages will talk to Sasuke , about saving them from complete destruction.
Sasuke ignores them and runs towards Naruto and Tobi.
Sasuke arrives , Tobi asks Sasuke to kill Naruto.
Sasuke states , that he killed Edo Madara(By unknown means) and doesnt take orders from
a lier.
Tobi will be surprised , ( Imposible...thinking in hes mind ...could he be the TES reborn...This changes nothing)
Naruto will asks Sasuke. Did you hurt the Kages?
Sasuke , will say , that he dont like to fight weaklings like them.
Naruto will be thinking in hes mind (It's good right now Tsunade ,Gaara and others are OK)
Tobi will ask Sasuke why are you here?
Sasuke asks tobi who he really is.
Tobi will take off the mask.
Satisfied?
Everyone(...................)
Tobi will comment , that no one living are not familiar with hes appearance.
To be continued.
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Damn good chapter. Last few chapters were really boring showing TOBI VS Naruto & Co, where naruto went insanely strong and Tobi did nothing but watch. At least, last two chapters really let us know that there r other characters to play. It's a relief that boring Tobi VS Naruto gets a hold.
Orochimaru.......Oro.........He was entirely on another level far beyond anyone's imagination. I wish if Oro would present here too...If that had happened, then Manga would have been on another level. I have a sense that we might going to see Oro somehow......Maybe by the scroll, which Suigetsu found in last chapter coz at the present situation of manga, there was no need to reintroduce Suigetsu again. Kishi Sama must did it on purpose. The scroll may contain technique to revive Oro even if he was sealed for eternity (Remember, Diedara VS Sasuke, Sasuke gave scroll to Suigetsu to summon him or manda back).
It seems Onoki is a much better shinobi than loud-mouth Raikage and dust release really is an awesome technique.
Nice development of story......Now the million dollar question is what will be the fate of two brothers????
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madara is a legend and he will die a legend. no one in naruto universe will be able to kick his ass. he will remain undefeated and will leave the living world with pride when itachi stops kabuto's edo tensai. the ending impure world ressurection will lead to the itachi and madara leaving the living world in pride
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Hey guys...i think the manga will continue n naruto will seal madara mayb with the help of other and i think the nine tail chakra plays an important role in hashirama power of creating a forest n pollen...Do u rembr when naruto used the nine tail chakra for the first time n Captian Yamoto wood reacted...,,,so i still believe that only naruto can defeat madara+hashirama..
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oh crap he is old. how can a 90-100 year old geezer fight at kage level? i know this is manga fantasy and all but come on!!!!
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THIS CHAPTER IS PROOF THAT TOBI IS IZUNA UCHIHA...WHY DO KABUTO KEEP MENTIONING MADARA THIS AND HASHIRAMA THAT BUT NEVER MENTIONS IZUNA...OR WHY DID KABUTO EDO EVEYONE AND THEIR BOOKBAGS EXCEPT IZUNA...BECAUSE IZUNA/TOBI IS ALIVE...
FOR ALL THOSE CRYING ABOUT KABUTO NOT EDO TENSEING DANZOU, KABUTO ISNT STUPID ENOUGH TO RESSURECT DANZOU JUST SO HE CAN IZANAGI HIS WAY OUT OF KABUTOS CONTROL AND POSE A THREAT TO TOBI AND KABUTO...TOBI MADE SASUKE FIGHT/KILL DANZOU FOR A REASON CAUSE DANZOU WOULD HAVE MURDERED TOBI...PLUS TOBI CAN ONLY USE IZANAGI ONCE AT A TIME DANZOU HAD 10 TO 20 IZANAGIS
STAY TUNED FOR MY UNDENIABLE THEORY ABOUT WHY TOBI IS IZUNA
-TOBI
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to vurupt
and i think madara will pawn current naruto if he fights him alone, even with bees help madara has the adventage with the rinnegan and mokuton
madara can absorb taled beast bombs and control kyubi either with sharingan or mokututonm end of the story
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http://narutoverse.org/Naruto/510/12/
PROOF THAT TOBI IS IZUNA...
ALSO TOBI IS IZUNA AND THOSE WRINKLES AROUND HIS EYE IS WEAR AND TEAR ON HIS EYE SOCKET FROM KEEP SWITCHING SHARRINGANS AND TESTING THEM AND USING IZANAGI AND REPLACING THEM
-TOBI
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@ krish 62
i agree - madara shouldn't be defeated
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At 67 .
It would be only logical to assume , that Tobi is Izuna.
Izuna gave up hes eyes...Faked hes death.
Played in the shadows , collected sharingans for hes use.
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Tobi Is The White Zetsu And The Black Zetsu Combined With The Experiments On The 2 Uchihas: Uchiha Izuna And Second I Dont Know.
Remember> When Tobi Fights Naruto And Others He Have a Young Happy Smile Voice , But When He Talks To Sasuke About Itachi He Has a Normal High Tone Of Voice..
What Do Ya Think? Its Like White @ Black Zetsu Voices >> Black's zetsu voice are hard tone and white zetsu voice are light happy tone.
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U guys, who said that the Manga will not take a complete switch towards Sasuke? I mean, what IF he actually listens to Itachi whilst Naruto would be captured and the Kages are beaten by their resp. opponents? Then it would be Sasuke vs Tobi, Madara and so on.
Anyhow, I do not think that they are going to fight each other. Instead he will ask Sasuke to end Edo Tensei so that his soul can rest in peace.
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epic fail?
if Itachi and Sasuke would really cross paths would you think they have seen eah other from afar.
really???, the of best sharigan users would not see each other until their side by side.
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I think,we r about to see a time skip with itach+saskgay.Sasuke will still want to fight naruto but his motives have changed due to meeting itach and learning the truth about his clan,sasuke will fight naruto for sport after dealing with kabuto for having his brother on the battle field,and who knows it could be sasuke dad he is looking at in the forest.
In the end naruto and sasuke will fight for fun because naruto said (we talk with our fist sasuke)sasuke will end up helping naruto defeat dude behind the mask sasuke is the only one who seen his face.well kabuto knows as well.
as I said before it will be naruto vs tobi sasuke vs madara kakshi vs kabuto team 7.
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@60
"But current Edo Madara is stronger than both of them combined."
lol? sorry but this Edo madara" is the combinition of them!
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my guess is sasuke will get cut of by the konaha 11 while he's following itachi. sasuke will fight for his attention but not get it before getting intercepted by the konaha 11.
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62 undefeated??? he is powerful and all but did you not just read the manga, top dog is Hashirama then madara, Kabuto havent even witness the first power himself, infact there is only 2 being that are out that can tell you what really happen during the hashirama/madara fight, first being madara himself, second being the kyubbi, naruto could learn what happen fast by Kurama transferring his memeory to him.
60 your prediction is a little onesided, sasuke is not just going to take out Madara like that your forgetting about his Rinnegan, Madara is barely getting a challenge from the kages, but talk-no-jutsu between them 2 would be nice, tobi is being pushed back to the point he is going have to retreat soon, so bought time sasuke meet up with itachi and talk, and if he do head toward the kages Naruto/Tobi fight is going to be done, really what would be more fitting is if Naruto show up to sasuke/madara fight and intercept madara fatal attack to sasuke when he is weaken, I somewhat wanna see naruto go against madara, turn into the kyubbi and have madara fight the power he once controlled like it was his play thing, it would definitely surprise him to see naruto use the kybbi to that extent,
Madara making forest isnt nothing, it will take a normal size tall beast bomb to wipe it out,
he might say that the true test is right before him testing his powers out on sasuke/naruto instead
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after this chapter i feel like i should read and watch the hiruzen vs orochimaru battle at the chunin exams again. either something's not right, or hiruzen is an abosolute beast, even in old age. but i've always felt something strange about this battle and kabuto's confirmation of hashirama's power only makes me question it more.
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there was almost as much ligitimate pages in this chapter as there were numbers of days i waited for it to come out LOL
damn flash backs :P
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@ 74 sorry made a typo lol. :)
-Rikudo mode game
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I don't even think itachi will stop to talk with sauske. even if he does, i think he will say he has left you into naruto's hands. sauske will get surprised by that and will get get angry. So maybe even though itachi doesn't want to fight sauske, sauske will attack itachi out of anger. itachi vs sauske match 2 will start.
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@ 76
Your right.
Obviously Kages arent much of a challenge to Madara.
Madara will choose Naruto or Sasuke to play with.
Also I understanded from the previous chapter , that Kurama stated something about that their current form can be perfected.
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awesome chapter i dont care how long it was it atleast answered questions even if they were irrelevent like who the 1st tsuchikage was and what was in madaras shirt(though that was a no brainer)which brings me to believe that the scroll that suigetsu found was the intel that danzo wanted in regards to his right eye and arm
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ITACHI WILL JUST INTENTIONALLY MAKE SASUKE MADDER AND TALK ABOUT HOW NARUTO HAS SURPASSED SASUKE LONG AGO AND HOW ITS NO WAY HE WILL WIN AGAINST NARUTO AND HOW HE WONT FIGHT SASUKE BECAUSE HE HAS ALREADY PUT HIS FAITH IN NARUTO...SASUKE WILL WANT TO ERASE EVERY PARTICLE OF NARUTO....
MAYBE ITACHI WILL KEEP ON TRACK TO HIS DESTINATION AND WHEN SASUKE TRIES TO STOP HIM AN ITACHI SHADOW CLONE WILL EMERGE FROM THE BUSHES...
THEN HE WILL TELL SASUKE TO COME TO HIM AFTER HIS CONFRONTATION WITH NARUTO AND IF HE SURVIVES ITACHI WILL BE WAITING FOR HIM FOR THEIR FINAL BOUT
ON ANOTHER NOTE I THINK ITACHI WILL FIGHT KABUTO CATCH HIM IN A GENGUTSU TO RELEASE THE EDO TENSEIS BUT B4 ITACHI KILLS KABUTO OROCHIMARU WILL APPEARS IN A REALM INSIDE KABUTO AND NEGATE THE GENGUTSU AND KABUTO WILL ESCAPE AND SURVIVE
-TOBI
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DANZOU IS A THREAT TO TOBI AND KABUTO AS AN EDO BECAUSE OF HIS IZANAGI TECHNIQUE, HIS KNOWLEDGE OF NINJUTSU, AND SHISUIS EYE(WHICH HE CAN EFFORTLESSLY USE TO FORCE KABUTO INTO RELEASING THE TECHNIQUE OF HIS OWN FREE WILL)
I ACTUALLY WANTED DANZOU TO REMAIN HOKAGE A LIL LONGER
TO STURR THINGS UP
-TOBI
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@ 74
their combination doesnt have to be x + x.
It can be x times x :).
Meaking this edo stronger than them seperated.
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AFTER TALKING WITH ITACHI....ITS GONNA BE SASUKE AND NARUTO VERSES TOBI AND THE SECRETS HE HAVE UP HIS SLEEVE
TOBI WILL BE BACKED INTO A CORNER THEN KABUTO WILL SUMMON HASHIMADARA THERE TO GAIN BACK TOBIS TRUST THEN IT WILL BE TOBI AND MADARA VS SASUKE AND NARUTO THEN AFTER A LIL ACTION AND BEING IMPRESSED MADARA WILL SAY IM BORED TIME TO RETREAT BROTHER WE NEED TO TALK THEN TOBI WILL TIMESPACE THEM OUTTA THERE...
SASUKE WILL LEAVE NARUTO ON A GOOD BUT CONFUSING NOTE AND GO TO FACE ITACHI
THEN ITS GONNA BE KABUTO WITH OROCHI IN HIS MIND, TOBI,
AND SUPER MADARA(WHICH IS AT THE SAME TIME LEVERAGE ON TOBI)
YAMATOS WILL WILL TAKE OVER THOSE HASHIRAMA CELLS FLOWER LOTUS THING AFTER A YAMATO FLASHBACK, HE WILL OBTAIN THE WHITE ZETSU SUMMON JUTSU AND STRONGER MOKUTON(HE DOES NEED A POWER UP TO BE NARUTOS CAPTAIN NOW).
-TOBI
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My theories..
-Sasuke put's Itachi to rest by talking; then kills Kabutomaru, upon finding out he's the one who's controlling the Edo jutsu.
-Naruto finds out who the Masked Man really is.
-The Five Kage's continue their fight until either Naruto and Killer Bee defeats OR gets separated from the Masked Man.
-Konoha 11 will intercept the fight of either NARUTO or SASUKE
..Any arguments?
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sasuke seeing itachi...we knew it was going to happen but i think i know how its gonna go down. there is gonna be some talk and questions(hopefully answered)but i dont think any of it will be about naruto and returning to the village. there might be a little round 2 with them where sasuke becomes the true heir to uchiha and itatchi gives sasuke the totsuka and mirror(imo sasuke should already have these since he has itachis eyes)but im hoping there will be an off page scheme between them that we will see in a flashback later on about betraying tobi.oh and since sasuke does not have any sealing jutsu that we know of he cant kill or seal itachi so he will relieve itachi soul maybe by forgiving him and he will move on.and he will follow itachis motives and stop the edo tensei. he will kill kabuto in an epic battle learning more stuff about why kabuto and orochimaru want him so bad.then after that seal(with the totsuka sword itatchi gives him) madara at the battle then leaving without a word to the 5 kages.kishi should do just sasuke chaps for awhile give naruto a break.he has done it b4.im not saying im a sasuke fan,because i like the whole naruto series .
ps please comment on this post ive put alot of thought in this and would like to hear your responses and predictions you may have.
pss did any body notice in the chapter that madaras new susanoo form has legs and can walk and jump i thought susanoo wasnt suppose to move
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http://narutoverse.org/Naruto/575/10/
HINT THAT MADARA MOST LIKELY DESTROYED UZUMAKI VILLAGE
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KABUTO HAD IT PERFECT HE AINT HAVE TO WASTE EDO-NAGATO AND EDO-ITACHI IN THE WAR...THEY WERE SUPPOSE TO BE HIS PERSONAL GUARDS, WITH HASHI-MADARA ONLY BEING USED IF THE OTHER 2 WERE DEFEATED...IF WORST CAME TO WORST HE WAS SUPPOSE TO USE ITACHI IF THINGS GOT BAD WITH SASUKE, NAGATO IF THINGS GOT BAD WITH NARUTO, AND HASHI-MADARA IF THINGS GOT BAD WITH TOBI...
BUT THE NEW AKATSUKI WAS SUPPOSE TO BE KABUTO WITH THOSE 3 EDO'S ON HIS UTILITY BELT, AND TOBI WITH THOSE EDO 6 PATHS OF TOBI JINCHURIKIS ON HIS UTILITY BELT(MAYB IN A SPACETIME REALM WAITING TO BE NEEDED)...THEY WOULD HAVE GOT THE JOBS DONE
KABUTO HAD A MANGEKYOU SHARRINGAN USER, A RINNEGAN USER, AND THE ORIGINAL OBTAINER OF THE MODERN RINNEGAN+EMS...2 SUSANOS, A GEDOU MAZOU CONTROLLER...
TOBI HAD SHARRINGAN, RINNEGAN, 6 JINCHURIKI WITH THEIR BIJUU AND SHARRINGAN AND RINNEGAN, PLUS AND ADDITIONAL BIJUU, HES IN POSSESION OF THE GEDO MAZOU, ZETSU(WHOLE) PLUS HASHIRAMA LIFE FLOWER/CELLS
IN REAL NARUTO WORLD LIFE (THE RATED R VERSION) THE SHINOBIS LOST THE WAR B4 IT STARTED
-TOBI
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http://narutoverse.org/Naruto/575/02-03/
HOW HASHIRAMA TOOK THE KYUBI FROM MADARA
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NEXT CHAPTER WILL BE A REPEAT OF WAT HAPPEN WHEN ITACHI AND KISAME FIRST CAME TO KONOHA TO TAKE NARUTO...ITACHI IS GONNA BRUSH SASUKE OFF LIKE HE DOESNT CARE CAUSE HE HAS SOMETHING TO DO SASUKE WILL ATTACK HIM IN A CRY FOR ATTENTION ITACHI GONNA IMMEDIATELY DEFEAT HIM AGAIN TELL HIM HES ANNOYING AND HOW NARUTO IS THE SHINOBI HE HOPED FOR SASUKE TO BE SASUKE WILL ATTACK AND FINALLY DESTROY THE CLONE, SASUKE WILL GO TO FIGHT NARUTO TO BECOME STRONGER TO FIGHT ITACHI...
OR ITACHI WILL JUST KEEP RUNNING AND LEAD SASUKE TO KABUTO
-TOBI
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no sasuke is not going allow itachi to get away from him so easily, if he going to get away from him he is going have to work for it, konaha 11 is not the only one headed towards naruto so if sasuke get stop show will itachi, (everybody else still think itachi is a enemy)
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I think as a possibility itachi will pass sasuke without acknowledging him and sasuke will just think he's seeing things and ignore the actually that its his brother. Or since sasuke is so deranged now he'll try to fight his brother.
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There we are. A brief glimpse into Wood Release's power. There are yet destructive powers about Wood Release to be seen.
Susanoo has legs? Weird.
And why is Hashirama's face always being used as an implant? Why the face? Doesn't look versatile at all, and it's creepy.
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Has anyone of you noticed Edo Madara's eyes in this chapter?
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Matze
I am a bit disappointed! the power(-balance) between some characters is ...i would say...stupid!
first of all...in the early manga it was said that the next generation will surpass the previous one. i know that at least only 10-20% of all shinobi make it.but i dont like the thought that there were so many godlike shinobis in the past. when i start reading this manga i thought that minato (4.hokage) were the best among the hokages! but now...hashirama becomes more and more overpowered.even stronger than madara!
madara lost on purpose??? how is it possible when hashirama is stronger than him? ok i know that he (madara) took some dna of hashirama. but then it was his only option. otherwise madara isn’t half as smart as he act.
there are so many things I don’t get!
Why is white zetsu looking so young? He also act like a stupid little child…sometimes!
Black Zetsu is the land itself! And he has the background about many jutsus. AND has the abiltiy to record fights. BUT tobis hand is made of white zetsu …”flesh”. And we knew that this is the “senju” dna. Or am I wrong? And now it seems that both of them were easily beaten by some random skilled ninjas aaaah and I know that zetsu is a non fighting type. But tobi want him to fight a whole army and that without kabutos upgrade! WHHHYYYYY?
I hope you understand what I want to say… xD
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G'day!
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It's safety to say that Hashirama Senju and Madara Uchiha were equal in battle powers but after they fought in Valley of the End Hashirama won. If he was more stronger than Madara was then how can he survived fighting him for many times? How can Madara manage to hurt him so bad than anyone couldn't? That's why I concluded that TES and TYS were similar to Hashirama and Madara in equal powers. Kish tend to create two most powerful clans must be equal power. According to Naruto and Sasuke will be equal power because he focus on Naruto's and Sasuke's develop in series.
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@meowmeow
lots of kewl things this chapter, we know know that Madara gained rinnegan by him self (as he said right before he's dead), and the implant was done by Kabuto, wich is merely a development from the one Danzo was using.
seems Tobi is using a hashirama zetsu clone as created by zetsu to contains both types of chakra(not veryfied), seems a rather week result to be honest, either way the puzzle begins to make more sense, but we realy need more info on the whole nagato and the rinnegan thing.
either way Madara seems incredible strong whit the implant, one thing thats sorta funny is most of hes strengt atm, is hashiramas hehehe, im wondering who gets the honor of stopping him.
i gotta add i personaly think, the whole mask thing is been drawn to faar, most of us atm have come to a point where we cant be bothered thinking about that anymore, wich is sorta sad i hope he reveals him soon.
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@76 question is will Tobi retreat, or will the real Tobi join the battlefield(i believe that hes a clone atm)
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Why has Gaaras sand stopped working, it was able to stop attacks without Gaara doing anything, but they got swotted out of the sky without the sand reacting.
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No wonder Madara is angry he is no longer going to be able to go topless on the beach.
Well this is the 4th face of the first hokage (his original, the battle with the 3rd, on the plant/flower and now on madara.
We all know that Madara found the first hokage annoying, but didn't anybody tell him not to let him get on his tits!
If he confesses for his sins and bad deeds and gets everything off his chest will that remove the first hokage?
I suppose he was lucky as to which body part grew on his chest, it could have been alot more embrassing if it was a different part. (For people who start saying it was the dna from their battle, it would have been easier to remopve dna from the arms or legs that the face).
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tobi is madara. trust me
-narutogenius
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Guys, don't be surprised id you these titles for the future chapters:
1.) Will Of Wimd
2.) Will Of Lightning
3.) Will Of Water
4.) Will Of Fire
hehe!
I think every kage will have their own highlights/flashbacks in the upcoming chapters. Although some of us have already seen a highlight of Gaara in his battle against his father.
What's up Reiji-kun.
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Sasuke freak Bahamas
firstly awesome chapter kishi left me jawdroppin for more.Five kages against edo madara still aint enough to make it worst he is madara+hashirama combined.I give onoki props for steppin up but he alone cant defeat this combination he couldnt even defeat madara alone so dont expect him to defeat this combination of the top two legendary powerhouses.sasuke n itachi hmmm might talk might not as seen in the pic where itachi doesnt even stop even if he sensed sasuke. Sasuke is the key to something big seein tobi wants to fuse him with the gedo statue,kabuto wants him for idk what n orochimaru wanted his body n sharingan.that scroll that suigetsu has, my guess is a key to gainin more power in some way by tellin him how to achieve the rinnegan or So6p cuz orochimaru wanted an uchiha for his experiments.naruto n sasuke in my opinion is the only duo who can come close to or defeat madara/hashirama duo.sasuke is the only uchiha left who can surpass madara, he mightnt be feared like madara but could become the most powerful uchiha in history surpassin madara while naruto will surpass all the previous hokages.if sasuke was to be fused with the gedo statue n some how gets hashirama cells then he might become close to a living S06p.The new s06p is only between sasuke n naruto the best candidates for the fusion if you read the manga n understand it people u would agree with me,madara/hashirama is still incomplete without bijuus plus he is dead,tobi needs sasuke to fuse with the gedo statue for some reason n kabuto needs sasuke as well n bijuus n hashirama cells.
@76 with you on that
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Guys, don't be surprised if the future chapters are gonna be titled as follows:
1.) Will Of Wind
2.) Will Of Laghtning
3.) Will Of Water
4.) Will Of Fire
hehe!
I think all of the kage will have their own highlights/flashbacks in this battle/war. This chapter, we saw Oonoki's. We have also seen Gaara's highlights in his fight against his father.
Hey Reiji-kun, where are you?
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I wanna see rematch between Itachi and Sasuke but I'm also not closing my doors to a possibility that Itachi will no longer fight Sasuke because he already entrusted that part to Naruto.
Hey Reiji-kun, are you still training in Bunutangakure?
When are you going to Taliptipgakure?
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i know this is random but you know how black and white zetsu are halves, well what if tobi is another black and white zetsu but madara is the black and hashirama is the white, but not only that but tobi might have two faces one madara and one hashirama
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Everyone who keeps saying after kabuto is this and that. The only way Itachi will go away is when his mission is accomplished. That is trying to cast a genjustu on kabuto and have him release all the edos or seal him. Even is sasuke is convinced by Itachi to go back to the light, his soul hasn't completed its mission. Ok, here's an example of DNA and not procreation. Take a newborn babys stem cells from the placenta. Inject it into a personwith a damaged affected area. What happens? The affected area may regrow. It may not. That is DNA integration. Procreation, if you do not know what that is, then go look it up. There is a big difference between madara and the 1st dna injected in him. Hashiramas DNA is probably some of the strongest to ever have control over. Danzou didn't turn into the 1st, he was being turned into a tree because his chakra levels were depleted. 59 out of 60 babies that were infused with the 1sts dna died. They did not turn into the 1st. Only yamato survived and was able to use wood release at a weaker extent. Same goes for kabuto with orochimarus dna and with madara and the 1st dna.
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Everyone who keeps saying after kabuto is this and that. The only way Itachi will go away is when his mission is accomplished. That is trying to cast a genjustu on kabuto and have him release all the edos or seal him. Even is sasuke is convinced by Itachi to go back to the light, his soul hasn't completed its mission. Ok, here's an example of DNA and not procreation. Take a newborn babys stem cells from the placenta. Inject it into a personwith a damaged affected area. What happens? The affected area may regrow. It may not. That is DNA integration. Procreation, if you do not know what that is, then go look it up. There is a big difference between madara and the 1st dna injected in him. Hashiramas DNA is probably some of the strongest to ever have control over. Danzou didn't turn into the 1st, he was being turned into a tree because his chakra levels were depleted. 59 out of 60 babies that were infused with the 1sts dna died. They did not turn into the 1st. Only yamato survived and was able to use wood release at a weaker extent. Same goes for kabuto with orochimarus dna and with madara and the 1st dna.
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Tobi is deff izuna...member when tobi approached sasuke n was like i kno the truth about itachi uchiha... Who else wud kno so much bout itachi besides IZUNA #ZING
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why the hell doesnt anyone use that forbidden jutsu scroll that was in konoha at the starting of the naruto series?! ppl these days spam forbidden techniques like nothing and im pretty sure the secrets to a lot of jutsu are in that scroll, including ftg...
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top 100 :)
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tobi has hashiramas face and has madaras face on his chest
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this post will be mostly assumptions, so bear with me. tobi is well informed with madara's history, and besides pretending to be madara, he seems to be truthful in anything else madara related. saying that, the battle in the valley of the end is officailly confirmed. Status, hashirama victory, madara lost, but survived and obtained 1st dna. however, that wasn't his current goal. a jealous madara, began going around to the 4 other great nations, and tested his power on all the other 1st kages. After hashirama had distributed tailed beasts to other nations, even though he was officailly defected from the leaf, he pretended to still represent the leaf and demanded obedience from the other naitons. he was successful in killing all the first kages, except hashirama, during this time. Theres a definately symbolism with hashi to TYS and madara to TES. basically everything relevent to the events in the story begins with them.
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@105 thats what i was thinking, that every kage would have flashbacks, but now that i think about it, tsnade, gaara, and A we all know much about and have a pretty good character history on them. if kishi repeated flashbacks it would get ppl angry and i think kishi has made enough side stories for these ppl except mei, which may need a flashback
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tobi is motoi lolz
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@ 96 Genin of the fourth ninja war
Yeah what about it!?! To me it look like on page one he had his sharingan active & then page 7 he had his rinnegan active as well as he did in page 14. Pages 10 & 11 were just flashbacks. But was it something I missed?
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To all !!
Its not itachi for sure look at the bandage of his foot in page 14 if you look at it then try to look in manga 549 page 4 you could say its not the same!! hahha try it BLOG
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MY guesss isss Sasuke is most likely going to search for kabuto and kill him bcuz of reviving itachi and using him for the war soo im guessing itachi is going to keep sasuke updated about everything thats happened so far when they talk lol and i think itachi will finally rest in peace after he has fought and/or talked with sasuke and just fade away like the other edo tenseis did in the beginning of the war!! && is it just me or did sasuke pull out his sword right before he jumped into the forest?? lol.. So it comes dwn to::
Naruto vs Tobi
Sasuke vs kabuto
Madara vs 5 kages
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this chapter was epic
at least we know what is on madaras chest...hashiramas face...lol
dont know how the hell hashirama died but it should be
something greater than hashiramas power or simple betrayel it was
by...
his son maybe????
whoever it was or is
hashirama was more powerfull than anyone even he beat madara
so how he died young
should be hell of story...
or madara came back in his prime like now to get revenge and kill first
cant wait but story is getting closer each chapter to reserved battle of decade...
hashirama vs madara
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@113
good point, i believe Naruto is about the only one who can master them all, and have the body to do it etc...
perhaps after the war, or when he becomes to hokage.
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To everyone don't sleep Orochimaru. We know from the beginning his mission was to achieve immortality, so don't be surprised if he figured something out. Remember that his chakra lives on in Kabuto not just his dead flesh. Maybe he was not completely sealed. Maybe I'm just pissed because Oro was my favorite character. Let's face it, he was thinking on a another level than almost everyone else.
On another note if Kabuto had control over Edo Itachi why didn't he make Itachi unseal Oro. Assuming he could.
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so this series told us that the 1st hokage is more stronger than Madara,and the body is more powerful than the eye., so Naruto is said to be a descendant of the 1st and Sasuke is from Madara.,now we know what will be the result of Naruto-Sasuke fight...Sasuke is destined to lose... anyone agree?
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excited more about sasuke and itachi
-philippines
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finally sasuke meet itachi after suck long time,next chapter will be very very interesting & amazing
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madara+hashirama seems unbeatable and i think even sasuke dont stand chance against him
but naruto can
why? ask yourself coz whatever happen now naruto is way too stronger than sasuke
and thats why that scroll of orochimaru is gonna make sasuke stronger to level of naruto
my prediction:
1. naruto will fight tobi but after seeing everyone
supporting naruto tobi will retreate...
2. naruto will head towards madara
3. tobi will go to see kabuto
4. sasuke and itachi fights and itachi will die and
sasuke will get more revengefull than enything
and will loose control of himself
i want this to happen :D
5. after itachi diying there is no one to stop kabuto
6. someone of five kages will die before naruto and
naruto also get mad at madara and fight him
7. sasuke will definately get scroll and go after kabuto
dont know but scroll should have recipee that
contains oro's dna
8. then tobi will do something experiment on sasuke
like
sasuke + hashirama dna + oros'dna and that should
make sasuke strongest person alive
like
power of wood, power of rinegan + sharingan and plus
oros twisted resipee ;)
9. in defeating madara naruto should get power of wood
as i think he is faster than minato now he dont need
ftg tech
10. and then the fight between
sasuke X naruto
epic.......
what you guys think...
and dont know why i think kyubi will get extracted from naruto and will revive jubi and naruto will become so6p himself to stop jubi
finger crossed :D
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to ME
lol naruto doesnt stand a chance against madar+hashirama
even if he was to cooperate with sasuke the results would be the same
plus, madara can control kyubi either with the eyes or with mokuton,
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to 125
not sure, since oro represented also the body as he sought inmortality and transfeing himeself from body to body and lost against itachi and sasukes eyes
then agaon, sasuke has been more about body than eyes
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so, orchimaru had created a new Edu Tensai. I am unable to understand how sasuke beat him.
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I guess Itachi will ignore Sasuke, (Why) It's because when Naruto ask Itachi if he can go and meet Sasuke and Itachi replied to Naruto that "NO" " I already tried to do everything alone and Failed" "This time... I leave it to my comrades" " I leave Sasuke to you!"
http://www.mangaday.com/Naruto/552/11/
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sasuke is going to meet with shisui
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@60
DUDE HOW COULD U SAY THAT THIS EDO MADARA IS STRONGER THAN PRIME MADARA+HASIRAMA?lol
GOOD JOKE YTHOUGH I DOUBT HE CAN EVEN DEFET A EDO HASHIRAMA, WELL COME TO THINK ABOUT IT
1)HASHIRAMA DEFEATED KYUBI+MADARA=CURRENT NARUTO OR CURRENT MADARA
U THINK CURRENT MADARA COULD DEFEAT SAGE+KYBI NARUTO? YES BUT CHANCES WOULD BE 40%
2)HE'S POWER IS COMPARABLE 2 SO6Pand CONSIDERED AS A MYTH
AGAIN ONE MORE QUESTION NO U THINK MADARA CAN CONTROL WOOD STYLE AS GOOD AS HASHIRAMA OR KNOW WOOD STYLE DIRTIEST ND DANGEROUS SECRET JUTSU AS GOD AS HASHIRAMA?
HASHIRAM FTW,lol
@92
HAHAHAHAHAHH,TAT WAS HILARIOUS, SASUKE CRYING ND RUNNING 2 GET ITACHI ATTENTION AGAIN
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I know who Tobi is, there is/was only one other Uchiha as gifted as Madara, his little brother. When he gave Madara his eyes, Madara gave his little brother his own eyes. Madara went on to fight and gain Hashiramas power while his little brother had completely disappeared from the story... why? To make everyone think he was dead. Nagato got the Rinnegan eyes because Tobi gave his EMS eyes to Nagato which triggered the evolution to the Rinnegan. How else would he recognize Izanagi which Danzo was using? I mean who else would know how to upgrade to rinnegan eyes except the little brother of the "2nd Sage of Six Paths?" That's what he meant when he told Konan that they were his eyes to start with, he simply needed the uzumaki/ senju descandants power of the body. I mean think about it, the 9 tails recognized him, Madara knew from the start who it must be behind the war and knew he was going for the moons eye plan. It all makes sense really...
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I ALSO KNOW WHO TOBI IS!
HE IS... a good boy
:)
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@129
naruto stands a chance against madara+hashirama
about that mokuton
naruto can destroy it easily
and
madara can create it easily
so obvious it is based on chakra by which naruto has upper hand and not only stands chance but also only one contender against madara + hashirama
and about controlling kyubi inside naruto is not possible
even he gets naruto in genjetsu kyubi will always there to free naruto from it...
naruto only needs sealing tech to seal him...
@dennis 132
itachi said it but now
naruto is the one who is doing it all by himself and saying to control sasuke is just too much...
itachi should fight sasuke and slow him down till naruto gets everything under control
this weeks chapter will decide who is gonna fight who
and i just cant wait...
:(
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naruto's kyuubi chakra cloak life energy thing will just make the mokuton grow faster and stronger right? haha too bad naruto
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@paul 138
nice 1
didnt thought about it lol...
it is triky who will have control of it
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hi
i have a theory
uchiha + senju = tes or rinnegan
uzumaki = tys or life/body
so uchiha + senju + uzumaki = sage of six paths ( a.k.a god of naruto world)
and1nz
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nobody laughed at my toilet jokes Q_Q
i feel like a really sad panda right now.
xD.
@0verl0rd 95
Its the face, because than he can sing trolololololololololololololololololololololololololol.
:).
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@meowmeow 42
LOL...haha..or even worse! naruto with a sasuke on his chest saying "usuraton tachi"..wkwkwkwk...
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its just shit because hashirama get so much praise as being this almighty ninja, kabuto even mentions something about their not being any ninja like the first hokage anymore, but sarutobi fought against the 1st 2nd and orochimaru at the same time and managed to seal 2 and a half of their souls... feels like the power has not been balanced properly
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supposing that on his deathbed after acquiring the rinnegan, madara used izangi and his and hashiramas dna to create zetsu. then after he died tobi/izuna/whoever got the rinnegan and passed it on to nagato. and tobi/izuna/whoever has been using zetsu parts to stay alive.
tobi is a good boy because thats what he was when zetsu was created. but who is he really?
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damm, the anime was interesting.
did any of you find the madara voice in kisame his memory, the same as tobi, or slightly different?
His right side was in bandages (feet and hands), his left side wasnt (chest was though).
Kisame had that cipher corps woman hitting on him haha :).
This weeks anime and manga were really great.
The kisame scene, where he commits suicide with the sharks, to stop the info from getting into enemies hands, was super touching in the manga, but in the anime as well.
Wanting to live in a world without lies and never getting there. He protected it though.
@ zevro
lol.
lets not give kishi ideas ok, or we will see these shinobi with others their face on their chest :).
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@2 , haha
Sick Kabuto must have violated Edo Madara in many possible ways when he was not awakened to put the 1st
Hokages genes in.
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Edo Madara may be unfazed but credit to the Kages .
They have withstood all the Mangekyou Sharingan and Mokuton can throw at them and they are still standing.
Maybe it is like that Rocky 4 movie . After taking 1001 punches to the head , he finally manages to land that one punch that brings down that giant russian boxer.
The Kages need that lucky punch .
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Too bad Edo Tensei has so many inconsistencies in the manga. Sometimes when they get damaged at some point, they get reconstituted body & clothes. Like when Madara plunges the meteor onto himself. And now for some reason only his body seem to recover, but not the clothes (so far we can tell).
And how is it possible for an Edo to be upgraded to a situation better then at the point of death. The upgrade should be rejected by the Edo system, at least when its being reconstituted after a first destruction.
And why isnt Edo Madara (+Hashirama) not Edo Hashirama (+Madara)? The upgraded Edo contains both DNA of Hashirama & Madara, how can an Edo Tech make the distinction whose DNA is the boss? Edo tech just uses some amount of blood.
And why can a destroyed Edo body recover all of its original chakra. IRL Laws of energy conservation don't allow creation stuff from nothingness. Ofc this is not IRL so this argument is a bit iffy.
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@ 143
i dont think orochimaru their edo had max power.
2nd hokage didnt do spacetime.
1st hokage didnt do any flower world attack.
@ 144
i do believe this as well.
The part that madara has created a being before he died.
Not zetsu though.
Theory (continuation from tobi is nobody from a month or so ago, ill check if i can link exact week):
I believe madara created tobi with his rinnegan.
His command was to put the rinnegan in nagato, so nagato could revive madara.
Tobi has no real identity, he is nobody.
He is a fake madara and he is no hashirama either.
Unlike the sage and his 9 bijou, madara hasnt acknowledged tobi the same way.
Just like lot of jinchuriki didnt get acknowledged, Tobi hasnt been acknowledged either.
One of the few things that make tobi a bit different from madara, is that he cuts of his hair. It doesnt really give him a real identity though.
I believe zetsu to be an experiment of tobi, that is why zetsu is so loyal to tobi.
Zetsu can exchange memory with tobi, because of them sharing powers.
A bit similar to shadow clones, but different.
Tobi didnt obey madara his command in the end though and went to work for himself.
Thats why he was so scared when madara was summoned by kabuto, because he couldnt take him on at that time.
So he went to get the rinnegan.
Izuna is dead.
TES is dead.
TYS is dead.
The sage of the six paths is dead.
Shisui is dead.
Obito is dead.
Kagami is dead.
Sakura is dead (aah damm, not true).
Tobi has no identity, that is why he wears a mask, not to hide his identity.
He is faceless (not literally btw).
The mask shows his powers.
Kurama mask (9 tails mask vs minato).
lost contact vs minato.
Swirly mask, which shows the spacetime power.
Rinnegan with tomoe mask, which shows rinnegan in one eye and the sharingan in the other.
FUCK YES!!
eat dust, tes, izuna, shisui, obito etc. xD.
Tobi had to wait with the whole taking kurama, because uzumaki mito was alive.
When she died and kurama was sealed in kushina, he had to wait till she gave birth, so the seal would be weakened.
/VICTORY DANCE IN ADVANCE
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Itachi was probably retracing his steps to a known hideout of the Akatsuki which he must have known Tobi
kept his secrets .
He must have had some suspicions that Tobi was waging the war & the one using the Edo jutsu was someone operating in or near the hideout.
It must be unfortunate to be bumping into Sasuke as he had clearly wanted Naruto to be the one doing the confrontation and saving his brother from the darkness.
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Hey guys! I don't know if I'm right or not but I can't really see any place in the anime where they could put in any fillers before the war itself starts, so I was thinking a little. The anime isn't really too far from the manga now, so they either put in some fillers (which I don't really see any place where they could do that) or it is really close to the end.
If there won't be any fillers until the end, then based on my calculations, the manga will end in about 30-40 chapters at maximum.
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Is it possible that that Madara from the anime to be the real one, revived with the rinnegan and upgraded by Orochimaru then somehow he died and kabuto used edo tensei to bring him back?And maybe before his death he somehow created Tobi?
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a while ago (month or so), when i posted my tobi is nobody theory, someone responded with some science theory about a cat in a box :).
I forgot the name of that person, but if you read this, maybe you can tell me about how long ago that was.
It will be easier for me to retrack the theory.
(stupid messy meow, save the damm things up you nab!! :P).
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haha finaly.. the uchiha Brothers met...
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the cat in the black box was the Schrödinger's cat experiment btw.
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@148, madara had hashiramas dna before he died. He acquired it at the valley battle where madara supposedly died. That's how madara awakened the rinnengan. And you are trying to dissect a fictional magna. So whatever "law" that happen in real life do not pertain to the magna. Why even try to bring actual logic. This is entertainment just like the movies are. Without all the new technology, we would see the flat flying superman like the black and white days. Hahahaha. Just enjoy the myth defying logic.
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meowmeow theories:
-Tengu and sharingan are related.
-The sage is the son of an Uzumaki and a Hyuuga.
-The byakugan and the sharingan are the same eye.
-Tobi is created by madara.
Izuna, shisui, tes, obito, kagami etc. are all dead.
-Juugo his power is a dark version of hashirama his power.
lolz :), kishi, your manga secrets are no secret anymore.
Just need to figure out what kabuto his latest triumphcard is now.
He had one besides madara.
Its probably what is on the scroll suigetsu found, but wouldnt that be a bit messy to leave it there all in the open?
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@ 51 ur just a sasuke lovver , to be honest i dnt know what to expect from kishi anymore
@ all can som1 plz tell me wat TES AND TYS means
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Itachi and Sasuke meeting pt.1
Sasuke: Itachi !?! WTF?!?
Itachi: can't read my, can't read my. No he can't read my POKER FACE !!!!
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@ 156
Ofc i kno that IRL stuff don't count, but what doz count are the rules set by the manga, in this case that all of Naruto-world actions should be realistic in Naruto-world. Ninjutsu (chakra + handseals), Genjutsu (chakra + eye), Taijutsu , bloodlinelimits, the 5 nature-elements ...
By analysing those, trying to predict what happened and could happen. If the author doznt hold himself to the rules of his own world then the manga start to lose the capacity to make readers live & enjoy it. It wouldnt be fun if suddenly a space alien would land and start zapping everybody, would it.
My points were merely made for example to point out Hashirama's strong will. We know that implant experiments of Hashirama's DNA could cause the user to be taken over by Hashirama's DNA when they are low on chakra (Danzo fight). That there is a constant struggle between chakras.
The rules shouldnt be able to be changed mid-story, however the rules may be creatively bent around.
For example, this/next weeks manga will probably give a clue on how Zetsu was created, and how the flower-wood-style pollen-tech could be bent around into making a independent being. This can be done because very little is known about it. About the Edo-tech a lot more is known, and also it's limitations.
I'm just worried theres gonna be more breaking the rules rather than bending them.
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Continueing some theories.
The sage had byakugan, under influence of the juubi his hatred, this turned into sharingan.
@princlenny
TES=The Elder Son (of the sage of the six paths).
TYS-The Younger Son (of the sage of the six paths).
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Mei:This Madara guy might be evil but he's hot.
Tsunade to Mei:No!. The Rai kage is way hotter just take a look at his chest.
Madara:Hey look at my six pack :D
Oh Yeah, well take a look at this *pulls up shit and 1st hokages face pops out* XD
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Itachi and Sasuke meeting pt.2
Sasuke looks up like ''i know that n*gga"
Sasuke:WHAT THE
Itachi: Hi :3(passes by)
ME: -_-
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only naruto's wind can magnify sasukes's fire. seems like the ultimate counter to wood style. many questions coming soon about what side sasuke will be on. but since he and naruto are pretty much destined to fight, if sasuke becomes good, don't be surprised if naruto goes bad. tobi's true identity may cause this.
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tobi's right hand is bandaged in the new anime episode. he also appears a little heavier, but it could just be the clothes. any ideas or clues?
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@princelenny
its "The Younger Son"(TYS), and "The Elder Son"(TES) of the "Sage Of Six Paths"(SO6P)
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i think tobi has madara's face, or atleast is able to create it. here's why
kisame recognized tobi in the present as the same person that controlled yagura. this means that the tobi's can be assumed as the same person, regardless of "hair length". ppl may ask, how do we know kisame was not lied to?
well, when kisame was told that the man in the darkness was madara, kisame thought madara was dead, and asked tobi to show himself. whats the point of asking someone to show themself if u dont know what the claimers identity looks like? kisame must have known what the original madara looked like, and tobi looked like the original madara.
so perhaps tobi has madara's body? or maybe just his face, as we have seen with madara and danzou to to hashirama.
or another theory, which i support the most, maybe the zetsu cells that tobi has (shown on his arm) allows him to morph his face into anyone he desires? his soul is nameless and has no identity, but his physical identity can be anyone! and since madara was so feared, and whose real story was covered in mystery, tobi just disguised himself as madara...
this theory can be integrated with the madara-izanagi at the point of death thing, and ur free to think that if u want.
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for this sakura/hinata/naruto pairing thing, all i have to contribute is this: the early bird gets the worm xD
hinata loved naruto first, so the early bird gets the worm if you know what i mean :D
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@Meowmeow
I don't quite understand the part about Juugo. Could you explain?
The theory about Tobi, is very plausible. By the way, the voice of the one that controlled Yagura is the exact same as Tobi's, so he was indeed Tobi.
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@158
TYS - The Younger Son (of the Sage)
TES - The Elder Son (of the Sage)
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i have a question,could anyone answer this?
---why tsunade did not able to use any ability of his senju+uzumaki? in both anime and manga all her technique shown is purely medical technique..where is her ninja technique,. her elemental affinity, she is a sannin is this means she is an adopted one not really a senju+uzumaki by blood...because in the anime konohamaru able to do the ash fire technique which was first use by asuma during his battle with hidan...remember konohamaru call asuma uncle and tsunade always call hashirama senju my granfather....
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ALL of you remember this
TOBI WILL BE SOMEONE FROM the 1st 4th hokage time
so he must be a clone of madara created to resurrect him if he had actually lost to the 1st but since madara failed the clone decided to take over as madara. but the clone was becoming weak as the host (the real madara) had died. so that's when zetsu was created.. zetsu was created to help the dying part of the clone. That why his arm where made out of zetsu. But since he was a clone he had a mission that he was told from the real madara to have the 1st hokage cell n his from a strong uzumaki boy called nagato. since that day Tobi notice what madara had plan and he wanted that power that's why he decided to form the akatsuki n kisame was one of the member that
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to PrinceLenny
everything is relativel
from your words i would say you are a naruto lover
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I think that itachi is going to tell sasuke that he is disapointed with the road he chose take and that he would have wanted him to be more like naruto, and after this he will probably say that he killed the entire clan because they were consumed by hatred because he didn't want his brother to turn up like that, sayng that he sacrificed the clan because he wanted to protect sasuke from the hatred that was passed down through the generations
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i'd lol if itachi pretended he was an illusion and just jumped past sasuke to look like he didnt even exist LOL
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TOBI cannot be IZUNA... Tobi is not even an Uchiha.., think of this, if Tobi is an Uchiha, why would he collect Sharingan? Why would he want a Rinnegan? to transplant it to himself... And he's not even a Senju... Why? because all Tobi did was transpant! Just like danzo. Just I have said from my previous posts, Orochimaru, Danzo, and Tobi wants the power of both Uchiha and Senju. Their purpose is still unclear.. Maybe they just want power to control the world or as manga readers say, they want to be the next SO6P... Danzo transplanted sharingans and Hashirama's cells because he doesn't have any connection to those clans. Tobi is transplanting sharingan (and even evolved rinnegan) to control bijuu and used zetsu(which is derived to from hashirama's cells). But the most intelligent and efficient way is Orochimaru's. that is because he created a jutsu that allows him to transfer to another body (to an Uchiha for example to gain the powers of an Uchiha) which according to Uchiha Itachi, an Uchiha body works best with a Sharingan.
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Tobi is Izuna uchiha bacause suring the Danzou and sasuke, when sasuke activated his susanoo, tobi said ' so this is sasuKe's susanoo eh' and he said not every body could awaken susanoo. And we all know that according to the story so far, those who have awaken their MS are madara, izuna, shishui, itachi and sasuke. And out of these uchihas, only madara, itachi and sasuke have been shown to have controlled the bth MS and have aweken their susanoo.it shows that tobi is either izuna or shishui .it shows that tobi is either izuna or shishui but we have seen so far that shishui is not tobi and the only MS user that wasleft who has not been shown using his susanoo was Izuna .There for izunais tobi also based on tobi's knowledge of konoha's,his level of intelligence and confidence and according to the old face that was shown when sasuke tried to burn tobi with amaterasu, and tobi's ability to know about madara moon eye plan teLls me that tobi is Izuna Uchiha
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i dont really understand how the hell the mizukage got in genjetsu
coz
it is like if you pass someone your chakra he gets out of genjetsu then three tail should have helped him
then how? was three tails not cooperating with mizukage or what
if its not like this then naruto is gonna be in bad situation coz he sucks in genjutsu...
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if tobi ends up not being izuna, then to me it shows that madara didnt care for him at all. still not sure y he would give nagato his eyes after his brother gave him his, willingly or not. and considering that nagato's heavenly resurection technique only work on the rescently dead, it poses the question did madara and tobi think this too, or is there deception in the air? it's too tough to say and no matter how you look at it, its not enough to prove one way or the other. just something to think about
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@everyone, Overlord, Me, Jasper,ZevRo, Meowmeow
Specially Meow
I’d like to share something I just found out and ask your opinion about this:
Take a look at Chapter 510 Page 1. This is happening after Konan’s attack that broke the right side of Tobi’s mask. In the previous chapter we can see Tobi’s sharingan and right side of his face comepletely.
Now, in the middle of the page, in the right, Tobi decides to retreat by doing his teleportation jutsu to evade the explosive tags. If you pay attention, when he wants to start his swirly jutsu, he raises his hand to block his right sharingan, the eye we all know is the key to his teleportation jutsu.
This is not for Konan, But for US, READERS.
WHY IS THAT?
We have seen his jutsu many times to the point, and he never did the same thing.
This is what I think. Tobi is always shown with a 3 tomoe sharingan, never with MS. Now, his mask is ripped off and we can clearly see how he does his jutsu and there must be a change to his eye. Is it a MS? If it is then it may illuminate some facts on who Tobi may be and Kishi doesn’t want us to know until the end when the curtain falls.
What is your Idea about this?
And Meow, with your theory I want to know what is your response to this. Thank you.
-Senpai
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@ 134
If edo madara is able to move on hes own will , then yes he is stronger than prime madara or prime hashirama.
since it's almost like sot6p power in this edo.
But yes naruto + kurama is mostlikely stronger.
kurama+naruto = most destructive force and evolves even stronger by each minute.
-Rikudo game.-
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@ 163 MaNgAaRt
LMAO LLS LOL @ "i know that n*gga"
2 funny!!!
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@ 177 rikudo mode
Hey man that sounds like pretty much what I've been thinkin. But I wouldn't say Tobi is Izuna 100% but I will say so far he makes the strongest candidate.
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@ 180 Senpai
Good catch! I think Tobi's mask is not just to conceal his identity but also to help him focus his Sharingan's space/time technique.
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@171
beeing a sannin does not mean she's adopted, that's just a name hanzo gave them.
she is hashirama's granddaughter indeed, but the wood element was his special technique and his alone... even none of the other senju could do it - we don't know about any other elements they use - and you don't necessarily need a element for ninjutsu! (many shinobi don't have/use one)
konohamaru and asuma are both related to hiruzen sarutobi, but he is not a senju... so there's no connection explaining any use of elements
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@ 180 senpai
but why bother? we see his eye later after he used izanagi
- i think he just wanted to grab the mask like on page 4 in case he yet needed izanagi
plus the spacetime definately comes from his right visible eye... the swirl always starts there
so i don't think he's hiding sth there
but i DO think he has ms powers:
someone who claims he's got madaras powers, who even posesses the rinnegan now, who knows basicaly everything about the ninja world and everything about doujutsu, who can controll the kyuubi just with his eyes, who appears to have access to different old uchia eyes/sharingans
you think he's not able to use ms? come on...
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i'm not sure yet about tobi => izuna but i think the strongest sign towards that is when he tells sasuke about how his brother gave madara his eyes to protect him and the uchiha
at that point he grabs his arm like he remembers the pain or like he's angry that it was for nothing - something like that i guess
still... we don't know :P
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@Paul
Thanx for the reply. Maybe I wasn't clear enough.
We never saw his eye upon casting the teleportation jutsu. I totally agree about space/time jutsu coming from his right eye, though.
Sharingan as it is never shows the powers to teleport (unless upgraded to MS) but Tobi uses the same Sharingan. So there must be something special about his sharingan.
And the other matter, right now, based on facts I believe Tobi does NOT have MS. Or even if he does it is not like the Uchiha.
He certainly does not have Susanoo or else he would've used it instead of sacrificing his eye for Izanagi.
My point was: what if when he wants to teleport, at the moment, his eye turns shape to MS or Sth else. Which ofcourse would be a clue to who Tobi is.
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does anyone think its a stretch to ask what if madara is TES and izuna is TYS? its a longshot, but it pretty much guarntees that tobi is izuna. maybe the whole senju and uchiha history was a bunch of bologna.
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@189
wouldn't make sense if the descendants of tes and tys were both uchiha
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@Senpai
Might be a concealed MS. So far, using such a technique with a regular Sharingan is unpreceded. The only thing against this, as just you pointed out, Tobi had plenty chances to save himself if he had an MS, yet he chose far more complicated ways (i.e Izanagi).
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@ 0verl0rd 169
juugo theory.
What have we seen.
To use juugo his power, you need to survive the curse seal.
This stuff is lifethreatening.
However, hashirama his power is life. An opposit.
We have seen how hashirama his powers, are shown as a light color.
White zetsu, white body parts(white greenish) etc.
Juugo his power spreads dark color on your skin (unlike the white hashirama variant), the spots/stripes of curse seal lvl 1 and the change of your body when it takes over more, the other lvls.
The skin becomes dark.
Both powers can take over your body if you cant control it. However, one turns into life, the hashirama version turns you into life itself, a tree, while juugo his power kills you if you stay to long in the form (sakon his words were corrosive if i remember correct).
butbutbutbut meow, what about the white snake power zomg!! xD.
i know, i know, hold your horses xD,
its a variant of hashirama his power, that is why orochimaru needed only the uchiha part.
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aaaaaaaaah, my head feels so light and relaxed right now.
Tobi identity powned.
Sage history powned.
Juugo powned.
Byakugan powned.
Sharingan powned.
You can all kick my @rse silly if i am wrong though lols.
Although i wont run like a dog with its tail behind its legs because IMMA CAT!! :).
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needed only the uchiha part as remaining.
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add 194 hehe
white snake is orochimaru's power (kabuto has lot of his skills due to the cell injection).
Hashirama his power could be added (experiments and hypothesis were done)
uchiha was the remaining ingredient :).
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Kankuro of the advance team is MIA for long time .
Could his team and he be heading in the same direction as Itachi ?
Deidera is still trapped and could talk leading the team to Kabuto.
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@ zevro
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from google xD.
You got your name from that?
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@ senpai 180
Its just that he shown shocked and surprised...nothin else
About that 3 tomeo eye
I really think he has ms but it is at the point that he will get it sealed if he uses its power again...
And
I think he cant have ms coz he dont have a brother to turn into ems...
Thats why he never showed in ms state
Which is why i always support
Tobi=kagami theorys
Is there anyone inlighten me on my 178 th post
:)
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i think wen madara found hw 2 recreate a body to sage of six paths, harishma found abt dis nd dey fought in the waterfall
i think d secret way to find d tablet dat can only read by uchiha or rinnegan eyes was through d waterfall.......nd haarishma & madara knew abt dis......madara gt a chance he read it nd wen he came back findin harishma standin to finish him off bcaux he knew madara read d tablet nd will b a trouble in da futur he fought wid him........
rockzhandzm
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@ ME 187
Maybe hashirama power + madara power=3tail+yagura get owned.
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