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First of all, Kishi is a genius!
plus shisui was an uchiha who inherited the will of senju! go figure
one thing is cleared that neither tobi is shisui nor he has shisui's other eye
shisui's genjutsu was considered even stronger than that of itachi because there is no escaping it!(itachi's can be nulled by true jinchuriki hosts)
and all of us missed that crow's eye pattern wasn't matching with Itachi's mangekyou!!lol
now shisui also had the mangekyou! then it makes theory behind acquiring the mangekyou even more confusing! (Kakashi and why did itachi kill shisui!?)
and will it be this easy? just show the crow to sasuke and he becomes a good guy!! can't wait for next chapter!!!!!
ALL HAIL KOMO AMATSUKAMI
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1st?
Zedt
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what a chapter....nagato now has for the1st time since Hanzo his healed body
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1st! wow shisui eyes! great twist but if shisui had the MS too then i now want to the back story to shisui.
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As the genjutsu has been used on Itachi, it will take 10 years to reactivate again right?
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k 3rd not bad though...
Does this chap prove that you only have to see someone near to you dying for getting the mangekyou or what?
AND is naruto going to suck the crow again? or is it flying besides him + is the crow able to use the mangekyou again or was it a "1 hit jutsu"?
Zedt
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lol if naruto is able to gain control of the crow then he'll become the greatest hokage by just putting everyone under his genjutsu, a jutsu that would tell everyone to protect konoha.
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And still, why did Nagato's hair turn red again?
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Awesome chapterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Chetori Voria?
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@ sasauke: it's because of Kabuto's Edo Tensei effects
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I love that panel in which nagato asks itachi, "that crow its yours isn't it"
hahahahaah XD like if he is hiding behind a wall afraid of something!!!
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so close....
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156 chakri :D
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12th WHOA!!!..
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Great chapter! I guess Nagato trying to use human path on Naruto isn't going to work. Surely he'll be trying to suck out the kyuubi too which will be too much to take on?
Also if it does work, doesn't that mean Naruto will die? Everyone that the human path was used on died before. Unless he kills Naruto and has to use rinne tensei again! Lol
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wow...luar biasa genius bung kishi ini,...keep up :)
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Itachi was always my favourite character,after this awesomnes he pulled,damn,am w/o words...
Kishi is fckin genious...
So Tobi isnt Shisui,in your face fuckers :) (couldnt resist :P hehe),and Itachi didnt killed Shisui,cant say i thought he did.
So the "felowship of the Konoha" now have 1 more shinobi.
Nagato will be tough to beat,but he cant hold against those 3 more then 2 mangas :).
Hope some more hidden truths will be unreveal soon.
~tsukuyomi~
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"In order to prevent conflict over his eyes, he made it look like he destroyed his eyes, and erased his existence."
"The last time i met shisui though... Danzo had already taken one eye."
Itachi clearly not killed shisui...
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Naruto does have a big stomach - He can store a crow, a frog and lots of ramen at the same time!
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WOW .A mangekyou justu which can be activated only once in ten years .Kishi rocks .This capter is awesome. KOMO AMATSUKAMI .By eliminating the mystery over shisui ,kishi has fueled another one .What is the secret of mangekyou sharingan ? Shisui,Itachi and Kakashi dont use hate while Madara ,Sasuke (and Izuna perhaps) use hate . This is getting interesting .Cant wait 14 days now :D ^_^
Itachi has surpassed every shinobi .Even death cant stop him .
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@Anonymous/8
ha, ha. If only Naruto could utilise the Gedo Mado and Ultimate Tsukyonomi jutsu then all would be casted as being protectors of Konoha. That would be a weird way of delivering by peace (reminds me of Stargate Sg1 movie).
@sasauke,
I think Kabuto describes that since Itachi has failed to be controlled then he has to resort to Nagato's hidden talents where he can actually perform all the path techniques if he wishes. i.e. he can absorb all chakra, he can do summonings, he can push/pull objects, he can read minds/sense chakra, he can fabricate ninja tools, and he can ressurect the dead; if he wishes.
Nagato's chakra is an Uzamaki which is equilavent to the strength of his chakra. Over using Gedo Mado and his abilities have reaped his youth. Using animal path techniques he has regained his stamina.
Therefore, what is Kabuto's plan? I think it to undermine Tobi by obtaining all the ingredients to activate the Infinite Tsukyonomi technique. Why? First he needs all the 7 tail chakras (all can be fabricated via his Edo Tensei summonings) and a bit of all the 8/9tails foxes. The translation labels at the end, Nagato the ultimate body.
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@21 LOL
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It is more or less clear now that MS is achieved from the pain of loss of someone realy close to you.
You dont have to be the killer.
Which makes me wonder, why did itachi tell sasuke to kill his closest friend?
Did he knew sasuke wouldnt do it because itachi said so? Didnt itachi risk sasuke killing his friend?
Shisui is awesome, but he was still alive when danzo had taken one eye.
DANZO HAD TAKEN ONE EYE, BEFORE SHISUI GAVE THE OTHER ONE TO ITACHI.
Isnt that odd?
The eye in the picture that is missing in shisui his head, is the one taken by danzo.
Shisui gave his remaining eye to itachi and probably killed himself or let itachi finish him.
@ thedarprince 2
you didnt notice the crow ms had 4 edges?
Anyway, there is a huge problem now, appearently shisui his super genjutsu works once every 10 years.
Naruto wont have it in time vs sasuke if nothing changes.
However itachi mentions senju hashirama's power, so maybe naruto being uzumaki can do something about the 'every 10 years' part.
Danzo could cast shisui his genjutsu mind control every day and he had hashirama his cells.
SICK STUFF!! xD.
awesome chapter is awesome.
/drools.
xD.
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HELLO ALL NARUTO FANS,
This is my first comment here, I post a comment here because I think its the best chapter that would reveal most of the stories line.. :D
Thanks for sharing
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nagato sucked up humongous chakra from naruto and bee's tailed beast mode, so the chakra he used after syncing with gedo mazo and using rinne tensei no justsu was restored thus he regained his red hairs and a super healthy Uzumaki body!
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hahaha...
KOTO AMATSUKAMI!! awesome
great chapter!!.. and come on.. this is naruto of the manga entitled "NARUTO".. he'll prolly use the crow again in 2 minutes. hehe
by the way, something (not from this chapter) that confuses me -
hashirama senju supposedly creatled mokuton jutsu by combining earth & water, but then 9-tails-mode naruto was turning zetsus into trees with his pure chakra.. now, my question is did hashirama senju have the ability to control biju because of his mokuton, or did his mokuton style come about from being so near to the biju that it took an inate potential ability in him and make it 'grow' into mokuton style?
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I Smell new Series of naruto with naruto, sasuke etc all grown up, think every 10 years it was an intro to another series, so i think we will see naruto adult :)
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@Christianto, Welcome to the Naruto board :)
Agreed, this was actually a very informative issue.
I somehow suspect that Itachi can't be de-summoned. In order to come back to be desealed, the controlled Edo Tensei requires to be voluntarily moved back into the coffins whereby they lose their mobility and probably get a special kunai-Lobotomy.
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How did shisui obtain ms?
Loss of his brother obito? (if that was his brother).
The pain of war?
Shisui was so awesome, he fooled the whole uchiha clan into thinking how he would do everything for the uchiha clan, while his interests were protecting the village and peace.
Senju hashirama his dna can maybe turn shisui his genjutsu from 10 years to 1 day cooldown. If what danzo uses is the same thing as this super ms genjutsu.
Appearently tobi his genjutsu was similar and i dont think the guy behind yagura could have been danzo.
Yet tobi wanted to have shisui his eye.
And danzo fought in the shadows to protect konoha as well, which are more or less shisui his ideals.
Yet its said 'danzo had taken shisui his eye' not 'had been given'.
aaah my mind goes overload!!!!!!!!!!
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i think kabuto is after the crow now because of the eye of shisui
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@28
Actually I really like the theory moukoton is made up of earth ,water and yang .Yamato-Zetsu only use earth and water .naruto's heavy yang release reacts to their moukoton and we get trees .
Did anyone read death and strawberries 2 .someone's back :D
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Itachi Rocks...... :)
In your face kabuto...... :D
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@meow meow
It was itachi who killed shisui! Shisui didnt want ppl to fight over his eyes, thus he asked Itachi to take his remaining eye and kill him by making it look like a suicide. you can relate it to mercy killing! thus itachi killed his best friend same as madara and izuna did, for acquiring a mangekyou, thus Itachi told sasuke to kill your best friend. People always misinterpret the situation, same when sasuke acquired his mangekyou... sasuke didnt awaken his mangekyou until tobi didnt tell him the truth about Itachi, before hearing the truth itachi was an enemy to sasuke thus his mangekyou didnt activate but after hearing the truth sasuke realized that Itachi was the closest person he had thus the guilt of killing his most dear person took over and his mangekyou awakened!
the only exception to this is Kakashi, who hasn't been shown to kill the person dearest to him.
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@23 -
kabuto can't use the edo-tensei summons to get the 1-7 tails!.. first of all, the edo-tensei brings the person back as they were at the time of their death.. at the time of their deaths, the jinchuuriki were empty of biju chakra.. & second, the one-tail's chakra is ONLY in the gedo maza..
so, kabuto can't perform the moon's eye tech.. (by the way, i believe that none of the info that tobi's gave freely is 100% truth, so who knows if the moon's eye is his true goal, or if it's even possible at all)
ZETSU for EARTH-DAY MASCOT
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@31
Christopher Nolan cried today !!
Kishi did an anti-nolan
every uchiha dies a villain or gets resurrected by edo-tensai to be proven a super-hero
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shisui will probably be revived by kabuto now, because naruto carries his dna.
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or at least kabuto will try somehow.
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@This is so fucking awsm,epicness........ nagato rock nothing could stop him now n btw he is looking so cool n handsome wen he sucked out bee n naruto chakra,i bet he is even handsome than itachi n naruto combine.lol........itachi is a real legend even death couldn't stop him,he is just like kratos,lol bee awsm as ever n last my favourate character naruto he is the top legend n my all time best manga n anime character,he'll show every villain who is the boss.....shishui is so awsm i didn't know b4 but now i know he was better than itachi but now itachi has surpassed every uchia,yes N LAST BUT NOT LEAST I THAN U KISHIMATO 4 MAKING SUCH GENIUS+++++++ MANGA U R THE TOP LEGEND.LOL
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I wonder how long it will take for Naruto Wikia to write a summary of Koto Amatsu-kami technique:
E.g) Koto Amatsu-kami, a technique designed to subversively changed the core beliefs and behavior of an individual; even those that possess a MS.
Some individuals may possess a weakened version of this jutsu such as Danzo Shimura who battled and stole Shisui's right eye. Because Danzo possessed the First Hokage's dna and could not awaken the MS version, then he's version of the jutsu would only acutely affect the long term belief of an individual and would regenerate within several hours in a given day.
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PEOPLE PEOPLE -
remember, that danzo was NOT using the koto amatsukami.. that is a mangeyko tech.. danzo was using a much water'd down version (enough to confuse people and sway decisions, but not enough to completely change their personality, motives, & negate other techniques used on the person..
THAT is the power of KOTO AMATSUKAMI.. and since danzo crushed shusui's other eye, naruto is the only person capable of using that power! (atleast until someone steals the crow from him)
ZETSU for CLASS-PRESIDENT
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awesome two issues in one manga
shisuis mangekyo genjutsu against sasuke new eyes
nagato recovering his youth by absorbing 8 tails chakra and nine tails
doubt kabuto will let nagato to kill naruto with human path, kabuto will order nagato to cancell that jutsu
he need naruto after all, and of course, nine tails will
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the crow activates by itself, it doesnt react to the user will, but to itachis eyes
when sasuke uses mangekyo with itachis eyes thats when the croe will appear
take that you rikudo reborn fool
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fuck yea
rikudo reborn my ass
thank you kishi for not being so stupid
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does that mean danzo attacked and stole shishus eye
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or shisui committed suicide/died by illness like itachi .
Look at the closeness of their mangekyous .Most prolly both suffered from same illness.
The uchiha are just over-thinking about suicide note.It was written and signed by shisui and by the looks of the situation ,it is true .
Kakashi and Itachi have one thing in common ,the grief of loss of their dearest friend .Could it be the secret of mangekyou sharingan
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the story is getting its life and thrill back finally which i never thought wud happen till naruto n sasgay fight!so does this mean there are 10 more years before naruto and sasgay fight????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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i think its obito eyes that tobi has in his right eyes
because kakashi 's mankeyo can suck things into another dimension... and the other eye to reverse effect into the dimension like sasuke controlling amaterasu with left eye
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hw come no one guessed the crow is a mangekyo sharingan lol!
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Loved this chapter - now long wait for anime :(
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love it
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I always knew Shisui was more powerful than Itachi... And that Itachi couldn't have possibly killed Shishui.... They sacrificed themselves for the sake of Konoha... I suspect Shisui entrusted his eye to Danzo as well as part of the "Project Protect Konoha" campaign.... Kishi is a genius...
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may b tobi be itachi n sasuke dad i think cuz he was the one who wanted to attack on konoha n itachi also hated him.for some reason
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WATCH
EVERY AND I MEAN EVERY NARUTO CHAPTER WHILST LISTNING
TO WIND AKEBOSHI IT MAKES ITACHI SEEM SO MUCH MORE EPICCCCCCCCCCC, WIND SHOULD BE LIKE THE UCHIHA THEME SONG.
BTW LOOK OUT FOR AN UP AND COMING MANGA CALLED "SPLITSCREEN" IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO!
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this chapter proves itachi and shisui were lovers!!!
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nxt chapter
ITACHI vs NAGATO
I have waiting for this so long
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SHISUI IS LIKE A SUPERHERO WE USED 2 CALLED HIM A VILLAIN N PREDICTING HIM TAT HE IS TOBI, he died 4 the sake of village n someone already said this he fooled the whole uchia clan n leaf village,a man of true honor n senju will of fire,kishi is so genius,......think guys if its wasn't 4 shishui wat itachi'd do,no mangekyo n massacre failure,.........although itachi has surpassed every uchia n in my opinion he is way much better than sasuke,if its wasn't 4 shishui n itachi,uchia clan would have destroyed the hidden leaf n in the end they all would have got haunt down by others ninja.lol.....soooooooooo so far now shishui n itachi is the top hero....... 1st hokage was just a pawn in the hand of fate........2nd hokage we don't know much about him but he was cool n thnx 2 him we could see the edo tensai,so he is awsm n genius in his own way.....3rd was creator cuz he made all three sanin n followed the senju will of fire even in the end of his death n he is the only shinobi who had mastered all the ninjutsu of leaf village a true genius,i bet he'd have f***ed orichimaru if he was little bit young,lol.............n now the true legend yes its none other than 4th hokage,a shinonbi who was god like genius n powerhouse without any special clan ability,he is a true savior cuz he made naruto who'll be the future world savior,he protected him with his life,he had beaten world fastest shinobo without becomeing hokage,he fuc****ed up madra who can-control nine tail himself without breaking a sweat........top legends of naruto world n biggest of all them is my best naruto character,jiraya the toad sage,he died but he gave the world 3 saviors...minato,nagato,naruto...he made all of them wat they r now or even after death i wish jiraya'd have live 2 c this day,he was the man n a true shinobbi n there is only 1 shinobi in naruto world so far who inherit the same guts n power like him n he is naruto uzamuki,............. this my theory of top shinobis of naruto world so plz comment guys
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@son ur saying itachi n shishui were gays,lmao
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koto amatsukami!
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Could it be that Nagato is checking out of Edo Tensei too?
I mean Itachi got out through the Koto Amatsukami, as Nagato still has his free will he could be pretending to fight Naruto and Bee for a moment acting on his free will and then by absorbing enough chakra restore his life force through this breaking Edo Tensei. I mean if he wasn't Nagato would've warned Naruto and Bee about the coming attack, wouldn't he?
I don't assume this without reason, the end of the chapter seems to read "Nagato becomes complete". It could refer to "complete" as a self-controlled and free, also as master of life and death (see chapter where Naruto talks pain into reviving Konoha)with the Rinnegan he should be able to break Edo Tensei.
Naturally, as "complete" also could refere to the fact, that he is using all paths in one body. Thought, that wouldn't really be a surprise as before the six paths Nagato created there was never a question that the Rinnegan within the Sot6P was able to use the elements with his own body.
Hope I worte this clearly, ... what's your answere?
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@58 yeah...
its like what itachi being a true konoha shinobi was just because of shisui, though in his own way.
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kYu ..
What does the last chapter mean: Nagato Becomes Complete!? in what way? i noticed that when he used Preta Path he sucked chakra so as in Human Path.. im kinda confused of that thought -.- eitherway he became younger when he drains chakra and the fact that Itachi killed shisui in order to get MS just to protect the village, and Kabuto said his luck is getting better .. What does that mean? o.o
- oh and shisui wanted to be killed by the hands of itachi because he wanted to do SELF SACRIFICE and so he gave his Eye before he died :]
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if we c current leaf ninjas no doubt,Naruto is the strongest among all of them,n so far we have seen only shikamaru,sakura,n chozi powers,i bet chozi is stronger than all konoha 11 except naruto,....i want 2 c some neji powers its time 2 watch some amazing hyuga powers,neji is 1 of the strongest chracter n he is being so lame but i think kishi'll show the awsmness of hyuga power through neji n wen he'll do,madra'll get shock,i think so,..........about tenten she is not so useful character so she deserve 2 die.lol...kiba is awsm cuz he is wild.lol i mean wen it come 2 wildness he is the best n its time 4 kishi 2 show some wild kiba so don't kill him,........hinata although she deserve 2 die but it'd be a lame thing 4 story cuz we all want naruto 2 f**** her,lmao....... shino is good n a strong character,strong enough 2 hold powerful shinobi so he is useful n he don't deserve 2 die........rock lee is so damn cool wen it come 2 fight any shinobi y the hell kishi is holding him he is 1 of the strongest character in naruto world,strong enough 2 defeat some1 like gaara,i want 2 sorry we all want 2 c rock lee rampage with his awsm 8th inner gates surpassing his guy sensai,may be he'll open all gates without taking any damage just like chozi could use his butterfly mose without using any pills hence no damaga,this can only happen wen a strong emotion'd hit rock lee like guy is dying protecting his comrades n 2 protect him a new power'll take place under rock lee something like natural inner gates,sorry about the name i'm not good wen it come 2 making names.lol n then he'd be able 2 use his inner gates without taking any damage only exhaustion after finished using it.lol.........shikamru is next generation genius n we all know tat so he'll live.........chozi got powers like superman n he is looking so damn cool n handsome just like naruto or even more handsome than naruto.lol so we want mre of his rampage, ino is atleast better than b4 n fighting like a true shinobi,she has protected chozi several times,so she rock..............as 4 lame sakura,she is still thinking which she'll save the 1st between naruto n sasuke,its f**ing disguisting who will u save the boy who dn't give a shit about ur feeling n almost took ur life life or the 1 who love u more than anything n ready 2 bet his life 2 protect u so here is the conclusin this b**ch deserve 2 die a dirty death like wen naruto goes on a rampage n'll 4et everything n his only goal'd be 2 kill sasuke n wen hes almost kill him she'll come 2 save the great sasuke n this'd be the best moment,naruto will f**ck sasuke sword in her ass.lol n she'll die..........then sasuke'll acknowledge her love n his top prioriy'd be 2 kill naruto,then the main battle'll begin..............2 shinobi = 1 senju( rikuda younger son relative) VS 1 uchia (older son relative? this 'd be the 1 hell of fight,..................................2 be continue.........guys plz comment on my theory
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Itachi ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!
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"...discounting Senju Hashirama's chakra..."
Well, in manga 462 and the corresponding anime, Tobi seems to be saying that Naruto is a Senju. We also know Uzumaki and Senju are distant relations. Go figure...
Naruto recharging the SMS and using it on Sasuke, that's the kind of lame ass ending that JK Rowling would write. No, Sasuke needs true redemption!
I guess Shisui was the first Uchiha in a long time to activate MS, and so he was requested by danzo, to give up an eye for the good of the village. Furthermore, if he was in Danzo's root division, he would have complied gladly.
Contrary to what others have said here, I think Danzo may have been using this same MS technique, on the 5 kages, that would explain why he was waiting for it to recharge during his battle with Sasuke. You will notice that Kakashi didn't need his eye to recharge, when he over-used it, his whole body suffered.
Oh yeah, Kakashi told Sasuke there was no one close to him, because they all died long ago. Maybe the weight of one or all those losses finally sank in, or maybe it takes time for the MS to activate after the traumatic event, and Kakashi not being an Uchiha took decades instead of days or hours. Maybe the process started as Obit lay dying and kakshi blamed himself, maybe Kakashi killed Guy and replaced him with a shape-shifting stooge, maybe... :-)
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Edo-Itachi, a powerful, immortal MS user on the leaf's side - things have never looked brighter for the good guys.
Question: if an edo-zombie uses Izanangi, would they go blind?
For that matter a regular MS user zombie like Itachi, would he go blind again after a while?
How come Itahci isn't blind right now? Wasn't he blind when he died?
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Wow!!! Itachi didn't [Can't] kill Shisui. I kinda knew it.... :D
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@67
Nope Itachi wasn't blind before he died.
This chapter was very good! I loved it.
finally we know what the crow does! :D
Now I wonder what will happen with nagato and the rest
Since nagato is absorbing their chakra.. Will naruto have enough to go to all places and finally fight with sasuke?
Btw, Sorry for not posting for so long or barely I had things that needed to be done and vacation!
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@50
i predicted this..see previous chapter discussion, post 352...(i want a cookie).
@61
nagato is going to use gedo rinne on himself....than the alliance will have an immortal itachi and nagato on there side..swayed by their belief in naruto to return from the dark side.
Or this could be a good time for naruto to pull out a random sealing jutsu that will unbind nagato from kabuttos will.something similar to what minato did when he took the kyuubi from tobis control.
either way i really want itachi and nagato to remain alive but on the alliances side..we never got to see either of them at full power.
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wow, this chapter is stunning me so much.
i think when naruto and sasuke fight, sasuke will confuse. why his brother give him and naruto power.
for sasuke, itachi amaterasu self activated when sasuke look at madara eyes. and after that, sasuke MS is awakening. for naruto the power of shisui's eye the ultimate genjutsu "koto amatsukami". that's mean, it's meaningless to control naruto with genjutsu even with MS.
finally, sasuke realized that his brother entrusted the village to him and naruto, and the restoration of uchiha clan.
sasuke go back to konoha, naruto kept his promise with sakura, and the final battle naruto and sasuke vs Madara.
about nagato come back to his youth, i don't have any idea.
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this just proves that every mangekyo sharingan has unique traits appearances and powers.
shisui's mangekyo could not do tsukoyumi but could do the ultimate genjutsu
kakashi's or obito's could do kamui
itachi could do tsukoyumi, amaterasu and susanoo.
sasuke's mangekyo is same as itachi's because his blood dripped on sasuke's eyes therefore inheriting itachi's magekyo powers.
i think among the sharingan users it was only itachi who has the knowledge and guts to explore the powers of his unique mangekyo sharingan trading mangekyo abilities for blindness and early death
even tobi could not activate the mangekyo abilities of his sharingan...
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It will probably take a day to use it again. Danzo used it every couple hours. Its surprising though, I didn't think danzo was using the mangekyou form of it.
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now its clear 6th coffin is shisui
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Not all ms jutsus are unique. tobi even mentioned how being able to use susano is rare. Rare is not unique, but rare is just rare.
MS jutsus.
Susanoo.
Koto amatsu kami.
Kamui.
Tsukiyomi.
Amaterasu.
others.
However, different MS users can have unique versions of those powers i just listed.
Itachi his tsukiyomi can control time.
Sasuke can control his amaterasu flames.
Shisui his mindcontrolgenjutsu is the kind that you are not aware of (yet itachi is aware of it? lol).
Maybe tobi his kamui allows him to enter the realm or portal itself. Whereas kakashi cant, or kakashi his unique version is the range. (if its both kamui).
Tobi wanted to do mugentsukiyomi right?
wouldnt mugen koto amatsu kami be better?
Unless you want to have everyone in that tsukiyomi world.
Or are like ''meh mugen koto amatsu kami doesnt sound good, its to long, ill just use tsukiyomi instead lol.
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@74
It would be lame.
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itachi told naruto calm down i'm not being controlled anymore i layered a genjutsu on top of the enemy jutsu with this,the edo tensei is canceled so does that means itachi is alive & can do as he please
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I think that Itachi is back to pure world from page 13 where if you notice his face's shown that he is satisfied from naruto and is now going back as paper is shown uncovering from his face.
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@72 Wrong - databook says that Kamui can be trained so it is not unique.
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@77 what he mean there is that the 'control' of kabuto toward itachi's movement is nullified, but still kabuto could still undo his edo tensei
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at the last page, was that the justu the pulls the soul out of you? human path right. same to the one that killed shizune? so what's happen next there? naruto dies? dats weird....
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Anyone noticed that Nagatos eyes colored changed as well?
Anyways, Shisui's komo amatsukami have been activated before his "death". That must have been some "fight" for him to use that komo amatsukami. Or he used it for something else, maybe he used it on Itachi and thats how he got his MS?
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@75
Mugen kotoamatsukami will be awesome
Knowing Tobi ,now i know why Itachi is kickass and tobi was warned against entering konoha.
Prolly Itach and SHisui fought Madara uchiha .On the verge of defeat Shisui entrusted his will and the secret of mangekyou sharingan to Itachi .
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@ overthinker
sasuke's mangekyo is same as itachi's not because of the dripping of blood.... lol... but because itachi transferred his eye power to sasuke before he died...
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@ 77
If things get out of control, Great Kabuto can always cancel his summons.....
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@ hwtrblsm / @81
I don't think it would work, how could kishi? - I thought the human path could possibly suck on life energy? -Post 61 was mine. wikia.naruto.com says that the Human Path can read the mind at the cost of the life from the one who's being read. I don't think we know all Rinnegan/ Path abilities yet, so lets wait and see.
At the moment, I think there are two possibilities, on one hand Naruto could fight of the attack with a chakra attack (or is he in the last picture holding back Nagatos hand with chakra?) or the other hand it could be that Nagato somehow cancels it.
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6th coffin isn't shishui its mostly madara s brother
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but what exactly will the crow di to sasuke?
itachi only said that he placed the order "protect konoha" on the shisuis eye
so
its not for killing sasuke?
its to force him to protect konoha with a genjutsu?
i am confused
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In your faces, Kabuto and Ginjou!! :D
Awesome chapters, both Naruto and Bleach!
Komo amatsukami, simply mind blowing. However that ability made me think of something: Did Danzo really die during his battle with Sasuke? Or did he fake his death with Komo Amatsukami?
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I was hear I read everything
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@ 88
it is supposed to protect the leaf, therefore it will be used to defeat sasuke when he attacks the leaf.
@ everyone else
here's an idea that just popped up in my mind. you sasuke will betray kabuto and then take his power and use it to attack konoha?
ALL HAIL KOTO-SAMA
ALL HAIL KOTO AMATSUKAMI
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#89
That was Koto, not Komo. Sorry :P
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by the way, i also hope kishi won't make another 10 year time skip. when that happens "koto amatsukami" will be lame
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FIRST!!!... o wait...
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Its the kage from the village hidden in the ice back again to say awesome chapter kabuto prolly plans on reviving shishu and using his powers on madara or sasuke and he becomes the ninja with the upper hand but i bet sauske gonna still whoop his ass jeah!!!
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how many powers can mangekyo handle?
i mean
we have seen about 6 powers
tsukuyomi
amaterasu
susano
kamui
enton kagusuchi
shisuis jutsu
and we still got to see eternal magekyo new power
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the 6th coffin cannot be shisui.
Kabuto had a conversation with tobi about reviving shisui with the dna material of his eye.
This was some time after the 6th coffin was revealed to tobi.
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wasn't the human path's ability to suck out soul from a person's body in order to obtain information???
I think it was shizune who died due to the same! someone will have to help naruto and that to quick!
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@ 88
it is indeed to force sasuke to protect konoha without his free will.
Something sasuke could have done out of free will after itachi died.
The crow is to make sure it still happens.
Guess i can flush my izanami theory down the drain lol.
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I'm happy that shisui genjutsu will make sasuke protect konoha, but wouldn't that mean sasuke will just be faking it because of the genjustu instead of him doing it because he feels it's the right thing to do?
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I think Itachi's gonna fight against nagato then kishi will make him die so he won't encounter sasuke...
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even if it was said that, a senju's powers can shorten the time required to activate shisui's mangekyou can be shortened, why are people confusing with the timeskip? though there is going to be a timeskip!
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The most interesting part in the chapter in my opinion, is that Shisui only had one eye left, when he gave his left eye to itachi.
Shisui was not some weak shinobi and itachi said 'danzo had TAKEN shisui his eye'.
He didnt say 'had been given'.
Danzo without a sharingan arm or maybe even sharingans, somehow took shisui his eye? He took some subordinates with him to do that?
He had sharingans somehow and or hashirama his power?
Did it happen in a similar way how fu tried to take ao his byakugan? Maybe a different yamanaka.
Did the elders help?
I dont see how a normal danzo with some windjutsu and that summon, could have taken on shisui.
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as far as i understand
tsukuyomi and KOTO AMATSUKAMI have different purpose
tsukuyomi transports you to a dimension in your mind where the user controls what happens and you feel pain as in real life
with KOTO AMATSUKAMI
is for manipulation of the opponents thoughts making him think he is only going along with his thoughts and insticts without being aware of being influenced
but if thats so, then how danzou didnt notice sasukes genjutsu?
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great chapter now we see the eye that might be transplanted into naruto :D
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bu it doesnt make sense
why 10 years?
is it becasue the crow is no human?
the only thing that has been explained its mangekyo blindness and that why mangekyo should not be used so often
but using it like say, every once a month should mean no problem
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koto amatsukami might mean 'god of gods'
literally it means 'distinguished heavenly gods'
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something tells me sasuke doesnt have itachis magekyo
just like shisui surprisigly had mangekyo
i bet tobi thought that itachi may have done something to his own eyes so that sasuke wouldnt be able to use them or something like that
maybe there wehre other few unkown uchiha with magekyo and tobi take posession of them
either that or maybe sasuke will be able to break through the genjutsu on his own
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to TheDarkPrince
according to wiki you are wrong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotoamatsukami
thats not the meaning
this is
"distinguishing heavenly kami"
"
is the collective name for the first powers which came into existence at the time of the creation of the universe. They were born in Takamagahara, the world of Heaven at the time of the creation, as Amenominakanushi 天御中主 (Central master), Takamimusubi (High creation), Kamimusubi (Divine creation), and a bit later Umashiashikabihikoji (Energy) and Amenotokotachi (Heaven).
These forces then became gods and goddesses, the tenzai shoshin (heavenly kami) - Ame no minakanushi no kami; Takami-musubi no ôkami; Kamimusubi no ôkami; Umashiashikabihikoji no kami; Ame no Tokotachi no kami; Kuni no Tokotachi no kami; Toyokumono no kami; Uhijini no mikoto; Suhijini no kami; Tsunokuhi no kami; Ikukuhi no kami; Ôtonoji no kami; Ôtonobe no kami; Omodaru no kami; Kashikone no kami; Izanagi no kami; Izanami no kami; and Amaterasu ômikami.
"
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Shisui his ultimate genjutsu is one, where you arent aware of it right?
But itachi is aware that its casted on him.
Maybe because he can see the crow with shisui his ms pattern and because he has a memory of what the crow can do.
The powerful part is that itachi has to do what that genjutsu tells him (even though he will agree anyway with the current command of protecting konoha).
So not only is that genjutsu so powerful that it can be done without the target even knowing it, but you are also forced to follow what the genjutsu tells you to do.
One weakness though, it can be dispelled, unless itachi did something about that as well.
@ 104
Because danzo wasnt paying attention enough, overconfidant, careless or how you want to call it.
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Sigh... Sasuke, the poor dude. He's been used and deceived since day one by itachi, basically his entire family, orichimaru and madara. And now, his "best friend"' is going to cast a genjutsu on him and program him to protect konoha. Man, I'm surprised his mind hasn't shut down or something.
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@ 109
sounds like mythology. kishi really knows his stuff about mythology then.
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Wait where did itachi go?
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@ 110
it has to be dispelled by a user not being controlled by it. By the way, that proves kabuto wrong. edo tensei does have a weakness. the control can be cancelled out by other techniques used to control opponents.
also, he knew it worked since edo tensei's control was gone.
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@109 anon
lol nice work on copying wiki!!
does the word 'might' mean something to you?
dude for your info, I have learned Japanese in my grad! and even if you took efforts to read it on wiki, you got it all wrong!
Amenominakanushi (master)
Takamimusubi (high creation)
Kamimusubi (divine creation)
Umashiashikabihikoji (energy creation)
Amenotokotachi (heaven creation)
all of these entities were responsible for the creation of the univerese according to japanese mythology, whom later went on to become gods, the names you posted in the last para of your post, are the names of gods, thus Komo Ama Tsukami also means god of gods! just dont read blindly! try and understand, instead of trying to make me look mistaken! lol what a drag, making me type so much!
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to darkprince
narutopedia is not with you
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Koto_Amatsukami
The Kotoamatsukami (別天津神; Literally meaning "Distinguished Heavenly Gods") are a group of five Shintō gods that appeared at the beginning of the universe. When the Heavens and Earth were created, three of these gods came down from the Takamagahara (高天原; Literally meaning "High Heavenly Plains") as so-called 'single gods' (独神, hitorigami): gods that did not appear as a husband-wife duo. These three gods are called the 'Three Gods of Creation' (造化の三神, Zōka no Sanshin) and where:
Ame-no-Minakanushi-no-Kami (天之御中主神), the supreme god.
Takamimusuhi-no-Kami (高御産巣日神), the god of conquest and rule.
Kamimusuhi-no-Kami (神産巣日神), the god of birth.
After them, when the land was formed and sea was rising to the surface, two more gods appeared:
Umashiashikabihikoji-no-Kami (宇摩志阿斯訶備比古遅神)
Ame-no-Tokotachi-no-Kami (天之常立神)
These five gods have a special place among the Heavenly Gods (天津神, Amatsukami), hence their name: Distinguished Heavenly Gods (別天津神, Kotoamatsukami). After them came the 'Seven Generations of the Age of Gods' (神世七代, Kamiyo Nanayo), the last of which were Izanagi and Izanami, who were responsible for creating the Japanese archipelago.
you were totally wrong
it doesnt also mean anything, it just means distinguishable heavenly gods
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When the police found Shisui's body, why didn't they say 'ello 'ello 'ello whats going on here. This body has no eyes, whos nicked 'em? That must have been an important clue into realising that this wasn't suicide.
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to 116
mm
two issues here
it woul seem mangekyo doesnt have to have three vertices or maybe shisuis mangekyo was superior
shisuis mangekyo had 4 vertices
but, sasukes mangekyo had 6 vertices
do the vertices have somthing to do with how many mangekyo powers you can acces?
something tells me that sasukes EMS will let him use other god powers
wouldnt be surprised it had something to do with the three first gods
Ame-no-Minakanushi-no-Kami (天之御中主神), the supreme god.
Takamimusuhi-no-Kami (高御産巣日神), the god of conquest and rule.
Kamimusuhi-no-Kami (神産巣日神), the god of birth.
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A few things.
That crow is a real crow right?
So naruto swallowed a real crow alive?
It never eats?
It has a sharingan implanted in his eye socket? (badass crow lol)
Shouldnt you put a leash on it, it might fly away xD.
naruto has swallowed a giant frog with a scroll body as well.
They eat ramen that get swallowed by naruto?
itachi talks about conflict over shisui his eyes and that danzo had taken one of the eyes.
I assumed by force, but you can probably take it with persmission too.
In the end, danzo wanted to protect the village from within the shadows. Even though you can argue about how he did it, his intentions were good.
@ Christianto 26
welcome.
@ thedarkprince 13
yeah that was quite funny.
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Itachi said Shisui made it look like he destroyed his eyes, didn't he? It is also stated in this chapter that Shisui took his own life, not that Itatchi killed him.
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Itatchi must have a way around the 10 year rule otherwise it would have been stupid of him to activate it now
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@ 117
hahahaha, true.
@116
thedarkprince is saying 'distinguished heavenly gods'
You call it distinguisable heavenly kami(god) and later distinguishable heavenly god.
and your naruto wiki info even says The Kotoamatsukami (別天津神; Literally meaning "Distinguished Heavenly Gods")
Mind boggling to me why you disagree.
Arent you both saying the same thing?
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to Meowmeow
hahaha
true
wonder what the crow and the frog have been doing toether in the stomach?
playing football or soemthign i guess
also find kind of funny that shisuis eye must wait 10 yeras to activate again
maybe is becasue the crow has lower lifespan than humans and could die if it uses the mangekyo so many times
but whatever
lets see
shisui died when sasuke was about 8 years or not?
so
where are the 10 yers if sasuke is 16?
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in addtion to 122 116
if anything, your 'distinguishable' part isnt completely right.
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@116 anon
ahahahahhahahahhahah
did u even read what you posted??lol
in the very first line of your second para, theres a line u should have read- "The Kotoamatsukami (別天津神; LITERALLY meaning "Distinguished Heavenly Gods") are a group of [FIVE SHINTO GODS] that appeared"
first go and find what is shinto! then understand that these gods are the ones that govern over the hitorigami (the gods who are worshiped by humans) and it clearly says LITERALLY, still you didn't get the fact that its not the exact translation! its just word to word translation. I'll give you one example- the word 'AKELA' (a hindi word) literally translates as 'lonely' in english but it also means 'the only one'
there are different meanings to different words and most of the time they are not according to the literal transltion. If even now you didn't understand it then blame it on your lame education! sry but thats the way it is!
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hmm this chapter was awesome!! i wonder what Itachi will do now when he is free from Edo Tensi? will he go back to konha with naruto or go to sauske??
I wanna see kakashi face if naruto come back with itachi and the crow:D
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maybe sasuke is 18 or maybe shisui died when sasuke was 6
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sooo i got a question????? so will shuishui eye be able to activate quicker because of senju chakra???? itachi said 10 yr???very good chap..... love itachi so badass should have been a hokage...so is itachi imortal now is he free of kobato???
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@ thedarkprince and meowmeow
DISTINGUISHABLE, DISTINGUISHED, DISTINGUISHING, WHO CARES???!?!!!!??!?!?!!?!?!
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http://www.mangaday.com/Naruto/550/17/
What is that square form thingy around naruto, left picture in the middle.
And the black cross/star thingy on the left of the words, 'nagato becomes complete'.
@ 127
Sasuke was 6 or so yeah.
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Well this puts the whole storyline in perspective. I'm currently finding hard to filter which actions in all the story that were in fact arbitrary. Shisui's Mangekyou power may be harder to use, but the lower level controlling power is still quite effective. Shisui's powers may have been molding the story for a lot of time, manipulating many of the major protagonists and antagonists.
Also Danzo had plans to acess Shisui's Mangekyou powers; this chapter revealed why Danzo wanted Orochimaru's data to improve his sharingan and also why he destroyed it. Tobi would have had acess to the power in no time, he has Hashirama's powers.
Also, why didn't Nagato use the Hidden Leaf villagers chakra to rejuvenate himself, and fight in a proper shape? Why only now?
@Meowmeow
I don't think that's a real crow. Not entirely. It's the same case as with Orochimaru's snakes. He could spawn snakes from all over his body, which indicates they are manifestations of chakra. I believe the crow shares the same traits. One of Itachi's evasive maneuvers was to dispel himself into crows. It's not a summon or anything like it
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naruto manga was awesome, than after a while it went a bit down the crapper but lately it is comming back out of the crapper into the super awesomeness xD.
Why did itachi and shisui didnt plan it all on a different day than the uchiha meeting?
It would have made itachi less suspicious.
@ 0verl0rd 131
Maybe.
I always considered the crow stuff a genjutsu or bunshin.
How do you hit something that can dispel himself into crows? (unless you do it fast enough).
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Great chapter. Kishi is always finishing a chapter with unbearable suspense lol. Did you guys notice at the last page that Nagato is performing 'Human path' jutsu on Naruto's ninetails seal? Perhaps Kabuto is attempting to extract his bijuu asap and kill him. From there two things can happens.
Either somebody saves his ass before it's too late.( bee Itachi or the crow...)Either Naruto survive with his bijuu extracted. We all know that he is not gonna die yet. I seriously doubt that it is the second choice because Madara already have his hands on the two brothers with ninetails chakra from the sealed Jar. This is awesome action right there. i can't wait to see what happens!
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@Meowmeow
I think its a form of the substitution jutsu. Strategically speaking, he can't spend a battle dodging. Itachi had low chakra reserves.
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This is hands down a chapter to prove once and for all that itachi is one of the greatest shinobis in Naruto world. And i'm beginning to think he did not make the massacre i don't know why but is just a feeling, shisui you are a simply a man of mindful vision who accepted his fate of destroying himself ( due to the fact of his power he did not feared it but rather wanted to destroy something that was gonna do more harm than good) and trusting the rest on your best friend, this is so poetic in many ways it is epic. A man who sacrifice himself for the sake of others wow now that is grand. Even though there is still a lot to see on that part from the beginning i always knew that Itachi was the key of the manga now we know who the key's master was Shisui. To be brief all i can say is wow....
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I didn't get what Itachi meant with Senju Hashirama, can someone help? Thanks
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couldnt shisui just implant regular sharingans from really old uchiha on their deathbed or normal eyes and give his remaining eye to itachi?
Did he had to kill himself?
Or did itachi and shisui already agreed on that itachi would stop a coup and that he needed ms for that. Probably that.
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Yeah Itachi is one of the most epic mangas character for sure. I hope, for once, we get to see some flash back stories of Uchiwa Shisui to see his battle skills and relation with Itachi. He's said to be his best friend.
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it just killed my head, non-uchiha can't use sharingan many times a day let alone ms, and a jutsu an uchiha need 10 years to use "may" have been using by a senju once a day >.<
Okay it might be different jutsu, but another thing killed me today is how Itachi didn't get an EMS for his own having an extra MS... Yes, it's not ur brother, but Shisui, Itachi, and Sasuke didn't get their MS from brother-killing either...
I wonder what's "exactly" on the tablet...
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@136
Apparently Hashirama's powers shorthen the drawbacks of Sharingan, such as the 10 years recharge period. Funny how the Senju powers complete the Uchiha powers, yet they were fierce enemies.
I'm guessing Shisui possessed a massive Yin part of chakra. Hashirama's Yang would make his genjutsu unstopable. The world would be on Shisui's feet.
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Hi guys long time since I post here.
This was an awesome chapter, finally putting a lot of theories about Tobi being Shisui and about the purpose of the crow to rest. But at the same time it opened up another can of worms, with the ten year span to use the crow and wether the other eye was given freely or not to Danzo.
In my opinion I think Danzo took that eye by cunning and force. Just the picture of Shisui's bleeding eye gives the impression that it was done in battle. Otherwise it would have been neatly bandaged...etc
From that picture it looks like Shisui approached Itachi just after he lost his eye to Danzo, figuring let me entrust this other eye to Itachi before something else unfortunate happens to me. With that he gave his other eye to Itachi and went on to commit suicide and make it look like both eyes were destroyed.
As for the koto amatsukami, I think that Itachi wanted to first off see how it would manifest itself and how it would work. Secondly knowing that Naruto took control of the nine tails, he would probably have enough chakra to activate it again without waiting the ten years. The key words were (discounting senju hashiramas chakra, unlikely as that is)So either he specifically needs Hashiramas chakra signature, or the enormous amount of chakra that hashirama posessed. If it's the latter then Naruto has an enormous amount at his disposal. If it's hashiramas specific chakra then he can access that if somehow he can save captain Yamato, or even with the new improved white Zetsu clones. Either way Kishi is a genious he left those options there.
As for a time skip, I think right now is next to impossible. There is too much going on with the war that needs to be completed. If there is a time skip it would be back in time maybe showing what exactly happened with Shisui. But not one going into the future as some of you suggested. there would be a lot more episodes to finish with the war before something like that would happen.
I just hope that Nagato will somehow overcome Kabutos control over him. But from the looks of it, it seems there will be another epic battle between Nagato and Bee Naruto team. I have a feeling that Kabuto will end the edo tensei for Itachi. Unless with him loosing control of Itachi he might have also lost control to end it.
Anyway can't wait till next weeks chapter, I also send my hellos to all of you who posted here when I did. It's good to see that a lot of the arguing and fighting has stopped. Any thoughts or opinions on what I think of the situation are welcome?
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a strange idea just popped up in my mind. notice how nagato stops draining chakra when 8 tails mode is gone. maybe he is using whatever technique akatsuki uses to extract tailed beasts. so here's my thoughts:
if it is true that that technique extracts tailed beast chakra then and puts it into another being's body, then that also proves that tailed beasts are just masses of chakra like some other people might have said. if that is the case, nagato might have possibly extracted the eight tails out of bee and might be forcing it into naruto so that he may be stronger and maybe because he thinks naruto is more capable of controlling it. that would also probably explain why nagato appears young now because he sucked out an excessive amount of chakra and is now giving it to naruto.
the only flaw here is the fact that it took long extract the other tailed beasts.
smart idea, no?
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cont from 142
oh yeah i just noticed another flaw.
bee would die that way.
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@140
Thanks a lot. You're right about the Senju powers completing the Uchiha powers, what i find funny is that it doesn't seem to work the other way around. I mean it seems to boost ocular powers but that's it. I guess it all relates to TES and might to bring peace
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Your idea is kinda funny lol. Nagato's bein controlled and do not act of his free will. + He wouldn't kill the 8 tailed beast just to power up naruto...this sound crazy.
Nah, Nagato's mind is vanished at the end of the chapter and it's kabuto will. He also said we wanted to keep the bijuus for him so i guess he is trying to capture them. I doubt Itachi will just sit on his ass and let him do it.
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@ 142 143
and nagato has been striped from his emotions by kabuto, just before he attacked bee.
I dont think kabuto wants to make naruto more powerful. Kabuto wants the eye in the crow.
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@ 140
From some of the previous episodes it seems that Hashiramas chakras were very special and unique. In other words whoever tries to take those chakras or Dna would also have to be unique in the sense that they would have to be somewhat compatible.
Orochimaru experimented on hundreds of children and they all died except Captain Yamato. Danzo was another failed experiment. We all seen what happened to him when he tried to control hashiramas chakra. I think that Shisui was a special case same as Yamato and possibly Tobi/Madara. from the looks of it he managed to create Zetsu and also give himself a Zetsu clone body. That's probably why he was so pissed when Nagato used the reviving jutsu on Konohas dead rather than Tobi/Madara. He was hoping to get his original body back. Which brings me also to the opinion that it was madaras body that was in that 6th coffin of Kabutos.
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Kabuto is only for Kabuto. He wants the 8 and 9 tails for himself, and now that he knows about Shisuis eye he wants to capture Naruto even more. He somehow thinks that if he has the 8 and 9 tails in his hands he will be able to control Tobi/ Madara as well. With the eye in his posession as well, Kabuto would be unstoppable.
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Anybody noticed that Itatchi seems to be bleeding out of his left eye as soon as the crow activates or is it tears? - If he his bleeding it would mean he certaily is out of Edo Tensei for good, wouldn't it? Edo Tenseis can't bleed as far as I know ...
I actually don't think Kabuto took full control of Nagato, I still hope my theory is true and Edo Tenseis with their will can use attacks / actions by themselves. So, as far as my theory goes Nagato could be taking actions to free himself from Edo Tensei, too. Naturally, under the cover of "attacks" on Bee and Naruto. See my comments 61 and 86...
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@64 your input is as welcome as anyone elses, would you be so kind as to give the reader some breathing air perhaps divide, it up abit i read everything but tbh.
I felt like i had to read it again, and decided not too.
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no
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if kabuto erased nagato's emotions, then that doesn't explain why his eyes regained colour.
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@114, that's not a weakness in that sense, just the discovery of an even more powerful technique.
Example you could say that a weakness of western boxing is that the boxer is unfamiliar with kicking techniques and cant' fight well against kick-fighters.
You wouldn't say that a weakness of boxing is that punches can be blocked.
QED
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@64
I don't think its very respectful what you write. Even, if it's just characters of a manga, I don't think its acceptable to write about it like that, or maybe you should rather read something other than Naruto.
I just this who ever wrote 64 should seriously think about what they just wrote.
Nothing personal against the writer just a little ethic and moral imput.
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I still feel like there are quite some gaps in the story around the uchiha massacre.
According to itachi, madara was around, before the uchiha massacre. Itachi approached him. Nobody noticed his presence but itachi did.
Itachi tells how madara has helped in killing the clan.
Yet madara didnt got his hands on shisui his eyes? Eyes that he wanted to have. He couldnt kill shisui?
Itachi and shisui were to dangerous to him?
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Haha I bet Naruto & Bee gets killed by Nagato and Zombie Itachi kills Nagato and ends up owning Kabuto & Madara(Tobi) and then he gives his little brother an ass whooping like hes never had before. Then End of manga.
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awesome chapter, howevere now i wanna know if itachi jutsu, was meant to give life to the crow inside of naruto.
Trew the whole, Yin–Yang Release that he used Yin to make his genjutsu take form, and then used naruto's Yang to make his fantasies reality.
And there for giving life to the crow.
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@Meowmeow
I think the incident with Shisui although it seems to be just a day or so before the massacre was quite some time earlier. As it's always flash backs from Sasuke or Madara (we can't really trust Madara's representation) we don't really have a timeline, do we? - I would assume that if Itachi did massacre the clan indeed, it would be quite probable that the death of Shisui and his request to Itatichi convinced him to go through with the massacre, so he would approach Madara afterwards, wouldn't he?
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@149
mistake by kishi maybe.
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meow i would asume, some explination will come, cause all we saw was shisui, quite damaged and we know he propperly already used hes jutsu to escape, i jutsu who has been shown to work on ms, he could have used it on madara.
And then have been weakened enough, for danzo to take hes eye, after all we dont know yet, and then escaped whit hes body flicker technic.
wich would also mean, itachi didnt nessarely kill shisui.
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# 159
shisui dies a few days before the massacre, the manga shows that in the chapters about the life of itachi and sasuke and the konoha police who comes at their door.
Approaching madara is probably afterwards yes, like you say, but i assumed madara was around near the village when shisui was alive.
I suppose he didnt just happen to appear near or in the village right after shisui died.
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problem is we only know, minato side of the attack on konoha, and now we got some more of Itachis info, but we are still lacking so much knowledge.
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@162 yeah he must have been somewhere, i hope we get some clues
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@53
shisui is not more powerful than itachi..he had a more powerful technique..if shisui was so strong how did danzo manage to take his eye by force, which would have been before danzo had iznagi and shisuis 2nd best tech.
At least we know y tobi wanted shisuis eyes so bad. Tobi is like like a mangekyou tech collecter, if he was able to get shisuis eye he would truly be invincible..danzos sacrifice now has more meaning when u think of it that way.
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kabuto already said he cannot summon shisui, however if he is able to get access to the eye in the crow he will.
is it me or does it seem like that crow got a lot bigger than wen itachi first forced it down narutos mouth.. its been sharing ramen with the frog key.
on itachi...i think he is still an edo, but not bound under kabutos control..basically he will crumble wen kabuto is defeated, not killed..remeber all someone has to do is find kabuto and genjutsu him into endind the tech..likely this will be sasuke with his new ems eyes, maybe tobi..Or maybe itachi will help the alliance throughout the war, and when the eventual sasuke redemption comes to pass he will fade. I also want to see nagato sumhow break out of the edo tensei that would be further epicness.
@98
im glad sum1 spotted this..i thought it was a mistranslation but ive read other versions an it makes the distinction clear..what does this entail for naruto? will his soul or the kyuubis get sucked out? damn kishi no manga nx week.
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i think 10 years is a good price for using that jutsu as it is beyond hax...all the ms techs are pretty hax in my opinion but at least they do have very bad effects; eye bleeding, extreme fatigue, eyes losing light and eventual blindness or in izanagis case instant blindness.
these guys refuse to let hashirama rest in peace man.
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im hoping the crow isnt just a genjutsu but actualy alive, would make for a awesome new summon for naruto,
like he could use for info gathering in combat.
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hashirama his chakra, shortens the time it takes for shisui his super genjutsu to be used again.
Danzo said he cant use it several times a day. Implying once a day at least.
Danzo had acces to activating shisui his super ms genjutsu it seems.
If he had, than he is a huge dumbass seriously.
Hmmm shall i use my super leet genjutsu on madara or for izanagi. Naah lets take a hostage first.
No sharingans left, no ninjutsu useable with his one arm, hashirama his dna arm gone (izanagi still possible?) and a chest wound(clash were he expected to have one eye left).
Izanagi will not bring him back to full health, so he will still be wounded and fu.cked up after he stopped an attack with izanagi.
Izanagi is obviously a bad choice in his situation.
What good will 1 arm, no sharingans, and a chest wound do for him? Izanagi would just slow his execution down.
He should have used the super leet genjutsu straight away without any hesitation.
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Hashirama chakra + shisui eye=super beyond hax every day hax xD.
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@165 this is pure speculation, the manga didn't say Danzo took Shisui's eye by force. Why couldn't he have given it up voluntarily?
@167 Danzo had already used Shisui's eye that day and was waiting for it to recover. H used Izanangi, sacrificing his other sharingans, to buy time for the eye to recover, so he could use it again.
He failed.
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imagine guys, that sharningan of shishu activate on one of naruto's eyes. it would be awesome.
I also think after fighting nagato, eventually nagato will cancel the control his uneder and the last moment nagato will give something to naruto to protect the ninja world.
What to do guys think kabuto's thinking right now that he knows where the shushu of uchihas eye lays with in naruto?
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@ 168
i was talking about when shisui his eye was ready again.
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i don't know how much of a big help will shisui's eye would be for naruto? when sauske uses EMS, you don't expect sauske to roll over with shisui's genjutsu. it would be lame. or sauske being controlled by force to protect konoha. that's not reality. something else will happen for sure. maybe naruto will lose shisui's eye to someone.
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@165
wait, there's no manga next week? how do u know this?
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAawsome chapter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@168
http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/65686308/12
i supose shisui could have given danzo the eye. but it seems like shisui TRUSTED itachi which is why he gave him the eye and itachi says ''danzo had already taken one eye''..admittedly your right and shisui could have been complying with danzo, i just think its more likely of danzos character to have taken it by force..I think it all hinges on shisuis stance about the the uchiha coup
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probably..kabuto is already trying to take the eye and once tobi learns shisui has an eye out there i assume he will wont it aswel.
@172
had to read this weeks chap many times with different translations..on one of them it said 'no shounen jump nx week'...this always happens after something monumental. kishi times his best chapters for when there will be a 2 week break.
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Based on what Itachi said, that jutsu is the power of Shishuis MS which takes 10 years to recharge unless the holder of the eyes have Hashirama's power.
Since the eyes were implanted in the crow then that jutsu can't be used on Sasuke until 10 years. It doesn't matter that Naruto is Senju because the eyes are in the crow and not in Naruto. Itachi said 'that WAS his plan' which suggests that the initial plan was ruined.
It would be too cheap if the crow could manipulate Sasuke to be 'good' or cause memory loss so he would forget what Madara told him. I'm not even sure if it would work if his initial plan was still in play. I mean, think about it, isn't EMS supposed to be far stronger than MS? There must also be some limit to the number of times a justu like that could be used without going blind. Itachi said that the MS is gone and I believe it was a one time thing because then Naruto vs Sasuke would be lame!
I mean, imagine this:
Sasuke: Die Naruto!! Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan!
Naruto: Ghaaaw!
(Naruto seems to be choking. A crow flies out of his mouth towards Sasuke and uses Koto Amatsukami.)
Sasuke: Umm.... What are we fighting for again???
Naruto:!!!!
Sasuke: Where am I..???
Naruto thinks to himself: He doesn't seem to remember a thing. It must be that crow!!!
Naruto: Let's be friends and go to Ichiraku's and eat Ramen!!
Sasuke: Ok... but only if you're buying.
LOL
That would be so stupid. That's why that jutsu can't be used on Sasuke. I want to see Naruto fighting Sasuke with his own skill.
On another note, I think that Itachi, Bee and Naruto have a big battle ahead of them. Actually, Kabuto may send Itachi back from where he came by releasing his jutsu. It seems that Kabuto has taken full control of Nagato. Hence, the change in eye color and the reason why he didn't warn Naruto and Bee that he was about to attack. He is now restored by absorbing bijuu chakra. Awsomeness!
Anyways, awesome chapter by Kishi. This chapter raises alot of questions about the MS, Shishui, Danzo, the Uchiha clan etc. Can't wait to read more comments and predictions. Keep posting them guys!
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Here is what I think is gonna happen. In the middle of naruto and sasuke fight, shisui genjustsu activates and turns sasuke to the good aide. Then, in the middle of naruto and assume vs madara, madara tells sasuke that the only reason he turned good is because of a genjustu that his "best friend" put on him. After sasuke realizes this, naruto thinks that sasuke will be angry and turn on naruto, but just then, sasuke decides that had madara not influenced him, he would have returned to konoha anyway and that it's what his brother would have wanted and continues to fight madara alongside naruto. Comment and tell me what ya think!
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From176 sorry I meant naruto and sasuke vs madara
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Kabuto isn't trying to kill the crow. He is going to try to steal the crow's eye to revive Shisui!
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It looks like Naruto's soul is being sucked out there on that last page. Either Bee or Itachi will intervene, or Naruto dies. Then somehow Nagato returns back to himself somehow releasing Kabutos control over him and using that revival jutsu again to bring Naruto back to life.
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I think Kabuto will have a little trouble getting Shisui's eye because look at page 1 isn't that Tobi.
http://narutoverse.org/Naruto/550/01/
the Explainer
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i dont realy get why kishi would jump a week, does anyone know iff itll be a double chapter, cause if im not mistaken hes doing fillers atm for the anime not to cattch up.
aint it a decision to take a week of sounds wierd to me
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@178
that would mean the crow is real tho, prolly like 158 has predicted
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The greatest genjutsu user - Kishi. He made us read Naruto.
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@179
hehe u got a point, it could be a clone tho tada PUFF!
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only way to persvade sasuke to change sides, would be to use shisuis jutsu, hes brother persvasion, or the death of the remaining to elders.
Unless Sasuke has been playing Madara
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@180 interesting observation i didnt notice that all, and i actualy think your right.
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@180 i think its bee, he has that scarf like madara also does.
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551 prediction.
Nagato is using human path sucking Narutos soul out.Meanwhile bee is picking himself up from the preta path Nagato used on him.
Bee: Naruto look out.
Itachi: Amaterasu
As the black flames head towards Nagato
Nagato: shinra tensei.
The black flames get dipursed. Helplessly Itachi and Bee watch Narutos soul leave his body, and Naruto dies.
Bee: "Naruto" AHHHH
Bee goes into 8 tails mini mode and attacks Nagato wiith everything he has. Nagato negates bees jutsu, But while Nagato is doing this Itachi attacks with mega shuriken jutsu.
Nagato: shinra tensei
Itachi: Tsukyomi
Catching Nagato in his genjutsu, with this he uses it to overwrite Nagatos edo tensei.
Nagato: Thank god Itachi that you were able to catch me in your genjutsu.
Itachi: Pls Nagato you have to bring Naruto back to life before the nine tails leaves his body.
Nagato:Reviving Jutsu
Bee:Trying not to be formal, but you people ai'nt normal. But you brought back my friend so we'll call it the end.
Naruto: What happened
Itachi: Your soul was....
Both Nagato and Itachis' coffins come up and engulf them. Kabuto has ended their edo tensei.
Kabuto: I guess it's time I pay the jinchurikis a personal visit myself.
End 552 The snake vs the jinchurikis.
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@181
It's not the first time Kishi does this and it won't be the last. Also since I've been reading this manga weekly (about 4 years)I have never seen an instance where they did a double chapter after missing a week. I've seen double episode on the anime, but never double chapter on the manga.
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It's clear! Nagato also escape Edo Tensei by transferring his soul to Naruto, so there is a posibility of Naruto Having a Rinnegan or Nagato Tansferring the six path powers to Naruto. Edo Tensei Traps the soul within a new body plus the dna of the summon making him controllable by Kabuto, Kabuto eat more than he could chew by trying control this 2 elite ninja's..
Itachi never kill Shishui, so it was all planned by him & Shishui to look like it was suicide.
cant wait for the next chapter..
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@ 180
It could be, but I think it's bee and those are his swords behind him.
Tobi was together with all of the previous jinchurikis as his 6 paths. That being the case Kabuto would probably know where he is from those edo tensei guys that madara made into the 6 paths.
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Its clear Nagato esacpe edo tensei by transfering his soul to Naruto..
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Maybe shisui gave his remainding sharingan to itachi while he was still alive.in that way maybe achiving ms is different...
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@188
Kabuto is not strong enough to face bee and naruto buti do see him useing he other trump card
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Ok and to everyone that says it will take years it would be cool for a time skip, but if you look back when danzo was using shisoui's eye he said it would take just a little longer until he can use it again and he just had left the kage summit where he was controlling mifune etc. And naruto is getting more badass ugh! epic!!
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I see naruto becoming some sort of sage soon...with ocular powers
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If not ocular powers then some extreme wind release like cyclone no jutso
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Or maybe some real nice wind manipulation technique where he can do anything with the wind
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to
grafreak
again with that crap?
wake up
naruto wont have rinnegan
besides
doubt anyone would like to be possesed by other just for power
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KOTO AMATSUKAMI = Inception!!
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