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Siegfried said...

First hehe :D



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TnTMobius said...

Second lol



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TheDarkPrince said...

danzo vs mifune! sounds like a good contest...



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Anonymous said...

5 jejeje



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Anonymous said...

no 4 better



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TnTMobius said...

I wonder what dan's

'' Ghost transformation technique '' is :'D



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Meowmeow said...

:(.
Katou Dan :(.
I hoped to read Senju Dan, Hatake Dan, or Uzumaki Dan.

This ghosttransformation technique of his could be really interesting.

I dont know what it is but it sounds really ironic, GHOST TRANSFORMATION, when you are allready DEAD lol.



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Anonymous said...

7th ^^,

I guess Kankuro isn't that stupid, he's got hit by poison once, this time he may have brought some antidote probably...



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Anonymous said...

Next chapter:

Shikamaru's talk no jutsu...
Choza finishing up Dan for good...
Elder Chiyo Vs. Kankuro

What about the other two Edo Tensei? and Naruto? >.<



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Anonymous said...

Nice! 10?



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king shareef said...

11th. not bad



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Meowmeow said...

Hanzo: Shut your trap puppet hag, i am trying to concentrate.
Chiyo: Why dont you plug up that snorkel y'old fart.

These parts make me smile :).



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Siegfried said...

Cant wait to see Mifune vs Hanzo that fight will be epic!!!
Also my guess for next chap is that Shikamaru will start his talk no jutsu but when it looks like its gonna work maybe Kabuto will make Asumas controll stronger like he did with Zabuza and Haku as to make Ino-Shika-Chou go all out on their former sensei



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1000 slika said...

not bad at last we will see Mifune in action but in the next chapter ..... Kakashi is close he will join the fight when he seal the seven swordsman ... then we will see a group kages in action and then maybe naruto and sasuke...so Ten Ten will become user off banana flame...hahaha



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jonathan said...

fkg good chapter props !!!!!



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Andres said...

16 COlombiaaaaa



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0verl0rd said...

16 yay



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Anonymous said...

ot much happened. All preparations for the following chapters. 1-2 chapters on Asuma, 1-2 chapters on Dan, 2-3 chapters on Kakazu, Hanzou versus Mifune would be another 1-2 chapters, and back to Kakashi.

After all that, Kishimoto would be putting some pages of Madara and the Banana Leaf Fan, Sasuke and black Zetsu, Naruto's training progress, Gaara and the 4 kages, white Zetsu chasing the feudal lords, and life at Konohakagure.

Obviously, they'll all be mixed up in the coming chapters.

Damn, it is tiring to plot out all of these.

By the way, Sakura would battle the old lady from Suna. She'll praise Sakura for the progress in her training, That would be the end of her.


On another point with edo tensei, with the souls released from the original summon live Sai's brother and Sasori, could they come back since their souls are free to roam and Kabuto certainly proved that he has their DNA. Would he be able to summon them again to give us some info on Sai and what happened to Sasori and Chiyo-sama.


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Anonymous said...

wonder what's the ghost transformation jutsu all about.. ok chapter, getting a bit annoyed with the 2 chapter fights tho, nothing is really happening...



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0verl0rd said...

Kakuzu does not necessarily need the 5 hearts to be put down in order to be defeated, he needs his hearts destroyed so he can be weak for the sealing.
The Sage's treasures, 3 of them , are now useless with the rope sealed. Darui's chakra reserves are not bad at all, he's still holding on to the sword and the gourd and he's going for Kakuzu now.



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Anonymous said...

Damn Kishimoto turned it into Star Wars (fighting with unknown masked man, fighting father between son and the moon reference as a "death star")MEETS Land of the Dead (Zombie white Zetsu and edo tensei summons) MEETS Band of Brothers meets (no pauses of action from all fronts of battle.

Be it in the front lines to the command post.) MEETS any typical children movie regarding having powers and using them for good with Naruto training to get stronger while others fight for the duration of his training.

Obviously he'll jump right in when everyone is mashed up and lying half-dead to come to the rescue.


Oh yeah, UTP the movie references are for you since you love watching them.

I guess, I had state the obvious plot lines since it is early in the discussion.

A question though on the banana leaf fan, what the hell does it do? Madara has wind element like Danzo, Asuma, Naruto and Gaara's sister too? Or is it something that combines all Sot6P's treasures into one. Remember the ending to the first set of 220 Naruto animes?


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sheazy16 said...

top 25. why the hell is madara wasting zetzus like that i demand to know his plan!



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Anonymous said...

If Madara had the Banana Leaf fan from the his battle with Shodai Hokage. Madara also controlled the 9-tailed fox then and we could assume that Kinkaku and Ginkaku were his side kicks.

However this does not match Raikage's explanation to Tsunade-sama regarding all the treasures were held in his hidden village.

Further more he keeps repeating that no one from Akatsuki came from them. Then how did Madara got a hold of the "fan"?

Regarding the ghost transformation jutsu, we'll have to see since it was never presented or mentioned in the past. All assumption could lead to what the jutsu is named. Henge in terms of turing oneself into a ghost? Pretty much what the jutsu is named for unless there is some other cool tricks Tsunade would explain to Shikaku to relay to the battlefield.

Poison gas did not affect Mifune? Kishimoto-sama please explain.

To sum up, we need to know why the white Zetsu are standing up and getting ready for round 2.


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sheazy16 said...

@ jonathan
u go to ncu



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Anonymous said...

@ sheazy16

Look Zetsu was Madara's original plan in bringing war to the 5 great nations. I do not think they are that weak. Try to put yourself in his shoes, will you go in battle when 10 Zetsu could be taken down by 1 shinobi or samurai.

He always has hidden agendas. It might be a distraction to get the 8 and 9 tailed beasts under the alliance forces. Remember he could travel quietly and unannounced. Even Sasuke's hand picked chakra sensor was amazed and puzzled how Madara/Tobi suddenly appeared when Team Hawk (this sounds like the Twilight movie series in having team Naruto and Team Sasuke. Now, I made myself laugh at that thought.)

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Anyway, why did he named himself "Tobi"?



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Anonymous said...

Just got to love how Shikamaru just said Choji is still "fat" without saying the taboo word for him.

In addition, Ino is holding the fort down in the team. Got to appreciate how she commands the 2.

Which reminds me of how Sakura should act. Not always cry and have self doubts in dealing with Sasuke and Naruto. When will she turn the corner for the sake of those 2? Will she be allowed to by Kishimoto-sama to do that transition?

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This is a unrelated and perverted observation. Why is it there is no genin team from Konoha who has 1 male dominant and 2 women followers? The 2 would be groveling over him. For example if Sasuke is teamed up with Ino and Sakura or Naruto with Sakura and Hinata.

Kishimoto obviously does not care on being concerned for younger readers since Jiraya was so perverted and with Naruto's harem multiple shadow clone jutsu. To add to that Konohamaru and Naruto keep on greeting themselves with a challenge who has the most perverted transformation.

I miss how Naruto giving older folks the nose bleed in the manga. It is a point of relief to the story.

Just like we need now in this manga. A break from all the fights to find a lighter note in the manga.

Maybe back to Konoha where Konohamaru unleashes harem mass shadow clones to inspire the workers rebuilding the hidden village.


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Anonymous said...

This is a good chance for older generation who died and did not get to see how the later generation progress compare to there them. Not to mention the teachers seeing their student how much they have improved and student showing it to teachers how they have improved to please them. Can't wait to get a look at the teachers face when they see know how much their student improved for the sacrifices they made for them.



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Anonymous said...

With Chiyo in appearance to the manga again, would that mean she can teach someone the life transferring jutsu which she performed to Gaara? Will she teach that to Tsunade, Shizune or Sakura?

What her purpose in the battlefield without the scrolls to summon the puppets or even physical puppets at hand? She does not have battle strength nor other jutsu which we have not scene yet other than the puppet control.

Next is would her arms still be like a puppet or in human form? If she was derived from her DNA and her soul, she should have the proper physical arm. Right?

How did Kabuto collected the 4 captured hearts of Kakazu to be fused to him? Unless he was watching the whole battle and picked up some pieces of Kakazu's DNA and 4 other shinobi hearts of Kakazu.

How did Kabuto get a DNA sample from Kakazu when he was still alive having the 5 hearts?

This goes to show how many unknowns there are in Kabuto's character.

This twists in edo tensei jutsu is really out of control. Imagine Kabuto controlling that many great shinobis telepathically. It seems like a form of Nagato's 6 Pain and him controlling at the background.

We have not seen the 3rd Kazekage yet as a form of edo tensei summon. Same goes with Yahiko and Konan being pawns of Kabuto and Madara.

Nagato and Itachi would be meeting Naruto at some point. Naruto would say that he has decided on how would he stop Sasuke without killing him.

For Nagato, he will have the resolve that Naruto has not changed one bit like the character in Jiraya's book.


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Meowmeow said...

@ genin of the 4th ninja war 28

Kakuzu got his hearts just from shinobi on the current battlefield. In this very chapter he takes his fifth heart from a shinobi of the shinobi alliance.
He was summoned with tedo tensei and one heart only. his own.

the hearts do not serve the same purpose anymore though, since kakuzu is immortal now.
The main purpose left of the hearts is to increase the amount of different elements he can use.

about chiyo.
What if she uses lifetransfer technique on someone now?
Than she is still gone, even as edo tensei or she can repeatedly use it now? Repeatedly use it would be a bit to much i think, to good.



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Anonymous said...

30 not bad...



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Anonymous said...

@18
everything u listed is why this arc has been so shit...there have been moments of epicness but they have been smothered by the fact that here is way too much going on and way too many characters....
wudnt put it past kakuzu to somehow summon hidan



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Meowmeow said...

@ 31

Lets hope so. Hidan is one of the most funniest characters in the naruto series.



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Anonymous said...

Chiyo: Iam gonna play dead and embarass them good !!
that line makes me LOL much :)
And cant wait to see Mifune in action....


Peace:)



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Anonymous said...

hidans return cud save this arc of the shitness so far



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Anonymous said...

wonder if chiyo could revive nagato and itachi if the summoner doesnt care or order her to do so?



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azrull said...

Hidan might be return if black zetsu found him
Hidan still life..he just burried alive by shikamaru..

for ino-chou-shika will fight asuma in a short time..asuma will release it self from Kabuto..

regarding mifune vs hanzo, the fights will be epic..

still wondering about kakashi fights over 7 swordsmen..



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Anonymous said...

wonder if chiyo could revive nagato and itachi if the summoner doesnt care or order her to do so?



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Anonymous said...

but coul mifune be really at hanzos level?

mifune attacked sasuke at his bad condition and couldnt do anything to stop him, he even gave congratulations to sauske when he stopped his attak like nothing


danzo is the man who kicked jiraiya,orochimaru and tsunades ass when they were at their age prime(dont knoe if jiraiya got sage mode back then)



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Anonymous said...

@38 I think you meant "hanzo"...



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Anonymous said...

wow..i think ten ten will be the new wielder of 5 great treasure banana palm fan....that fucking awesome....then she use that to deal whit kakuzu....5 element vs 5 element...can"t wait that batle....



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Anonymous said...

http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/41199623/4

I like how shikamaru just starts talking while kakuzu is killing that ninja, rofl.



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Anonymous said...

@ Meowmoew

We can put that rational and logic forward. However there is a case when on the earlier chapters that he already had the 4 masks attached to him which represents the 4 other hearts aside from his own.

In previous showing of his powers in the earlier chapters and in anime, the hearts detach or reattaches themselves to the main body. The masks represents the hearts if you want to follow on logic.

Edo tensei includes DNA which could mean a map of the person at that stage in time. The soul also has that. With both those points, an Edo Tensei summon should not learn new techniques or acquire chakra new after they were dead.

Let us say, Kabuto got hold of Kinkaku's DNA after he died. So within his body lies the DNA map with Kinkaku's fusing with the kyubi chakra.

On the other hand we have Kakazu who has 4 other hearts from 4 different people. So the hearts DNA would be different from Kakazu's.

Also there should be a jutsu ceremony in fusing with other peoples hearts, taking their jutsu and chakra as Kakazu's own body. It would take him time. We can agree to disagree on a jutsu ritual for taking the hearts.

Which points to the fact he is dead already. So why take on other living hearts? If it is for the elemental jutsus then I explained my case with my earlier statements of him having those masks (which represent the hearts of other shinobis) already with him when Kabuto summoned him.


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Anonymous said...

40@
i agree and u..its time for ten ten show up...



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Anonymous said...

i miss already shinrei tensei.....how bad ass pain destroy entire konoha in one shoot...if i kabuto..i just sent pain to take down alliance..SHINREI TENSEIIIIIIIII...PUNISHMENT FROM THE GOD...AHAHAHAHA



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Anonymous said...

REALLY AGREE THATS.....PAIN IS FUCKING AWESOME.....TIME TO PAIN RULE NOW...



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Anonymous said...

PAIN PRETTY DAMN ASS....I LIKE 6 PAIN TECH..HALA PAIN....



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Anonymous said...

totally agreeeee! Nagato can take on all of them with one shinrei tensei



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SkyRaz said...

@29
Yeah and the his jutsu requires hearts.The masks have a heart of their.He can increase his range with the masks.



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Kage no ō said...

Naruto Timeline (rev)

1906
• Madara and Hashirama were born
• Ginkaku and Kinkaku were born

1916
• Onoki is born

1924-26
• Madara (18 - 20) unlocks his MS
• Kakuzu was born (1924)

1926-30
• Madara (20 - 24) obtains his brothers eyes (EMS)
• Kinkaku and Ginkaku (20 - 24)spent two weeks within Kyubi’s stomach, surviving by eating the chakra drenched meat

1936
• Founding of Konoha – Madara (30), Hashirama (30)
• Hashirama is named First Hokage

1937-38
• Madara (31-32) challenges Hashirama (31-32) and fails

1938-40
• Ambush of 2nd Hokage (27 - 29) and 2nd Raikage by Kinkaku and Ginkaku (32 - 34?)

1943
• Chiyo is born

1944
• Hiruzen and Danzo are born

1960-65
• 1st Great Ninja War
• Shodaime Hokage (54-59) dies in battle
• Sarutobi (16-21) named Third Hokage
• Nidaime Hokage (49-54) dies in battle with Cloud Master Bounty Hunters (Kinkaku Force? (Twins death may be related)
• Jiraiya and Ororchimaru were born (1962)

1975
• Minato , Kushina and Shikaku were born
• Jiraiya (13) learns of his destiny

1979
• Nagato is born

1980
• Jiraiya (18) begins his journey

1981
• Killer B is born

1983-89
• 2nd Great Ninja War
• Uzushiogakure was destroyed (1986)
• Kakashi was born (1986)
• Killer B is the next Jinchuriki for his village Kumogakure
• Kushina becomes the 2nd Jinchuriki for Konoha
• A is named the 4th Raikage
• Jiraiya (21-27) trains Nagato (7-10), Konan, and Yahiko for three years (1986-89)

1990
• Yamato is born – Orochimaru (28) experiments with Shodaime’s DNA on babies
• Anko was born

1993
• Kabuto was born

1997-99
• 3rd Great Ninja War
• Yahiko (18-20) dies/Nagato (18-20) becomes Pain
• Danzo (53-55) is missing his right eye

2000
• Attack on Konoha
• Naruto is born/Parents die (Kushina and Minato-25)
• Sasuke is born/Itachi is 5
• Kakashi is 14
• 3rd Hokage is 56

2002-03
• Anko is given the curse mark and the only one of ten to survive
• Orochimaru is confronted by 3rd Hokage and leaves Konoha

2006
• Last meeting all Akatsuki members including Orochimaru (44) attended

2008
• Itachi (13) seeks out Madara
• Uchiha Massacre
• Sasuke/Naruto are 8
• Kisame is 24
• Nagato is 28

2012
• Orochimaru (50) attacks Konoha/Kills 3rd Hokage
• Sasuke (12) wins the battle against Naruto (12) and leaves Konoha to seek power from Orochimaru

2016-17
• Tsuchikage turns 100
• Sasori (35), Chiyo (73), Asuma (31), Hidan (22), Kakuzu (91), Deidara (19), Jiraiya (54), Orochimaru (54), Itachi (21), Nagato (36), Kisame (32), Danzo (72) and Konan are killed, die in battle or incapacitated
• Kabuto incorporates Orochimaru’s DNA into himself
• Tobi declares the 4th Great Ninja War

2017
• Naruto (16) trains with Killer B (35)
• Sasuke (16) maxes out his MS defeating Danzo to have Itachis’ eyes implanted.
• Sasuke’s fight with Naruto pushes him to awaken his EMS.
• Asuma’s child is born.


*Any thoughts or suggestions?*

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SkyRaz said...

@49,BowDown
This timeline is a new one ,compact than the last time.
1936,37,38
Now when I was watching anime ,Itachi mentioned Madar fought Harisrama of senju over the village affairs ,the one who will be called shodai hokage.So technically Kage didnt exist in 36.
1960-65
Orachimaru left konoha before Nine tails attack.This is based on theory that since jiraya wasnt in konoha ,he was pursuing Orochimaru and akatsuki.
It's Kinkaku Force,Two different translators translate it as master bounty hunters and Golder horn squad(Kinkaku force)
2016-17
100 is a bit too much for tsuchikage.70-75 tops.At 100 you look like that sand or mist elder.



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Anonymous said...

DOES TENTEN HAVE THE BANANA FAN?



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Anonymous said...

dont you think is a bit strange that zetsu knows many thinhs about tobi/madara?

he even knows that sasuke must wait a more bit of time o before he gets used to ems
i wonder

maybe tobi is madara after all
but what bothers me is

that if zetsu might be izuna



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Anonymous said...

i wonder

maybe tobi is sasukes father who just used izanagi back then when itachi killed his parents

he was very interested abou itachi and his son

he also wasnt present during kyubi attack

hahahha, it would be interesrting that itachi reveals that it was actually tobi who killed his parents and he arrived late

then when sasuke attacks tobi, sasuke will say

you killed my father

and tobi removes the mask and says

no sasuke, i am your father



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Anonymous said...

Kishi Made it a Mystery
Like
"Tobito"
Or
Obito Jumbled up
Well we will have to figure this mystery out in the late chapters



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Anonymous said...

Lol Nice ideas i wish that would happen but it would make it MUCH more complicated



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Anonymous said...

@ 54

What about a shortened version of Tobirama? Tobi.

It does not mean he is a Senju or he could be.


@53

That is why Star Wars movie is so relevant. Even the moon comparisons to the death star.

Asian mythology on the tailed beasts and having warrior clans is so rich in detail too. Which gives Naruto the sense of parody to our current issues today.


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Anonymous said...

@54,56
Come on guys tobi-obito-tobirama-sarutobi-obi wan is done so many times ,it's tiring now.



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Anonymous said...

@ 57

Tiring for us too unless we get a visual and confirmed presentation from Kishimoto. Madara/Tobi speaks in the 3rd person which means he is either vein or he is not who people assume he is.

On addition, the name Madara has a stigma added to it which he wants to hide. If Tobi is really Madara.

This is a discussion and prediction page none the less.


@ 40 and 51

Ten Ten to wield the 5 treasures of the Sot6P? There are prerequisites to wielding them.

1. Need to have high amount of chakra reserve.
2. Close range fighter
3. You need the "talk no jutsu" for opponents to say the word which could seal them.
4. There will be other conditions to wielding them and we would be informed in the coming chapters.

Ten Ten does not fit on 1-3 prerequisites. None the less we can hope for that to happen.


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Just remembered something else regarding Jiraya. How would he know so much about Akatsuki's movements and plans so much? Does he have a mole inside the group? Is it Itachi? Also why go to Konoha and tell your plans to your opponents?

Itachi did not fight Jiraya when he was with Naruto and try to capture the Kyubi. He was with Kisame. Even though Itachi said something that they will loose the fight, Naruto was not any means troublesome for them to capture. It would only a need to distract Jiraya from guarding Naruto.

However the wait in capturing Naruto and the Kyubi has made dents to Akatsuki's and Madara's plans.

Having saying that, we would not have Naruto manga to read and found something else.


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Anonymous said...

@58
Almost all previous discussions have this topic .At first it's ok.Now it's pain .Tobi is tobi or tobi is madara.Thats it till kishi tells us something else.



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Anonymous said...

The sixth coffin contains MADARA UCHIA .......the masked 1 is just an imposter.......thats why he feared when Kabuto had shown the last coffin.....!
Naruto fan :)



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Anonymous said...

@53 i like that prediction



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Anonymous said...

itachi was still wayyyyyyyyyyy better than sasuke till now in skill n techniques and its usage... doing genjutsu from finger... making seals that were so fast that a sharingan could barely read... even sasuke seemed slow in front of an ailing itachi... he knew almost everything about every1... his knowledge and knowing was more than any other... thats why he gave naruto what he did... knowing the uzumaki clan of his....:) bloddy brilliant this kid was... must have been around 19-22.



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TnTMobius said...

@meowmeow @7

Hahah i was wondering the same thing. Tho he's not realy '' a ghost '' perhaps he can become invicable? like a ghost or can move trough objects? or take over someone's body. I have no idea



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TnTMobius said...

@62 Itachi was stronger then sasuke
Itachi could have bin dead long before sasuke could kill him. Cause itachi was sick and used medicine to live to that day that sasuke could kill him.



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SkyRaz said...

Chiyo's ultimate jutsu baffles everyone ,playing dead.Interestingly if you have a slightest bit of control and have a knowledge of fuinjutsu,can an edo summon seal himself?That would be awesome.
A Ninja vs Samurai.Thats what i have been waiting for since Kage summit.

Now I had actually mentioned long time ago when i used to be anonymous ,possibility of a soul weapon like warcraft's Frostmourne or ashbringer introduced.20 chapter or so later two soul weapons were introduced.
Ironically the alliance of ninja is quite similar to warcraft alliance.
Edo summons are the undead serving Kabuto(Lich King?)
Zetsu are like the full metal alchemist's Mannequin soldiers or like the dude above said clone troopers from star wars.(So shodai hokage was jango fett)

So whats missing from this war.A big badass dragon.



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SkyRaz said...

@62,64
It's not always about strength .Itachi was strong but he was also smart and skilled.He wanted to lose the battle,make it look like sasuke won,free him from orochimaru and protect him from madara uchiha .
I like the theory of itachi secretly working with jiraya.



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Kage no ō said...

@50

Madara challenged the 1st over leadership of the village after Shodaime was named Hokage. (A newly formed village would not go without a leader for too long.)

I had thought Orochimaru left b4 the attack as well, but the filler episodes of Naruto 169 - 173 says Oro left a few years after the attack. The filler takes place during 2012-13 (timeline) and Anko says he left 10yrs prior.

Onoki is closer to 100 than 75. Being 75 would put him at too young an age to battle/fight w/Madara b4 his last battle with Shodaime.


@59
Get over it. 90% of topics have been "beaten to death" but are still going strong. Just be glad I didn't chime in with TES is Tobi. lol

BowDown



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Anonymous said...

when will this zombie fight will over i am sick of it
this is total boring to read

kishi have change this mangas name to "zombi land" istead of "naruto"



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Anonymous said...

YES you are right 68 everyone is sick of this wierd fighting
i think it will be over in 2-3 months



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Anonymous said...

you gota be kiding 2-3 months we have to watch this trash
dead man fight
its all skill we have already seen in older chapters nothing new techniques are not going to pop up



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Anonymous said...

I can't wait to see naruto vs sasuke battle.......



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Anonymous said...

can someone tell me what is summoning animal of uchiha madara??????



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Anonymous said...

someone reply fast...



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Anonymous said...

nice chapter but where the hell are those hosts whom kabuto bring back to life & what about itachi and nagato.
is kabuto is going to use them to learn about sage of six path?....



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Kage no ō said...

Great chapter and episode this week. The Elder and Younger Sons will be introduced soon and shown in better detail than the Manga.

This episode clears up the fact that Ao picked up the color of Shisui's eye not the color of his chakra.

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Anonymous said...

this war needs to experience a slice of jashin's curse......bring back hidan!!!



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TheDarkPrince said...

just watched naruto 201, its been a long time since such a well directed episode came around, I know its no big deal as they already have it outlined by manga, but it takes good efforts to allow viewers to feel the emotions! A must watch!



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Kage no ō said...

Oh, gotta love Tobi's entrance.


Here are a few things I've been chewing over. Any thoughts?

1. When the five villages were formed, more than one clan joined forces to make up that village. So, there would be several bloodlines/clans under one banner leading to possible cross-breeding. As well as members of one clan dispersing themselves among several villages.

With that thinking... what would be your thoughts on the Third Hokage being related to Roushi (4-tails Jinchuriki)and/or his parents were originally from a clan that formed Iwagakure?

2. Naruto's new seal and So6P's "magatama necklace". I believe the "necklace" was originally created to allow So6p to use Sharingan while accessing the Jubi's abilities/chakra.

Now b4 anyone start flinging crap around. Honestly think about it along these lines and give me some feedback.

So6P was born with Sharingan. Jubi has the Rinnegan. So6P gains control and then seals Jubi within himself. Like with Naruto, his original abilities take a backseat to the powers/abilities of the Jubi when using it's chakra. To counter that he creates the necklace.

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TheDarkPrince said...

After not seeing Itachi week after week, I can't help but wonder that Itcahi is indeed the ace up the sleeve of kabuto against tobi. Because long time ago tobi said there was something about himself that Itachi died without realzing, I think tobi is someone Itachi knows really well, but it never occured to him, who tobi really is. Havng said this I wonder how kabuto realized the same thing. Nagato and Itachi are part of something big n the kabuto's plans. I'm sure he didn't summon them just to fight along with other dimwits against shinobi alliance. Both of them are too big a character to be used like that! Anime is really picking up the pace now, as I said earlier, it a very good one! the fight between raikage and sasuke will be epic! What an entrance made by Tobi and Zetsu, for once in the anime they lived upto their character. (I say this because, even though I knew what was going to happen as I've already read the manga, it really gave me the goosebumps!)



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=gotya= said...

Hmmm...this chapter upped the anticipation factor of the upcoming fights.

Great to know that Ten-Ten can finally use the Banana Palm Fan and do something else other than merely summon weapons! :D

Chiyo's dialogues made my day. xD

If Hidan returns somehow, that would be awesome. He was a whacky guy. :D

Atleast one things clear, Kakuzu "refuelled" himself on the battlefield. :P

@ People talking about Chiyo

Chiyo is here to fight. She is not here to train anybody.
She won't revive anyone. If that were so, Tobi would have revived Nagato long time back so that Nagato can use the jutsu Tobi wanted Nagato to use on him.

@ 41

Hehe. Should have tried to save him, shouldn't he? Looks like Shikamaru doesn't care if that ninja dies. ;)

@ BowDown

Whoa! You made all that timeline on your own? I envy you man because I really wish I had as much free-time like you have. :O

I just glanced over it and did notice some discrepancies but it would be too cruel of me to point out the mistakes in a thing that had so much effort put into it. Good show. :)

@ 59

Yes, for me too, Tobi is Tobi till he takes off his mask.

@ 62

I couldn't agree more. Itachi was indeed something else!

@ TnTMobius

Yes, taking over someone or moving through objects would be more like it. Maybe it could also mean all hits go right through him like Tobi. Perhaps that's why Dan was a tough opponent.

Atleast all the above seem better than becoming a ghost and scaring the hell out of everyone and making them run helter-skelter from the battlefield with their tails between their legs.

@ SkyRaz

Actually, we have a big, bad-ass dragon...the Jyuubi!!! :D

@ 70

Hmmmm...perhaps you reason for following Naruto is wrong, then. Just being able to see new techniques shouldn't be the reason. Sometimes, treasures are found in trash. We are getting to know the Ninja world's history here...and maybe something important will pop up soon. I am sure you have other reasons to follow the manga too. Just hold on to them for the time being. :)



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Anonymous said...

The Samurai's Katana is said to be the sharpest cutting tool around for centuries until modern day innovations of the laser and plasma cutters and the modern shaving blade.

This piece of interesting stuff was documented on the History channel .

Thus i was not surprised the way Hanzo's sword just broke on impact with Mifune's Katana.



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Anonymous said...

78 u got it all wrong dude u actually switched the two doujutsu between juubi and so6p
the evil uchihan chakras with tomoes are believed to have been inherited from juubi
rikoudu on the other hand was the wielder of rinnegan which occurred due to will of God just like the case with nagato in the modern era



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0verl0rd said...

@bowdown
Well about roushi, maybe that well be more clear when we get to see him in edo tensei, for the time being there's shortage of info.
On the necklace, i don't have any relevant comments so il stay back, but it's a nice thinking you make.
Now i ask you, do you think Kabuto has some relation to Mitokado Homura from Danzo's past team?



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Anonymous said...

i know the discusions here are about the manga but after seeing eprisode 201 i noticed that AO said he used the byakugan to undo the genjutsu cast on the fourth mizukage yagura so it sudenly crossed my mind that if the sharingan could evolve why couldn't the byakugan do the same thing
furthermore we know for a fact that the byakugan is superior to the sharingan , but if we put the byakugan against the ms i don't se how it could counter amaterasu or susano which are both physical attacks

please share your opinions on this matter



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0verl0rd said...

Tenten will not hold on to the treasures probably, let alone the fan, she does not posess the chakra to do so. She barely uses chakra, she would get killed pretty fast if she held even one of the treasures, not to mention two of the treasures are now useless because the rope is sealed.



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Anonymous said...

naruto all da way



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0verl0rd said...

@84
How exactly Byakugan is better than Sharingan? IMO Byakugan sucks in comparison. Sharigan does almost everything Byakugan does, and grants much more power. Byakugan beats Sharingan only in sight angle and array.



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Kage no ō said...

@80
Two things. One I started the Time-line months ago and have been revising it since. Two, I asked for feedback and suggestions.

To All
Now, when giving feedback, don't assume that your suggestion is automatically correct. I have spent countless hours over the past few months checking and rechecking somethings that didn't seem to fit or contradicted another point. Like when did Oro leave the village, joined Akatsuki and attacked Konoha. Or Anko's age, is she 24 now or was she 24 at the end of Naruto.

My goal is to make this as correct as possible with what little info we have to work with.

@82
No, I didn't get it wrong. Reread the post to see what I asked of you and everyone else. Besides, what you say can be looked at as an assumption.

@83
I'm not sure. I've never thought about that. I'm struggling just thinking of possible connections of the two.

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Skuttler said...

@87
Knock off Sharingan user chakra points .No chakra access ,no jutsu.Just that a byakugan user must get close enough to perform it.Very difficult against shield of amarterasu and susanoo .And it is unknown if Rotation works against Ethreal susanoo weapons.Sharingan is speed but byakugan is scope/range.Sharingan doesnt have a range of 800m.Stand 500m away and use doton or suiton jutsu.If air palm has that much range then we are in for a hell of stalemate.



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Skuttler said...

Homura's Age:72
Kabuto's Age:23
Courtesy Data books
On the other hand
Homura's hobbies: murdering off clans and interest in jinchurikis
Kabuto's hobbies:murdering everyone and interest in jinchurikis
I dont suppose myopia is a kekkai genkai(but that would be awesome and it is supposed to be a joke dont take it on heart)



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Anonymous said...

Kishi, ONE upgrade for Byakugan please!!! Sharingan is getting A LOT! It's not fair! Sharingan for killing siblings, Byakugan for marrying Branch+Main family ^_^?

All Uchiha use fire style jutsu, Hyuga needs to use more the very rarely seen jutsus then use and use less Taijutsu. U know, when you use something good too much, it starts to be less effective...



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Anonymous said...

@91,

I think Neji use wind affinity once or twice... yeah u'r right once or twice lol...

Wind < Fire => Byakugan < (M)Sharingan?



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Anonymous said...

Did Anyone notice Sky Blue byakugan of Ao. Colored byakugan in contrast with pale colors of hyuga.
@75,bowdown
Arent all sharingans red and black so the colour of the sharingan is the color emitted while performing a justu.



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Anonymous said...

@ 87

i was talking about the final stage of the normal sharingan(with 3 tomoe) and the byakugan

as far as i know the
sharingan is capable of:
- seeing the flow of chakra
- recognizing genjutsu and different forms of chakra, though not to the same extent as the Byakugan
- memorizing almost any technique
- inducing a unique brand of hypnosis that involves suggesting actions and thoughts to the opponent through genjutsu cast by simple eye contact
byakugan is capable of:
- near 360º field of vision,
- being able to see through solid objects, and can use a degree of telescopic sight
- the ability to see chakra, chakra flow as well as the chakra circulation system inside the body with great detail
- even if it is transplanted the byagugan can be activated and deactivaded at will(the sharingan is always active)
- the byakugan is activated at birth and all the members of the clan have it(the sharingan is activated under stressful conditions and not all the members of the clan have it)

i meant to say that in a 1 on 1 fight between a 3 tomoe sharingan and a byakugan the byakugan has the edge

what is strange is that we havent seen a clear evolution of the biakugan as oposed to the many evolutions of the sharingan



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Anonymous said...

hinata can see 10 km ahead



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Anonymous said...

How many tomoes are needed to be the Sot6P?

I'll start on this as a question would give everyone the reason for it.


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Kage no ō said...

@93 Anon
You raised a good point that helps with determining which dojutsu So6P originally had. As for what I posted in #75, I didn't clarify my point. My apologies. I was speaking about the difference in what Ao said in chapter 459 pg 14 versus what he said in this episode. I suspected the latter (arm and eye had different colored chakra) and just wanted to point that out.

Now, about So6P and the Jubi's dojutsus... Sharingan to So6P and Rinnegan to Jubi. Why?

Keep in mind...

Only three non-humans (to my knowledge) were controlled by Genjutsu (Sharingan). (Jubi, Kyubi and Manda)
So far, Manda's eyes were the only ones to actually change colors. Chp 363 pg11.(Possibly due to being "alive" - needing sustenance to survive, grows old and die, an actual animal)
Both Bijus' eyes remain the same original color once under Genjutsu (Sharingan).
The Rinnegan doesn't give the owner the ability to use Genjutsu. So, it would not be shown/reflected as/in the Jubi's eye if the Jubi didn't own it to begin with.

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=gotya= said...

Oh man, that was some awesome episode!

Zetsu reminded me of the maniacal, pyscho Joker! Creepy.

Zetsu really feels a league apart in the anime than in the manga!



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Anonymous said...

to be the so6p and also the host of jubi madara needs the rinnegan combined with nine tomoes

thats why sasuke is important

sasuke`s EMS will have either 9 vertices or 9 tomoes, which when combined with madaras rinnegan will create a 9 tomoe rinnegan

with 3 tomoes distributed in each elipse



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Anonymous said...

wow
just saw episode 201

reikage looks like at SSJ2 level

to bad naruto, your biju mode lacks bolts, you are still on SSJ1 level



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Anonymous said...

to Kage no ō said
yea, i thought that sharingan could just control kyubi, but sasuke controlled manda, which means that sharingan can place genjutsu on any creature like the other bijus



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1000 slika said...

On Manda he shade the ring with regular sharingan and all three tomoe stay on the out off ring,but when Madara cast genjutsu on kyubi ,the three tomoe darkens kyubi and they cross in the inner part off ring ,with yubi we have rings with tomoe but with not darknes ,more like shades between the rings....but elder son have spiral eyes and from that eyes become sharingan and maybe byakugan.....rinengan have three ring in one eye so with two eye we have six ring in sharingan we have two ring and six tomoe ,and byakugan have only two ring and i think its a dojutsu off younger son.....and eventually I lost the point of everything I wrote....



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The Teacher said...

I don't think the SO6P even used the sharingan. The sharingan is linked too much to hatred, jealously, pain and revenge.

I think a better theory is that he always used the rinnegan. The manga says that the older son had the eyes of the Sage. My guess is that the older son developed the Sharingan after he chose the path of hatred since he was the son of the host of the juubi. Hence the sharingan comes from the juubi and not actually the rinnegan. It would make sense since the sage was the juubi's host.



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Meowmeow said...

@ genin of the fourth ninja war 42

http://www.mangaday.com/Naruto/530/04/

Look at the 2 upper left pictures, it shows kakuzu taking heart number five.

I am just using the info that the manga provides.



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Anonymous said...

i have a question, why didnt madara just transport naruto inside him, when he already was 1 m beside him in the anime?



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Anonymous said...

I belive that shisu was older brother to Obito btw



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Meowmeow said...

Just some food for thought, why should the juubi have been controlled by genjutsu or sharingan?

Senju Hashirama didnt use any dojutsu and he was capable of controlling all nine bijou. Even if it was in combination with the necklace. That kyuubinaruto sadly enough destroyed when fighting pain.

Uzumaki Kushina could supress the kyuubi with her chakra chains, to the point that it was so enormously supressed that you could seal it in someone.

Killerbee and Yagura, even though they were hosts, had full control over their bijou, and yagura, for as far i know, didnt had any dojutsu either.

Dojutsu doesnt have to be the tool that was used to control juubi.

Rinnegan doesnt show control genjutsu like sharingan, but it also had the ability to control in combination with the chakra rods.

Various threasures or items, like sealing items could also have been used. There are enough options possible that dont include sharingan.

Therefore the Sage of six paths didnt need to have had sharingan. IT can just as well be from the juubi.



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Meowmeow said...

additon to 107

Imagine sage of six paths vs juubi.
Somehow the sage needs to create a situation, where he can seal the juubi in himself.

This can just as well be done without sharingan. If he had a certain item(s) for control, or a style like kushina for supressing (not even control), that alone could help him in the sealing.

Without a doubt the sage gained new abilities as the juubi's host, he changed and maybe he used a different type of control once he became the host, who knows.



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Meowmeow said...

white zetsu sure is a funny guy, gave me a good laugh.
And ssj2 raikage next chapter :P.

Ao his byakugan was way to blue, to thick of a blue in my opinion, almost no white on his eye at all.
Ao his name is blue, i know that, but arent byakugans suppose to be white with a really really light color grey, blue or purple?



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Meowmeow said...

forget my byakugan comment.
There might not be known blue eye byakuganmembers around, but there is actually almost no white in the eye when i checked some pictures from various hyuuga.
Allmost all the famous ones just tend to have light grey eyes which gave a white eye impression.



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SkyRaz said...

Based on the hanare girl's filler episode I have a theory
Dojutsu can be performed by normal eyes but weaving signs and manipulating chakra to eyes is very tough.Plus the user must be very close for accuracy.
Sharingan's tomoes actually help to perform jutsu.
Sharingan based jutsu are on trial and error basis.
When a powerful emotion flows through a body,the sharingan evolves into mangekyou and the jutsu is recorded in brain sue to sharingan's nature.
When Itachi knocked kakashi out with tsukoyomi the sharingan copied a bit of his jutsu.
Kamui is the result of imperfect copying.
On the other hand Itachi etched his jutsu on sasuke's eyes.That explains the reverse eye formation .
The rikoudo sannin had the rinnengan but the juubi alowly corrupted his chakra.The TES carried the juubi chakra taint while TYS had the Rikoudo's body to resist the taint.
The uchiha blood tradition,the bloody mist graduation and the ANBU root training regime are almost the same.Tobi might have started the blood mist to enhance other KG .Plus the seven ninja swords belonged to shodai if that picture is to be believed.So how did it land in mist?



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SkyRaz said...

@110,meowmeow
None of the hyuga member's byakugan light up like christmas candles.They are white or dull violet/blue/grey.Ao has a fog lamp for his eye



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Kage no ō said...

The Sharingan became cursed the moment So6P named TYS his successor.

If the Jubi didn't have the Rinnegan, how/why is it shown in it's eye?

If So6P is the rightful owner, how come his eye don't show a normal Rinnegan?

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SkyRaz said...

@113
The Kage summit is still young ,we will know soon enough.
What I meant by cursed was the chakra corruption with the use of mangekyou abilities.



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Anonymous said...

if raikage vs naruto...who wil win...i bet naruto the winner...coz naruto is more powerfull now then sasuke....raikage can't take down sasuke even lose is arm...so pathetic.....ahahahaha



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Anonymous said...

yeah,totally agre wiht u......naruto the one who beat pain..the leader of akatsuki who posses rinnegan....



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Anonymous said...

its so shame for kage....even they all 5 cann't kill sasuke...what the F U C K....



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Anonymous said...

SEEM LIKE 5 KAGE ALL LOSER....



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Anonymous said...

Come to think of it guys, the So6P can't possess the Sharingan, well if he had, the still wouldn't be able to cast any genjutsu on the biju since it has the nine tomoe Rinnegans already...



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Anonymous said...

the juubi I mean...



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Anonymous said...

@99

The 3 tomoes from the sharinggan and the 6 tomoes in the necklace of Naruto in Kyubi's chakra.

Does that seem connected?

Tobi said that the combination of the 2 bloodlines, Uchiha and Senju would be the Sot6P.

This is not a prediction or anything. Am just stating they might be connected in Kishimoto's story plot.

Studying the value of the numbers of the tomoes.

People say that 9 tomoes would appear in Sasuke's EMS. I would not say it would or not. However all of us could not discount the fact that the 3 tomoes in sharinggan and 6 in Naruto's kyubi-chakra form has something to do with it too.

All of us are predicting something.

We all want to see what we want to see. Addition to that, try alternative options too.

Remember, Madara got his EMS too. Nothing has showed that he had 9 tomoes in his eyes.


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Anonymous said...

why u all so care about rikudo posses saringan or what..tottaly..the rikudo is a losser..even he have control the judi or posses the god power..he a such a losser cant bring peace the shinobi word..u al got it..who care rikudo sannin posses saringan or rinnengan or whatever..still a losser..damn u all



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Anonymous said...

@Meowmeow for post 104

Yeah. I read and saw that. There are conflicts in the drawing or the events. He already had the masks which we can assume had hearts when he was summoned by Kabuto.

Since you brought up http://www.mangaday.com/Naruto/530/04/ which is your evidence.

Let me show you 2 chapters back with Kakazu with 4 masks which represents him having 5 hearts already. Kindly take a look at http://www.mangaday.com/Naruto/528/17/.

However, the hearts are random. It might or could be of element users or not. He's already dead. If he gets hit he would only reconstruct himself. Why does he need the hearts then?

Well the only purpose is the element users. I am assuming this. Then again, he could just kill random people with his sewing technique and natural element affinity.


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Anonymous said...

To add on my 123 post

Look at another point of view. Kakazu stealing hearts are for element affinity or KG users. Also it gives him 5x to be killed in that state.

If he could acquire that without any ritual or sealing jutsu. Then anyone who could learn that process could do the same easily if they had the knowledge of it.

Stealing the hearts and immediately using it in battle is far too easy.

Imagine if he was not presumptuous when he fought Kakashi, Choji, Ino and Shikamaru, Naruto and Yamato in defeating him that easily. He should be still alive.

We either have a dead Kakashi, Choji, Ino, Shikamaru and Yamato. Even probobly a dead Naruto.

Remember he said he lived along Senju Hashirama and Uchiha Madara's time. He knew them and maybe also fought with or against them before the hidden villages were formed. He's part of a hidden village too. So there must be a written down evidence of his powers.


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Anonymous said...

@122

We are here to discuss and maybe predict where the story is going.

It is interesting to find new knowledge in what we read.

So if you just put down people's opinions and calling names like losers. Then let us meet up and I would certainly beat you up into a pulp.


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@Meowmeow 107

I agree with you on all your points of discussion. Well for now until we see an explanation from Kishimot-sama. Job well done.

Remember the Naruto also sealed away the 9-tails in him with a series of gantry pushing the kyubi down inside him. It is like Kushina's chakra chains.

The kyubi also mentioned Sot6P when he was sealed by Naruto. We do not know yet how Naruto acquired such knowledge and technique. Was it during his training with Jiraya or a natural affinity to the Sot6P?

It also could be the sealing key frog given to him by Jiraya which was originally from his father, Minato.

If it was from the seal given by Minato, how would he formulate such a key to seal the kyubi which is based from the Rikudo? If it was from Kushina sealing jutsus who taught Minato. Then she could have just used it too to control the kyubi herself. She could have became a perfect host. Obviously Danzo and everybody else did not know about this.

We should all remember that Kushina might have had not only been a jinchuriki but who could also control the bijuu. Obviously it was not said in the Kage summit.

Certainly Kishimoto leaves him blanks in the story so he could alter somethings in his manga. That is for sure. Every writer would do the same if he wants to have something to write about.


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Anonymous said...

Tobi has Danzou's body. So could Kabuto summon an edo tensei Danzou too?

Like I said before, let Kabuto use edo tensei on the whole Uchiha clan so all of Sasuke's hate would disperse. Maybe it would anger him more. Well who cares let us just enjoy the material.

Well it would work out well since even if the summoner dies. The edo tensei summons goes on. Isn't that just great.

On another note, if Nagato was the 3rd Rikudo. Then he controlled Gedo Mazo which holds all the bijuus inside, exept for the 8 and 9 tails. With his fight with Hanzou, it has immense power of either sucking souls or chakra. Might be even both.

How could one acquire such a summon if you did not have a binding contract with it? Jiraya would not know about Gedo Mazo. Probobly did not teach him that too. So was it Tobi who taught Nagato to control and use Gedo Mazo?

If so, Konan did not know about this since she was unaware of Tobi's true identity. I am assuming that Nagato and Konan are always together since the fight with Hanzou. Even before that too. The 3 are inseparable, Yahiko, Konan and Nagato.


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Anonymous said...

Imagine all the Zetsu made by Tobi are naked in the anime. That would be certainly be interesting to watch. I would have loved to see Jiraya's face in fighting them. He would be all grossed out of his body.

Oh Jiraya. I miss the comedy side of Naruto manga. It has been too serious now.


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SkyRaz said...

@124,genin of 4th ninja war
Kakuzu was assigned a mission to murder shodai hokage.He failed and waterfall village condemned and imprisoned him(Almost like Sakumo Hatake).So he decided to murder everyone and knick the village's secret scroll.He has more knowledge of others than people have of him.Leaf has a written down evidence of his powers courtesy shikamaru .He does not belong to great five villages.
Earth grudge fear is kinjutsu of Waterfall village.So to steal that tech you need to have that scroll and ready to make your body like ragdoll.
Stealing a heart takes time,he tried to take kakashi's.Kakashi was lucky twice in his battle.Shikamaru saved his butt once and naruto-yamato the second time.
The only mistake he did was he underestimated naruto and his rasen shuriken.Still if yamato had defeated him ,he would have died of shame,getting beat by two wood element users in one lifetime.



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SkyRaz said...

@128
I miss the comedy side of naruto too.Sexy jutsu,pervy research,leaf village secret taijutsu,icha icha,mizukage's murderous side.the good old days.



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Anonymous said...

@Skyraz 66 post

Regarding Itachi working with Jiraya. It would be a nice thought indeed. His actions prove it so. He was not a man to explain everything or even talked that much. He just wanted to do the right thing.

He could have killed Kakashi right there during his visit back to Konoha.

Itachi was accused of killing Shishui. Then how did Danzou got the eyes. He was blamed for a crime he may or did not do. He was accused for killing Shishui to get MS. With that being said, how did Kakashi gained MS without killing your best friend in a fight?

Sasuke got his complete 3 tomoe sharinggan without killing Naruto. We all know what Itachi said to Sasuke to gain the eyes there is a condition. However, it proved invalid.

In Sasuke gaining the MS, it was said it was transfered to him by Itachi. It was evidence enough when Sasuke met Tobi for the first time. Amaterasu was there to protect him. However, Tobi used Izanagi to counter the attack. That clearly Itachi did not know about. And I know this has been probably discussed before.

There must be a loop hole in the sharinggan dojutsu. In gaining the MS and EMS.

The timeline on the Uchiha massacre and Shishui's death is not been established yet. It might have been done in a span of hours, days, weeks, months or a whole year. If Tobi did what he said to Sasuke about helping Itachi killing his kinsmen. Then Sasuke must have hate his guts too.

Itachi wanted Sasuke to beat Tobi since he can be the one who could surpass him. Fate? To have peace and to stop the war.

I mentioned Shishui and Sharinggan since the anime came out this week.

Also, if Danzou's arm had already have the sharinggans and Hashirama's DNA. Would he also have Shishui's eyes? If he did, he could have been controlling the 2 advisors, Itachi, Hokage, Uchiha clan and the black ops.

All we know is only from Tobi's story about the Uchiha massacre. We also know 2 sides of the 9-tails revival 16 years ago, Tobi and Kushina's tell all. An introduction from Minato was additional.

If there was a key to all this is what Itachi gave to Naruto. Is it part of him. Which could also be why the fox saw the seal of Rikudo from Naruto? Or is it a memory of the events during the Uchiha massacre and Akatsuki from Itachi's eyes and thoughts.

If Minato and Kushina could appear in Naruto. There is a possibility of that happening to Sasuke when he fights Naruto.

Just something to ponder before the next chapter.


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@85 , tenten is a likely candidate for the fan because she has the ability to dematerialise physical weapons into her scroll and no one will be the wiser for it.

Another candidate (maybe far-fetched) could be Chouji who could have (accidentally) ingested the fan when he was in that giant rolling form and hit the 6 tailed kyubbi form of kinkaku .

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@SkyRaz 129

I know he's not part of the 5 great countries and 5 great shinobi hidden villages. However there should be more detail on that jutsu of his with stealing hearts. It is too easy for one to be immortal unless he has a KG in his own to handle all of that.

If stealing hearts would take him time. Then fighting in a battlefield where there are much more opportunities to kill your opponent would be to distracting for him to even handle. I know there are other edo tensei summons and the Zetsu's.

Beside the fact, there are also many shinobi's of the allied forces present to keep him busy from doing so.

Let us say he was able to get the hearts during the fight. It is still does not prove the point that he had 4 masks already in chapter 528. Which means he already had a complete set of hearts then.

Like i said in my previous posts in the other chapters, Kishimoto must have written down the manga way ahead of time and the publishers would rearrange the frames drawn for each chapter that comes out. I would not like to assume it was Kishimoto's fault in not seeing that too far ahead in writing his own manga. I hope I am mistaken about this abnormality.


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SkyRaz said...

Yeah his jutsu "Earth grudge fear" is waterfall kinjutsu.Why he is acquiring hearts ,maybe to increase range ,maybe for a unseen jutsu.HE is actually the most dangerous of edo summons .Because he knows what it is to live a long life and be undead.
@Bowdown
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TheDarkPrince said...

202-March 10, 2011
"Racing Lightning"
"Hashiru Ikazuchi" (疾走る雷)

203-March 17, 2011
"Sasuke's Ninja Way"
"Sasuke no Nindō" (サスケの忍道)

204-March 24, 2011
"The Five Kage's Power"
"Gokage no Chikara" (五影の実力)

205-March 31, 2011
"Declaration of War"
"Sensen Fukoku" (宣戦布告)



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@95 where did you get this Hinata can see 10 km ahead thingy ??

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@132

Ten Ten only uses summoning weapons from the scroll. How she opens them and the timing of summoning is her trait and jutsu.

She been known for long range fighting rather than close combat. Certainly it would add to her arsenal if she had the fan.

But kidding aside, that would make her powerful since the fan can have the 5 elements. We can all dream that to happen.

The five treasures have been said to be from the Rikodu. Having enormous amounts of chakra too is needed.

Certainly Darui has that since he prove that in his jutsus, black panther lightning and storm element jutsu.

Looking what has been said by the Tsuchikage during the anime episode. The hidden cloud village has been gathering jutsus and treasures. They kidnapped Kushina, tried to kidnapped Hinata, developed the cooperation between host and bijuu, and probobly the space/time jutsu for "items" his aid could send the sealing pot to Darui.

So they know and performed tests of all jutsus from history.

The present Raikage should be the same age if Minato is still alive. Then his father the previous Raikage was the one who gave the order to kidnap Kushina.

They know the Uzamaki's chakra abilities in controlling the tailed beasts. Having said that, he should have known when he met Naruto before the Kage summit that he could gain another Uzamaki clan. Maybe the only one remaining.

They also tried to get the kyubi which Ginkaku and Kinkaku was part of.

I don't think the hidden cloud would give anyone their secrets possessions to anyone not from their village. Unless to whom the Raikage thinks who deserve it.


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@40
I don't see how TenTen could use the Banana Palm Fan at all or very long because it said that if any normal ninja uses it then their chakra will get sucked up and they will die.



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@136 regarding the post of 95

Read the chapter were Sasuke just defeated Itachi and the 2 squads was trying to reach and find him.


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Anonymous said...

kimimaro said he felt orochimaru's chakra flowing thru him i think edo tensei is not a perfect jutsu as kabuto told madara there must some weakness to it, like all great jutsu's in naruto world maybe it will drain the users chakra or somethig it was a forbidden jutsu to begin with naruto's mass kagebunshin is a forbidden jutsu to begin with it will drain his chakra completely he is only able to survive due to his unlimited chakra reserves excluding the kyubi's due to his uzumaki inheritage . uzumaki's were the fraks of naruto world like oro refused to die even when a tailed best was removed from their bodies & their sealing techniques imagine who can summon a death god that technique is very special oro was frightened by it the only time i ever saw him scared to death even facing itachi & others he was clam & composed kishi still has to reveal the secrets of uzumaki ,senju & uchiha clans,these three clans hold the key to sage of six paths powers maybe kishi will rewiew them at the end of the manga,



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UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

21 bro i am very happy today that's why replied to you

BUT YOU DIDN'T PROVIDED ANY MOVIE REFERENCES

WELL EVEN IF PEOPLE PROVIDE ME MOVIE REFERENCES I DON'T WATCH

THEM UNTIL THEY NOT COME ONTO TELEVISION




ALSO IS IT TRUE THAT TOBI AKA MADARA UCHIHA SHOWED

HIMSELF IN 2011

WELL I THINK PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT TOBI AKA MADARA UCHIHA SHOWING HIMSELF IN ANIME EPISODE

OF KAGE'S MEETING



HELL YEAH I AM EXCITED MY EXCITEMENT IS OVER THE EDGE


AND YOU PEOPLE KNOW I JUST DOWNLOAD NARUTO EPISODE 201

AFTER 164 I DIDN'T WATCHED A SINGLE EPISODE OF

NARUTO SHIPPUDEN




WELL NOW TOBI AKA MADARA UCHIHA IS HERE

AND I REALLY DYING TO WATCH IT


ABOUT ZETSU

HE ALWAYS WAS MY CHARACTER THAT'S WHY WHOLE LOAD OF

THEORIES I CREATED ON HIM

AND HIM BEING COOL MEANS I AM OVER THE EDGE AGAIN

NEXT POST WILL SHOW WHY I AM HAPPY THAT MUCH

ALL HAIL MADARA SAMA

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Anonymous said...

If Dan can control the ghost transformation jutsu. could he also use it like Tobi. Where he can select parts of his body to let attacks past through him?

Or is it like edo tensei summoning?

We all know how Naruto is afraid of ghosts and spirits. I would like him to be there when Dan uses the jutsu.

Naruto would be sitting down curled up and grabbing his knees trembling in fear.

Comedy Naruto is long gone. I miss that part of this manga.

Example would be naked Zetsus' versus naked sexy jutsu kage bunshins of Naruto. That would make me laugh so hard. Pointless but it would be funny.


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@UTP 141

Where have you been? Those movies been out on tele since the age of time. Are you seriously saying that you have not seen them?

Also why on tele? Cheapskate! Don't take it as an offense but you should buy a movie ticket and see it in a cinema. It would be much more pleasant to watch.

It is a different experience even if you watch it on a big LED screen tele.

Unless you need a parent to accompany you and buy you one.

I know i am not suppose to take jabs at you.

We all have our moments of being a cheapskate.


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=gotya= said...

What's with the tailed beasts having Do-jutsu all of a sudden? Dojutsu's are kekkei-genkai's! Not a blessing/curse of the tailed beasts.

If the S06P acquired rinnegan from the tailed beasts, how do you explain Nagato having it? How do you explain Tobi giving it to him as he claims?
The rinnegan/sharingan shown in the monsters is similar to the rinnegan/sharingan shown in Pain's summons/Kyuubi.

@ 1000slika

"...and eventually I lost the point of everything I wrote...."

LooooooL. Happens, when your head's brimming with a lot of ideas. it's alright. :P

@ Meowmeow

Yes indeed, Zetsu is the new Hidan!!!

@ SkyRaz @ 111

My dear friend, you have some pretty interesting theories there, as always. Enjoy reading your posts. By the way, which image of Shodaime and you talking about? Link, link?

@ Genin OT4NW

Yes even I agree the manga is missing out on some fun of the good old days. Sorry but that's the only post of yours that I have read. Haven't slept for three days now and all your other posts are seem too big to read, Maybe when I have a fresh mind, I will comment on them. :P

@ SkyRaz @ 130

Good old days, indeed. Perhaps Kishi might be attempting some lame humour by making Naruto notice something stupid while training instead of the actual situation outside.



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@=gotya=

Sleep deprive for 3 days is easy. Try 7 days without sleep. Living on Red Bulls and caffine and cigarettes. You would certainly sleep for 2 days straight immediately right after.

I miss the good old days where I would not sleep.

All my posts are long so it would take time for anyone to read. I need to get that out of my system for all to ponder on.


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Anonymous said...

Hey!!!

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SkyRaz said...

@144
http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/68770608/19
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=gotya= said...

Hey guys, what do you think will happen if Ten Ten gives the Banana Palm Fan to LEE?

That would be awesome! Lee has a lot of chakra courtesy the inner gates. If the fan could mould chakra as well, we would see a completely different Lee! Would love to see the excitement on his face and his little dance that he does. Been long since he did that.

Anyway, I know nothing of the sort will happen. Just a fleeting thought though.

Guys, what do you think of SHISUI? he looks amazing in the anime, doesn't he? Is that his first official image or was he shown before somewhere?

Where the heck is Sakura in the battlefield? Thank god for anime. I needed to remind myself why I don't like Sakura that much. Maybe a few more episodes later, we will get to see the real emotions behind her "fake" confession...whether she was really bluffing or was there some element of truth in it.

@ UTP

Arey dost, what's this? Advertising soaps? Oh man! I hate soaps. :(



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@=gotya=

Having without sleep and still think clearly is the key. It makes your mind work and your thinking much more focused.


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UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

WELL YOU CAN CALL ME CHEAP STAKE

I AM ASKING WHICH MOVIE OR MOVIES


WELL I ALREADY LISTED SOME DAYS AGO MY REASONS OF NOT WATCHING THE MOVIES OVER COMPUTER

I DON'T KNOW WY BUT I INTERACT WITH TELEVISION MORE

THAN CINEMA HALL OR COMPUTER


WELL I NEVER WENT TO ANY CINEMA NEVER IN MY WHOLE LIFE

SO I NEVER BOUGHT ANY TICKET AT ALL



AND I DON'T THINK CINEMA WILL BE A PLEASING THING

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UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

ALL OF MY ASIAN ORIGIN FRIENDS

AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO FEEL ANNOYED BY ME

OK I AM PROMOTING THIS SHOW AND IT IS MY RECOMMENDATION

SO ITS WORTH WATCH


WELL THIS MESSAGE SUIT INDIANS

IT IS NOT A MERE DAILY SOAP

JUST TRY SOME VIDEO'S OF IT ON YOU TUBE



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@=gotya= 148

Shishui might have been great. I wrote something a while back about him. Read post 131


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UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

OK EVERYONE THIS POST IS MY RECOMMENDATION

I DON'T WATCH MANY TV SHOWS

WELL I NEVER WATCH THEM

INDIAN TV SHOWS ARE HELL STUPID AND LOW STANDARD AND FOOLISH THAT EVEN SPEAKING ABUT THEM IS ABSURD .


BUT THIS SHOW TOUCHED MY WHOLE HEART AND MIND

THIS SHOW NAME IS

DHOONDH LEGI MANJIL HAMEIN


ROUGH TRANSLATION IS THAT WELL I THINK IT IS THE EXACT

TRANSLATION .



WE WILL FIND OUR GOAL

OR

THE DESTINY WILL FIND US


ITS SHOW ABOUT GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND LOVE AND ROMANCE

AND OVERALL FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS PACKAGE


HERE IT IS THE OFFICIAL AGE OF IT

http://www.facebook.com/OfficialDhoondhLegiManzilHumein?v=wall&sk=wall#!/OfficialDhoondhLegiManzilHumein


JUST TRY SOME VIDEO'S OF IT ON YOU TUBE

I AM SURE ASIAN ORIGIN PEOPLE WILL LIKE IT MORE AND MORE .




ASK ANYTHING ABOUT IT TO ME .



AFTER A WHILE I FEEL SO MUCH HAPPY AND ENTERTAINED



TOBI AKA MADARA SAMA WHOM SUPPORTER I AM

AND ZETSU MY MAN

AND ROMANCE AND TRAGEDIES ALL ARE MY THINGS


HELL YEAH I AM HAPPY


ALL HAIL MADARA SAMA

ALL HAIL UCHIHA MADARA



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=gotya= said...

@ SkyRaz

Hmmm...perhaps the Shodaime was defeated in the war by the mist village and they ended up with that sword summoning scroll.

@ TheDarkPrince

Thanks for the heads-up.

@ Genin/Kage OT4NW

Naah, hope not to do that. Would be tough with my job, may end up killing people than saving them. LOL.

Zetsu vs. Sexy Jutsu. ROFL. That made me laugh hard. Guess I am a bit perverted to even imagine the look on others faces if that happems. LoooooooooooooL :D



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@UTP 150

Did I bother you that much? If not, you must be a real Indian then. I am not generalizing yourself but you have to admit it that being a cheapskate is who you are. Even my Indian friends admit that to me. So this is not an observation but a testimonial from your own people.

I am not annoyed by you. I actually find you interesting. Would like you to be my subject of observation.

What movie references? Look at my post 21. You've actually read and commented on it.

Anyway, those links should not be even be displayed here.

We are here to talk about Naruto and the forthcoming chapters of the manga.


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@=gotya= 154

See! That kind of laughter would lift up that mood in Naruto manga right about now.

100,000 Zetsus vs 100,000 Sexy jutsu Naruto. Kakashi, Ibizu, Jiraiya, 3rd hokage and probobly Ibiki would have a nose bleed on having seen that many naked sexy jutsu Naruto.


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Anonymous said...

to add on 156

Then Sakura punches all of them to death! Konahamaru comes to the rescue by doing the same sexy jutsu in the war.


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UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

hahahaha CHEAPSTAKE

HAHAHAHAHA

REALLY FUNNY

WELL I ADMIT I WON'T SPENT A SINGLE PENNY ON WORTHLESS THINGS

IF PEOPLE THINK SPENDING MONEY ON UNNECESSARY ITEMS IS GOOD

THEN THEY ARE PATHETIC HAHAHA .

RATHER THAN WASTING MY MONEY ON MOVIES

I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE IT SO SOME NGO'S

MORE PREFERRED

WOMEN ACTIVIST AND WOMEN RIGHTS

AND CHILDREN RIGHTS ORGANIZATION

YOU THINK PEOPLE AREN'T ANNOYED BY ME

BU WHOEVER TOLD YOU WHATEVER ABOUT ME THOSE PEOPLE DISLIKE ME

BECAUSE I AM STRAIGHT AND TRUTHFUL AND

NOT EVERYONE HAS THE STAMINA TO SWALLOW THE TRUTH

HAHAHAHA


WELL MONEY DESERVE RESPECT AND I DO THAT

ALSO I DON;T LIVE IN A LUXURIOUS PLACE

BUT MY PARENTS HAVE ENOUGH TO FEED MY WHOLE LIFE

AND ENOUGH MONEY I WASTED IN MY LIFE ON FOOLISH THINGS




HAHAHA FIRST I TOOK YOUR LINE SERIOUSLY BUT AFTER READING IT I A JUST LAUGHING

HAHAHA REALLY I AM LAUGHING

ALSO THERE EXIST NO ONE EXCEPT HUMANS GODS WHO BOTHERS ME

I AM LIKE MISANTHROPE




WELL I THINK PEOPLE KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT ME



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SkyRaz said...

@157
And then tobi mentions "marriage,late,void" infront of godaime mizukage and she goes ssj3.



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Anonymous said...

I just can't help it.

@=gotya=

Imagine if it were actually in the anime. Naked Zetsus vs Sexy kage bunshins Naruto.

Everything would be in a cloud covering private parts.

Surely the animators would love drawing them. I can guarantee that.

Well if you are saving lives then it might not be advised to be without sleep. However you should be used to that too.

Imagine yourself standing 100 meters from the ground on a I-beam without sleep for 7 days and still do what you do. It might not be others but myself in harms way. So i get your point of view.


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@UTP 158

Well if you do give away your money to NGOs then that is fine by me. I'll actually applaud if you are actually giving and doing it. We could all talk about doing that but it is actually in actions which would be more appreciated.

You have to balance your life. Depriving yourself in those small moments and experiences would mean harm to your physiological needs.

If you do actually value money then you should spend your time earning it rather than spending your time commenting and searching videos.

I don't know and I don't care what people think of you.

If you say you are like a misanthrope. May I ask you this? Do you dislike your parents as human being and yourself?


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@156
Hey you missed iruka



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@SkyRaz 159

Oh well! I miss the glimpses of comedy relief on this manga.

That would be actually be funny. Then Tobi goes and says "What the hell did I do?"


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sheazy16 said...

u wanna who's in that sixth coffin? Kushina herself. Doushite? i think kabuto will make use of high level sealing jutsus to aid in Becoming the SO6P by making her seal all the tailed beasts into himself. Then He'll be the ultmate jinchuuriki.

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@SkyRaz 162

I intentionally did cause I forgot his name. Iruka was a given. He falls for it every time.

On the Godaime Mizukage's taboo words, would it be also the same for Godaime Hokage?


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@sheazy16

The sealing jutsu might be possible. I could imagine that happening.


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SkyRaz said...

nah godaime hokage is "flatboard,106" if i remember.The running gag on tsunade is the ampleness of her bosom.

For more fun watch the "Fun with Akatsuki" on youtube.

And yeah 7 day on a I beam is awful.One day on a I makes me uneasy.



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@SkyRaz

Yeah I remember the 106 cm. I bet Kakashi never looked at Tsunade's bosom after Jiraiya said that information to him.

I have gone longer than 7 days without sleep. It is no fun being around me after 7 days though. Well working in construction does that to you. You got very unreasonable deadlines to get and achieve.


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SkyRaz said...

@168
Flatboard was when jiraya was tied to stump
And the end of anime gag when sakura and Ino asked about tsunade's diet .



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Meowmeow said...

@ Genin/Kage? of the 4th ninja war 123/124

I count 3 hearts on that picture though, 2 on his upper back, 1 on his lower back, and his own heart, so that makes 4 total, than the fift is taken in the picture that i showed..

Kakuzu was mainly strong, because he had to be killed several times, he is from the waterfall village and stole the heartstealing jutsu before he abondened the village, same village as the 7tail jinchuriki.

Now that kakuzu is an edo tensei, the whole concept of having to kill him several times is gone.

The only purpose the hearts have right now, is increasing the amounts of elements kakuzu can use and use at once, because the hearts can act independently, they can all fire at the same time.

''Stealing the hearts and immediately using it in battle is far too easy''.

Sad but true, he can actually do this. Becoming a heartstealing ragdol probably took some time, but once you gain the body he has, replacing hearts once you have someone to take them from is piece of cake :(.

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@SkyRaz 169

Hinata is doing well on that diet.


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UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

THAT'S THE PROBLEM

I DON'T HATE HUMANS YET I AM LIKE MISANTHROPE

I LOVE FEW PEOPLES SPECIFICALLY FRIENDS AND FAMILY LIKE

EVERY HUMAN BEING . I GET ATTRACTED TOWARDS SMILES SPECIFICALLY OF GIRLS AND CHILDRENS LIKE EVERY HUMAN DO

I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT SOCIAL AND HUMANS ISSUES

YET I ALWAYS SAY GET ANNOYED BY HUMANS

I ACT LIKE A OXYMORON

WELL IF YOU DON;T CARE ABUT PEOPLE'S THINKING

THEN WHY DID YOU USED THOSE WORDS

WELL ITS CERTAINLY WAS INTENTIONAL ISN'T IT

AND WHO YOU ARE STREET PUNK TO GUIDE ME HOW TO USE THE

MONEY . ITS MY MONEY ITS UPTO ME HOW TO WASTE IT AND HOW

TO USE IT . EVERYTHING COME UNDER SOME REASONS

I BEING IND AND CRUEL IS SOMETHING REASONABLE

I AM A LEECHER LIKE EVERYONE ELSE OVER THE INTERNET

THAT IS CHEAPSTAKE BOTH BY NATURE AND ACTIVITY


SEE THE MIRROR BRO I ALREADY WON THE GAME



I KNOW ONE THING ITS VICTORY

ALL THE OTHER THINGS IN LIFE COME AFTER THAT

I ALWAYS HAD MY SHARE OF DEFEATS

THAT PERFECT MY DICTIONARY I WON'T LOSE LIKE NAPOLEON


AND CERTAINLY I WAS JUST PLAYING WITH YOU

AND I WANNA CLEAR THIS STUPID ACTION MOVIES I DON'T

LIKE BECAUSE THEY STEAL IDEA'S FROM PEACE .



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@171
Yeah episode 169 ,when sakura is healing hinata.The same episode ending has the diet gag.



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@Moewmoew

Just call me genin. Since it is an appropriate word for the 4th ninja war. Sasuke and Naruto, the best ones are still a genin.

Look closely at the far bottom left. You would see a mouth and a face of the mask. Remember he is arching his back.

Having to steal them and use elemental jutsus however is rather rare. Since it would be difficult to find them since they are rare.


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@SkyRaz 173

I remember that. Made me laugh a bit. I am not a woman and would not know why the obsession about bigger bosoms.

I get the old thinking that it would attract suitors cause it would be good for breeding and such.

Which reminds me of Sakura. Would she be able to fight? Would love to see her having the frog katas too so she can increase her fighting range. Even though you miss the physical punch, frog katas is there to kick her opponents to the ground.


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SkyRaz said...

@174
Actually those are just masks ,not hearts actually.He can store hearts in his body or associate a heart to a mask.Kakashi hit kakuzu's heart.Immediately it was replaced with another one.Basically conditions are same.Kill four hearts and seal the fifth one.Combination jutsu are quite lethal.Katon-Futon ,Futon-Raiton are very dangerous combo jutsus.
@175
Frog kata's are only to be used with senjutsu chakra mode.She doesnt have that much chakra.She has better chance of poison release.



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@176

Poisons are over rated specially now that their opponents have to be physically incapacitated. So one they reform back the sealing jutsus of the allied force would work.

The poison would just harm her and other people around her though. Look at Naruto when he got cut in the cheek with Sakura's kunai.

I get your point about the masks and the hearts. However, when he did not have a heart when Kakashi killed one and Shikamaru used Hidan's jutsu to kill the other. The masks were not there.

The inconsistency is what I am referring also what I am pointing out.

The combination elemental jutsus are very deadly. Specially with 3 elements combined or even 4. We now know there could be 3 elemental jutsus combined and form another element. I guess Kishimoto would release and invent an element with 4 or 5 combined elements on a jutsu in the succeeding chapters.


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@ bowdown 75

Looking forward to seeing the elder and younger son in anime indeed.

@ skyraz 112

light up like christmas candles :).
Yeah if you wouldnt see the veins on his face, than the look of his eye wouldnt give the impression of byakugan.

@ geninkage of the fourth ninja war 126

thanks.

And yes, kishi leaves a lot of blanks in the story about minato, kushina, the seals, the key. They didnt plan it originally for naruto, that is for sure. Kushina didnt even want naruto to become a host. So maybe the plans where all for kushina indeed.

@ gotya 148

The manga shows a picture of him too at the kage summit.

@ gotya 154

The swords dont look the same as the seven shinobi swords though, i dont recognize a single one of them, unless i saw a different picture.



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to add on 177

Is storm element jutsu a combination or wind-lightning-water or wind-fire-water?


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SkyRaz said...

@177
Yeah and lightning heart became his his replacement heart.His earth heart was knocked by kakashi and REAL heart by hidan.The lightning heart became his new heart.HE was the man with five hearts.The ragdoll earth grudge fear is a very special jutsu.As far as i know(I may be wrong)kakuzu's body didnt have any muscle or blood.HE was just that stiching material and skin with eyes and four masks.Reminds me of child's play movie series.



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@Meowmeow 178

Cause if you look at it at the chapters during Kushina's helping Naruto battle the kyubi and take his will. How would she know how to do that? Unless she already knew and could control it. Maybe in her own way she could supress the kyubi except during child birth. Which makes sense since that part of a woman's life is really hard. Imagine having a bowling ball coming out of a small hole.

If Kushina did indeed could control the kyubi. Then why did no one knew?

Or if the seal and key was intended for her with a full size kyubi then she could be too powerfull. Just imagining it made me have goose bumps.


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@180

Option 1

If the masks are only representation of the elements then when Naruto came to rescue Kakashi with Yamato. He should have those masks on.


Option 2

If they represent both heart and element, then my point of him having the 4 masks already at chapter 528 is a glitch in the drawing.


Option 3

If they represent the heart and not the element. Then why does Kakazu need them now since he can't die.



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Meowmeow said...

@ Genin of the 4th ninja war

storm jutsu is water and lightning.

Yes i agree, minato and kushina probably had plans for kushina or at the very least the knowledge how to.

A few people knew about kushina and the kyuubi though. Third hokage, his wife, the anbu taji that assisted inside the room. Maybe a few more but not many indeed.
Secrets are kept secret :).

Imagine a full size Juubi, even more scarier xD.



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SkyRaz said...

Hmm
Adding some thing more to those options.
Option 4:
Kakuzu's earth grudge fear has a limit of 5 hearts.
With his threads the four masks can act as four different entities.
With each heart gained he gains knowledge of new jutsu.
But one body has only two arms and only KG and kekkai dota can use two or more elements at once .
But with each mask as a seperate entity he can use all five elements.Maybe he got the idea from the red haired lady from 12 guardian shinobi arc.
Edo tensai just summons his body with one heart.
Five hearts = full strength plus increase in range.
Basically he compartmentalized his body so he can perform all five elemental ninjutsu plus increasing his range .



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@Meowmeow 183

How could you build a storm with just water and lightning? You would need heat too. Just like what Sasuke did during his fight with Itachi.

Maybe it was just fire and lightning.

I know Darui can use water and lightning. But to combine them? I really do not know how it would work for a storm element.

As for the kyubi in Kushina, the advisors and Danzou must have known too. Since there were no secrets hidden from them. However Minato was already the Hokage then. He could have protected that fact and kept it amongst him and Kushina.

There is one colored page where the fox is chained down. Also shows Tobi and Sasuke.

There are so many used up words like "however", "but" and "either".

Holes in the story which is why it is so interesting still.



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Anonymous said...

Where are donzo ,kushina ,white fang ,yahiko and konan?Did kabuto even revive them?i dont think he did and i cant understand why????
Pharoah



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Anonymous said...

@SkyRaz 184

Option 4 is possible too. I get what you are saying.

But that doesn't leave the fact which drawings has a glitch in them to explain the mask's representation.



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Meomeow said...

The masks are heart and element.

When kakuzu fought vs kakashi and ino chika cho, he kept the water mask in himself as a heart to survive and released lightning, wind and fire mask, so they could fight independently.
Earth mask was released too, but it collapsed, because it was hit by chidori.

As edo tensei, they only serve the element purpose, since kakuzu is immortal anyway.
But maybe he can even release 5 hearts instead of 4 now, because he cant die anyway.

Kakuzu lives for such a long time allready, he shouldnt limit himself to the regular 5 elements.
I dont get why he never took someone out that can use ice, blast, storm, scorch, lava, boil or any other kekkei genkai heart.

I dont know if his body can incorperate kekkei genkai from hearts though.



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Anonymous said...

@Meowmeow 183

to add on my 185

You said "Secrets are kept secret."

I can tell you're hiding something. Hahahaha...

I know what it is. :)


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Meowmeow said...

@ Genin of the 4th ninja war

Darui has lightning on his shoulder as tatoo and water on the other and its said that storm=lightnign and water, even if it doesnt make sense hehe.



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Anonymous said...

@Meowmeow 188

See that is my point in him not having those hearts. He could have killed either or both Tsuchikages. Godaime Mizukage could be a good element to have.

Or the 3rd Kazekage too has a strong element in the iron element.

Obviously he can control those rag dolls with masks once it leaves his body as a doll. Is it like Nagato's chakra signals or a puppet controlling it?

Makes us think more now, huh?


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Anonymous said...

@Meowmeow 190

Sorry I can't read kanji for now. So I would not know what Darui's shoulder tatoos mean.

Then the shippuden movie where storm element was first used made me think of what element the other captives used jutsus and their origins.


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Anonymous said...

@SkyRaz 180

"Chucky comes to play!" is the line Kakazu should use.


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Anonymous said...

Where is my test subject gone to?


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TnTMobius said...

@164

Kushina can't be in the sixt coffin cause she's also sealed in the shiki fujin if im correct.



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Anonymous said...

@TnTMobious 195

It can't be. I hope. Minato summoned the shinigami for the 9-tails. I hope that he did not trap her wife inside too. There was no need for that. It was her chakra which was sealed with the 4 element seal which was used to enclosed half of the kyubi inside Naruto.

She was suppose to survive and take care of Naruto. The kyubi tried to kill Naruto during the sealing jutsu. Both parents protected him. Which leaves Kushina dying as well.

The option was to seal her remaining life force and chakra inside Naruto so they can be together.

Her soul is free from the shinigami. Well that is what I translate from what I read.

I am basing this to what has been said.

However what you said is a possibility too.


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SkyRaz said...

@191
Maybe he avoided KG users due to previous bashing by shodai.Yeah he should have stocked ice,lava,boil,scorch,blast,storm,dark,steel,wood, elements but he then would invincible.Plus if he doesnt have blood how can he have a bloodline limit.:P



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Meowmeow said...

@ genin of the 4th ninja war.

I cant read japanese or kanji signs either, i just googled the info :).



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Anonymous said...

@Meowmeow 198

Sometimes there are inconsistencies in google translations or even information in the web.

Would be studying nihongo so there would be less lost in translation from the raw chapters.


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Anonymous said...

@SkyRaz 197

He should be human at some point in his life. Just like Sasori, Zetsu, Tobi/Madara and Orochimaru.


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