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Naruto 513 by Mangastream
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Naruto 512 by Sleepyfans
Naruto 512 by Mangastream
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|‹‹ ‹‹ 1 – 200 of 917 ›› ››|cool chapter
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interesting chapter
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3rd? Am i?
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For months we've been wondering how Madara would fight a war with the 5 nations, and now we know. A CLONE ARMY!!! (Star Wars is going too be pissed, LOL).
So Zetsu must be a creation that Madara made since he treats him as property. With the power of the Sanju and Uchiha he can create life like the SO6P's. So I figure Madara created Zetsu with this power.
Now with the chakra of the 7 captured tailed beast he was able too boost his powers and used it too create those 100,000 clone army.
It seems there will be a future battle between Kabuto(with Summons) and the combination of Naruto, Bee, Garaa, and Tsuchikage.
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Kabumaru +zombie slaves vs. Jinchurikis/Gaara/Yamato/etc
should be an interesting battle :D
I wonder how Kabumaru plans to buff up Zetsu.
@4, i agree, though is Tsuchikage going along or did he concede to let Gaara go?
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I think that Zetsu is a creation combining the wood element of the 1st, and the chakra of all the tailed beasts. This would explain how he has made so many, and y he is so lenient to give up a copy. i still wonder how kabuto knew about this, and how he could make them better
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Hi everyone, its E Sensei. I guess I am early for the discussion today.
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OMG!!!!! No way!
Are really all those Zetsu under water? This makes is creepy and interesting.
I have to say, that I don't think Madara will leave Kabuto alone. I think he'll either follow him or.... kill the rest of the Kages since he's regained some of his power. (Rinnegan eye's)
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Top 10 again!!!!!
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Hey I have a question for all those who read this....
Isn't this Gedo statue the thing that Minato uses for the Dead Demon Sealing Jutsu?
I mean doesn't this imply that those who use this are actually determining someone's death (vice versa, in that it could give life?)
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@6, Madara could possibly have used some kind of technique like Izanagi, he was saying thats what the Sot6P used to create life.
Zetsu's clones have shown to be pretty strong in the past, should be interesting to see what their abilities are, for example if they turn into an identical clone of their opponent like when Guy's team fought them. Though hopefully Kishi brings a new and interesting spin to Zetsu's techniques.
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wow what an interesting chapter I wonder what ignoramous this week is going to say that tobi is not madara. I hope we have solved that discussion
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So confusing..
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zetsu = 1st hokage dna + Uchiha dna/ madara probably uses zetsu to regenerate and live so long kind of like orochimaru?
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So its time for naruto to train and perfect his FGT techique along with his 9 tail form while they wait for kabuto to arrive. Can Naruto still talk to the ninetails or has he completely disappeared in some distance place inside naruto?
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CONGRATS TO THOSE WHO SAID ZETSU WAS A MAJOR PART OF TOBI PLAN.I HAVE TO SAY THIS OROCHIMARU WAS A SNEAKY BASTERD HE KNEW A GREAT DEAL ABOUT ZETSU AND TOBI, AND KABUTO INHERITED THAT TRAIT.ONE POINT TO MAKE KABUTO WILL BETRY TOBI FOR HIS OWN REASON AND NARUTO SEEMS TO HAVE DONE NO TRINING TO MASTER HIS NEW POWERS THOUGH THAT WONT BE MUCH PROBLEM WITH HIS TRINING METHOD
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lol to number 4 i guess the stars war can sue lol
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cant wait for 513
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What can Gaara really do to help hasn't naruto surpassed him to such an extent that he would be no help. or maybe he is just coming to get a rematch with the Akatski from the dead that destroyed his village and almost killed him
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Yeah I made the top 50
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Gaara is gonna kick Deidara's butt for sure...!
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Zetsu clones were all white... They were the manifestation of the Shodaime Hokage's cells but what about the Black Zetsu? Where did he come from? And I also think that those clones are mindless while the original Zetsu has a mind... In fact two personalities...
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here something i want u all to think about what will UTP say about 512 will he praise it or downgrade it
just to humour your self
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And then there is Kabuto... I wonder what weakness he has... Tobi must know something about Kabuto too like kabuto does about him that he is letting him on in his big secrets..
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if madara is so powerful? why he needs all 100,000 zetsu?
-phrackers-
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madara and kabuto are both going to try and back stab the other and end up making it much easier for naruto
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I would love to see Tsuchikage in action
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Does anyone know who the other summon is at the end? I know one of them is Deidara. But who's the one with the big fan?
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diedara v.s. gaara?? and those white zetsu are so creepy.. Madara one heck of a villain.. and Tsuchikage in action?? arg can't wait for the next chapter...
peace:)
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@30 that was Tobi/Madara
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@24, good point, maybe white zetsu is made from shodai hogake's genes and black zetsu from madara's genes?
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Ahhh... thanks Chance :)
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Anytime Mr/Mrs Anonymous
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@ 23
dont think so gaara is weak now
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@25...
someone post about that regarding the white zetsu...
dont really remember the name..
but, for him.... the white zetzu = senju clan..
the black zetsu = uchiha clan
-yeng-
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The multiple arms of hashirama in this one got me thinking.
http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/18743083/10
I've been wondering how Madara went about replacing his lost limbs in the past, could this maybe be the source?
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Gaara is the Kazekage. If he has been stripped off of Shukaku's powers doesn't mean he is weak. It has been a LONG time since we saw Gaara in action and it is very much possible that he has come up with some new jutsus... So let's keep our fingers crossed.
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I just read tonight's chapter in 8:39 PST. I was totally surprised and shocked about it. The only questions that need to be answered: A) Hashirama Senju died, but how did Madara get a hold of his body and extract so many DNA cells? It's kind of like being in a cryostasis or cryogenic sleep. B) Does Zetsu have any parents?
~Kevin
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Madara had said that when he fought Senju Hashirama at the Valley of End, he appeared to have been defeated but he had been able to procure some tissues and cells of Shodaime. It is from those cells that he has created a miniature copy of the Shodaime though it is without a mind...
And as it had been discussed earlier, White Zetsu is supposed to be from the cells of Shodaime...
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i dont care if is the kazekage he is weak and dedaria is stronger too gaara going to lose
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Yea I'm starting to jump on board with the Madara made Zetsu theory, but I'm not sure yet. We've learned an awful bit about the white zetsu, but we know little to nothing about the black one. Also I think Zetsu is the source of Madara regenerative powers. One last note: Remember several chapters ago when Madara ordered the white Zetsu to reattach with his black side, I wonder if Zetsu (with both sides) has a couple special tricks we haven't seen.
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my opinion is that Kabuto is trying to get a body for orochimaru. that make sense since he is trying to experiment with 1st hokage DNA; maybe he wants to resurrect orochi in a new body.
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does anyone else see these rematches happening- guy vs kisame and now Gaara vs dedaria?
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he has the rinnengan so he can fix himself
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ok so kisame's dead and i still dont understand how gai and him knew eachother back in the past. am i missing something
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man im still waitin to see what tht bird was tht itachi shoved down narutos throat. anyone got any ideas?
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Gaara can't lose or else what would be the point of putting him against Deidara AGAIN?
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tsuchikage will fight with kabuto
he will win but he will end up die
tobi is tsunade's brother, the small kid looked like naruto
thats why he got hashirama power
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they will probley make him win with a lot of help but no
what i lok forward too is tsuande vs kabuto andshe going to kill it fit so perfect
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You are seriously underestimating Gaara.
The only reason Gaara even lost too Deidara was because he spent a massive amount of chakra protecting the village from getting destroyed.
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#52 was meant for #42
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gara would be needed in this battle, but the numbers in narutos side are unmatched by all the summons of kabuto
nagato
itachi
kakuzu
deidara
kisame..??
and if the zombies have the full power of the originals then kabuto will have the upperhand
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am i the only one who got confused trying to work out the layout of the base/demon statue area ?
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it would be really intersting if nagato zombie tries to absorb bee`s sword chackra and viceversa
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1st Theory for Kabuto :
I dont think Kabuto will win against both Jinchuriki. He will run away once he knew that he will lose.
2nd Theory for Kabuto :
Kabuto is double agent for Naruto only. He will inform about Sasuke once they meet. He also will leak such information about Tobi to the people at Fortress
Yamato also in a target to be experimented by Kabuto. Yamato will lose to him.
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that is his falt he is weak after what naruto did to him it was over and plus if deiadar would have brought more clay it would have really been over
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if kabuto zombies have 100% the power of the original shinobies, naruto and the others could lose, specially with nagato and itachi
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true and not
gara used a lot chackra to pritect the village, but so deidara to with the gieant bomb, besides, deidara was ordered to bring him alive, while gaara was trying to kill him
of course we dont know how strong gaara is, even in sasuke`s invasion we did not see too much, obvoiusly he would have increased his powers by then, but cant compare him to reikage or Danzou
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they do have there power
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for some reason i think that nagato will come too his senses during the fight and will take himeself and the other summons within the dead deaomo seal, kabuto will have to retreat since he was not expecting any of his soldiers to against his orders even just for few seconds
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I think this would be the perfect timing for sasuke to appear from nowhere and stop kabuto
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But would the nagato zombie still have a 'complete' rinnegan? being that he is a zombie copy and the real corpse and rinnegan have been taken by madara?
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HHHmmmpppphhh, 100,000 Zetsu's..
Let's not forget the Master of Kage Bunshin now is Master of Sage mode, Is now the Master of the Kyubi, and the whole village of Fire is probably now willing to die for Naruto after the way he dispatched Pain. Madara can send either a ton of Zetsu's or a Kabutomaru with his summons and they'll still have their hands full.
The other thing is Nagato was using that statue and the rods to control the six paths of Pain, Madara might have the Rinnegan now and be able to use all 6 elements of chakra, but can he do it better than Nagato.
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i wonder if madara plans to make nagato clones?
since he has nagatos body, the rinnegan and chakra of the statue
hahaha
o well
not that i would expect 100 000 nagatos, but maybe 1 or two copies
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the way he defeated pain?
o yea like fighting him after he sued shinra tensei and used a lot of chackra and his movements and reactions lowered?
how about the help of the big frogs and pa and ma frog
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and lets not forget kyubis help and that pain was forced to use even more chakra with shibaku tensei
hahaha, that fight was like asking a vegeta that was hurt from the henkidama and spent a lot energy fighting goku to fight picolo in full strebgth
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I am the 100,001st .... wohaaa
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yeah ... that's highly probable ... does this also mean that the body of tobi is replaceable in itself? and the only "madara" in it is his will?
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maybe madara is inmortal like sigma from the megaman universe
you destroy his body, but his mind will go into another of the bodies he created
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If i'm correct this is the chance kabuto was looking for as to resurrect orochimaru, he showed lesser interest in zetsu clone but invariably he'll need it to transfer absorbed orochimaru so his revival will be completed, i suspect that madara knows this but somehow he doesn't seem to be fazed by it and on the other hand since orochimaru knew of madara's plan he formed another backup for his resurrection if needed. I think there is a connection between zetsu's creation and orochimaru as he was one the pioneer users of forbidden jutsus and when orochimaru was in konoha before fleeing that is, he had enormous amount of research data (on the forbidden jutsus) available, but i don't understand one thing as to how orochimaru came to know about tobi/madara's plans since he left akatsuki long before tobi was introduced as a new akatsuki member or maybe he also knew that madara is alive, same as Itachi did... somehow orochimaru knew that madara will need his help for upgrading zetsu clones thus the proposition from kabuto, this will take him closer towards acquiring bijuus...
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... yes ... it could be, I agree ...
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true ... same like sasori vs sakura-chiyo
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well
i dont think kabuto wants to become a dog again
and if he really surpassed orochinaru, then why revive him?
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orochimaru has nothing to offer kabuto anymore, if he still prefers to be a dog then he would stick with madara instead of a loser like oro
even becoming a dog of danzou would be understandable
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remember that danzou`s body is with madara?
then kabuto can summon danzou right?
but will it be danzou with sharingans?
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guys here http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/18743083/15
tsunade's words "your ability to fly would get you there quickly". is she making fun of him or can that guy really fly.
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more fillers-
Oct 14 "Naruto's Revenge Lessons"
(ナルト、仇討ち指南塾)
Oct 21 "Gaara's Bonds"
(風影我愛羅ビギンズ)
Oct 28 "Naruto's Outbreak"
(アウトブレイク)
Nov 4 "Set out! Team Tenten"
(アウトブレイク)
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@ 67
Naruto's not the hero only because he defeated Pain. It's also because he convinced Nagato to bring everyone he killed back to life. It's not always about who's stronger on the outside.....
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Here's a thought or two... Madara used a dead ninja in his place when he fought against the First. Like Itachi/Kisame vs Guy and the others to prevent Gara's rescue. Or... Having Senju Dna already, created a clone to fight for him. Win or lose the objective was at least to obtain the Firsts' Dna to create his perfect body.
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interesting chapter but boringg... -_-
NOW WHERE THE FCKK IS SASUKEE!!!! :P
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probably training with the eternal mangekyo somwhere else
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kabuto wants sasuke,yamato and zetsu?
but if you take nagatos body wouldnt that save effort in the experiments?w
of course, that is if madara is willing to give nagatos body to kabuto
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#79 you really think shodai hokage was stupid to be tricked by this simple trick.
i think what madara did that time is izanagi. as soon as he got his hands on hashirama,s cells he used izanagi(actually this is assuming that he knew about izanagi before the fight ).
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sasuke must be spying from the shadows
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as you read in manga oro knew about madara's plans all along. his hideout, his zetsu clones, his weakness(the unknown reanimation summoning)etc. He knew sasuke will kill him right before the body transfer bcoz at that time he is weakest, I'm saying this bcoz if u remember when sauske showed up to kill him he said, "I expected you to come here" now we were shown that kabuto absorbed the remaining parts after sauske absorbed him, on the contrary, I think it was just the opposite oro placed some part of him inside kabuto before sasuke absorbed him. Now the point behind all the above statements is that kabuto knows that when the time is right madara will be outfoxed by oro thus there is no question of kabuto becoming the dog for madara and kishi also is somewhat suggesting the same on the manga cover page 'when all is said and done, will it be the monster or the serpent that emerges'
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orochimarus was in sasuke and was sealed by itachi, the only thing you can get from the cells of oro is a clone, but not his consiuness, that has been explained in this chapter
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are you suggesting that if kabuto was taken over by oro cells oro would have revived?
the same can be applied to danzou then?
so if danzou would have been taken over by shodia cell, the first would have revived?
thast stupid
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again if u recall the episode in which kabuto confronted naruto, hinata and others, hinata took a closer look at kabuto through her byakugan it was shown that almost one third of his body was taken over by oro's powers and somehow kabuto managed to restrain it. Now tell me if they are mere cells of orochimaru then how in the world are they managing to takeover kabutos body, even if it was partial? and I'm not quite sure about oro being sealed by itachi COMPLETELY, may be a large part of him but not completely and as i pointed out kishis statement on the manga cover page, if there had been no chance of oro's return then he wouldn't write something like that!
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read my post 88
it was never established that shodai's cells are taking over danzo but in kabuto's case it was, in naruto shippuuden 122 watch it again then may be u'll understand
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cells have no consciouness
the only bad outcoming from being taken by the cells is to die
if shodiame could have revived within danzou due to the possibility of being taken over by his cells then wouldnt madara be afraid since shodaime knew madara as no one else and could become a pain in the future?
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when you are taken over by other cells you will get cancer, nothing else
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#88 itachi sealed oro's soul in that thingy. what we see in kabuto now is oro's body cells. and about oro's revival its just like madara did with shodai hokage its mindless body, but interestingly here kabuto surpasses madara by implanting oro in himself.
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#90 is right.
Orochimaru has been sealed within Totsuka Sword for good. He is not coming back.
The cells of Orochimaru just give Kabuto the same powers as Orochimaru, nothing more.
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madara and kabuto will be a gay couple in the end. Lol!!
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@92, 91 and 90
I agree with u guys, don't get too worked up!
but i'm just speculating on the kishi's statement. from what i understand of it either the 'monster'(Kabuto)or the 'serpent' (Orochimaru) is to make a shocking return. After years of reading naruto I understood one thing clearly that Kishi doesn't say or write anything without good reason.
I don't give a damn about shodaime, danzou or anyone for that matter I'm just speculating from what I gathered, so it doesn't matter anyways if I'm right or not!
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Kabuto left a trail of corpse to the madara's hideout, which was tracked by sai, anko and yamato this was right before naruto acquired 8 tailed mode while fighting pain, now what do you make of this huh? I think kabuto plans to betray madara and acquire either zetsu clones or bijuus. Now without oro's conscious how the heck kabuto found madara's hideout which was known only to his most loyal subordinates.
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don't forget uchiha sasuke...after acquiring the eyes of uchiha itachi it grants more power...i want to see those new eyes...
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to TheDarkPrince
kabuto knew it, he was the spy after all, oro was no spy, why do you think oro trusted kabuto that much?
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oro was not the only one in akatsuki, kabuto was a member too, oro took interest on kabuto due to his abilities as spy and his knowledge about akatsuki
besides, kabuto himeself told tobi that he shouldnt understimate him, since afetr all he was a member of akatsuki, meaning that kabuto founf madara thanks to his abilities, not oro`s
oro knew about madara and the rest thanks to kabuto, oro could not possibly do the job and if he tried he cpuld have been discovered and be killed or kicked either by itachi, kisame or pain
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how much thinking does kishi have to do to cretae awesome new eyes for sasuke?
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the sharingan and rinnegan can see chakra, tobi called kabuto by his name, not oro, meaning that kabuto took controll on the cells
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think about this: tobi is actually oro trying to take over akatsuki because he was kicked out. it all makes sense
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@98
as i said earlier i'm just speculating there is no point in discussing all this but let me tell u something even oro wouldn't trust kabuto with such information as that which may involve serious risk of deviation in kabuto's loyalty as madara is shown full of resources and power both of them are craved by kabuto and first of all shodaime's clone, zetsu's creation happened long before kabuto was even born thus only oro and few of madara's subordinates knew about his hideout, at that time no spy or kabuto was to be with oro when he investigated madara's actions... hope this satisfies your query!
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@96, Kabuto is a very able ninja, Theres little we know about his techniques other than the resurrection technique. I wouldnt doubt that he could find his way to Madara's hideout on his own.
Kabuto says he wants shodai's cells/a clone body, also sasuke for his sharingan, is kabuto wanting research material for the different paths? i remember him saying he wants to 'learn the truth about ninjutsu', this could mean he's researching into the Sot6p or something similar
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(Kabuto to Naruto) "I decided I wished to be like you as well Naruto-kun, and for that reason...with Orochimaru-sama now intregrated into this body, I plan on finding a new "me", one stronger than Orochimaru-sama himself!"
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to 67
dude u know nothing about the Nagato and pain.
why Nagato chibaku on konoha when thre still was naruto to be captured.coz he was sured of his powers.even though he believed naruto was powerful he was very sure of his own powers.In akatsuki Nagato was the one posessing vast amount of chakra and the most powerful jutsus and the 6 pains are boost in his power.coz each pains were visually linked can be manipulated at the same time so they can attack at the same time.
and u refer to naruto's summons.tht only proves his own power and also nagato or nore accurately pains also summoned creatures.
and here some sauke fans tells tht naruto always uses 9B and thts not true coz he uses it in the last resort while sasuke ALWAYS uses his ocular dojutsu.like wise you are telling that naruto used 9B i tell you tht nagato always used his rennigan .in addition from ur comment i felt like that nagato was afraid of using his chakta and wanted to preserve it ((("""and lets not forget kyubis help and that pain was ""forced""* to use even more chakra with shibaku tensei"""))).and also wot about nagato's age his experience this also shud be counted if ur going to state stupid lines as evidence.
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@ dark prince [96]
Kabuto is luring the leaf ninjas to a trap ... so they can make a clone out of 'em for espionage purpose ... i think :-)
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and i want to see the 6th person from endo tensei..that startel madara...could it be Izuna...
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wouldnt nagatos body be of value to kabuto in his experiments, after all, jiraiya stated that nagato had controll over all the elements, while sasuke and shodai hadnt
so
is it that kabuto ingnores that nagatos body is in posession of madara?
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wouldnt nagatos body be of value to kabuto in his experiments, after all, jiraiya stated that nagato had controll over all the elements, while sasuke and shodai hadnt
so
is it that kabuto ingnores that nagatos body is in posession of madara?
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@104
dude seriously there have been many trackers and even better ninjas than kabuto, but in order to find something you need to know if it exists, even kisame didn't know about tobi's real identity until madara chose to reveal to him and madara himself said that only itachi and handfull people knew about him who were very loyal to him like kisame who died for his sake, and it was shown nowhere that kabuto knew that madara existed but only after absorbing oro he found about madara's existence and his hideout as well!!
I'm off for now guys if time allows i will definitely look into your valuable insight...
No matter what goodness will always prevail!
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kabuto knew all along about akatsuki and madara, not oro, if oro knew about madara so far, he would knew about nagato and the rinnegan and go for the rinnegan instead of itachis eyes
kabuto is the spy, not oro
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@67..
In my opinion whether it's right or wrong Naruto did beat Nagato. In the end Naruto refrained from killing Nagato and Konan in the hopes it could bring peace, his actions bringing Nagato's change of heart and the revival of the villagers. Sure Nagato had plenty of chakra left, it still might not have been enough to finish Naruto. I'm not sure what you mean with your reference to Naruto needing strength of the toads, your forgetting he can summon Boss Gamabunta and this is a Jutsu, and one of the six paths of pain was a summoning specialist!! big three headed dog and massive rhino ringing any bells??
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@99
before leaving i read ur comment,
for starters kabuto wasn't a member of akatsuki he was a spy for sasori who was an akatsuki member and at that time no one but pain and konan knew about madara bcoz he was working behind the scenes and commanding pain, tobi was introduced in akatsuki after the death of sasori and the supposed death of deidara and even if it was kabuto who found about tobi by himself then i guess u r suggesting that kabuto was better ninja than previous akatsuki members who are S-class missing nins, including kisame... boy you need to get your facts straight!
anyways thats all for now folks! see ya later...
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to Roo said
well, nagato was really confident even after he used up most of his chackra and even after seeing kyubisage mode
if he really had no chance he would just had run, besides, lets not forget he had konan, a stubborn character if you font know about her abilities, which naruto ignored
of course, even if nagato vould win he could die in the process for wasting too much energy, so a retreat would be wiser
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@55
I can only assume it's depicting the flower of life symbology. Through Madara and Gezo's power, 100,000 white Zetsus have been given life.
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i want to see sasuke's eternal mangekyo
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so, the rival of the jubi requires all the bijus and some amount of chackra?
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@115
Well we may as well stop banging that drum coz they didn't end up fighting it out to the very end and Nagato is dead so we won't know... I suppose it just now comes down to who's more skillful. Naruto is awesomely strong with sage mode and his new controlled Kyubi power, and has massive amounts of ingenuity giving him the ability to make things up on the fly. We'll have wait and see how this ballances out against age and experience with Madara and Kabuto.
I get the feeling he's going to be busting out some of his dads moves and other techniques on instinct like the way he first pounded Kisame, or hopefully we get to see some training where Yamato and a couple of high level shinobi are just standing around gawking with WTF!!exclamations. I know Kakashi's not on the Island with them, but I can see his shitgrin under that mask when he hears about Naruto controling the Kyubie and becoming even stronger and smirks as he says "yep, I taught him well".
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@118
I think the Jubi is the 10 tails.. all the Biju combined.
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Kabuto is a root division spy of konoha...it is rather clear
that kabuto has its own agenda...while madara is looking to
possess a body; kabuto is looking for a powerful eye...in
some way or another they both have similar plan to
achieve strong body with strong eyes...kabuto led konoha
ninjas to the hideout for them to battle it out with
madara and for him to fight sasuke alone i think.
maadara mentioned earlier that white zetsus is not
in nature a warrior but the blak zeetsu is
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i want to know what will happen to deidara itachi and all the guys kabuto brought back if kabuto is killed. do they keep living? we didn't get to find out when it happened last time because the third sealed the first and second when he sacrificed himself.
plus, how is sasuke going to react when he finds out his brother was brought back and is being controlled?
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kabuto is heading out to find the 8 and 9 tails...gaara and
tsuchikage, part of an elite team, head to the island.
Gai is in agony while others are fine. looks like naruto
has recovered from sprain....
kabuto looks and feels very confident that he can take
the 8 and tails...i do feel for now that he can indeed
really take them out...but with gaara and tsuchikage and
shinobi there that make it very difficult fight...
so it will kabuto, deidara, kakuzu, nagato, itachi and
5th coffin vs naruto, bee, gaara, tsuchikage, yamato, and
other shinobi in the island.....
This should be a ten chapter epic battle! woooohoooo!
and i think sasuke here will make his appearance and help
out kabuto and naruto and company will make a retreat
being defeated...naruto will then realize he is weaker
than sasuke and he will seek to train again....5 chapters
of training....while kabuto seeks to fight sasuke after
retreat of naruto and company but madara will appear and
stop kabuto....then the alliance arrive in island
prompting madara and team to leave....next target 9 tails
...btw, 8tails will fall during the battle.....and madara
will appear at the retreating naruto......
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@122
no they won't keep on living...they are all dead...if you
remember the fight with oro and 3rd hokage they only posses
substitute dead bodies..only powers and a bit of
consciousness are summoned..but they can not go against
the will of the summoner...
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100K white zetsu is overkill.. but you know, it's anime, so maybe rock lee's 7th gate can wipe all of em off
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just like to point out that since naruto convinced nagato to kill himself mandara aka tobi aka WTF? no longer has a host for the 10 tailed beast. I for one think naruto with his new powers may become the new host? that's what i see in the future of naruto.
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woah! there are so many zetsu :O
yeah deidara is back in da picture yay :D
deidara is one of ma favorites =3
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Ohhhhhhhh Shittttttttttttttttttttttttttttt!
All theories are in trash can now...Finally after one month of lame plot Kishimoto finally showed some real story..
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is it just me or wen kabuto was showed the 1st hokage on page 10 down the bottom its almost as if it shows kabuto with a saddened face like he doesnt like seeing the 1st this way i found that interesting
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oro is still the final antagonist
naruto rocks!
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@Feanor Gedo Statue is once seen in anime/manga which being performed by Pain...
The 3rd/4th Hokage uses a shinigami(reaper dead seal) in w/c is desperately capture an enemy's jutsu like orochimari and the mask man(no identity)in exchange a life sacrifice
Shinigami(reaper dead seal) are the last trampguard as far as i know...702jutsu
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@126
I agree...Methinks Naruto might somehow end up being the host of the 10 tails.. He's allready a Jinchuriki with Senju heritage and possible Uchiha abilities thanks to Itachi, maybe he'll end up hosting all the tailed beasts, and become the all new and improved SO6P and kick Madara's arse!!
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How many insects that the Aburame Clan uses? i think this plant Zetsu can be defeated by an insects its enough for 100K Zetsu to be defeated we know that Shino wanna Show himself better than anyone....he has the guts to capture this Zetsu itself.....
however i wish that this clones are with different powers also i wish they are like the puppet that Chiyo uses against Sasori...
more excitement to come cant w8 4 more!!! 702jutsu
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This chapters biggest insight is to just how much Kabuto knows. The fact that he suprised both Madara and Zetsu is something everyone should have noted. Whether or not Kabuto was 'given' the information when he absorbed Orochimaru's DNA or discovered it while reading his reseach doesn't really matter. It is an insight as to just how much Orochimaru really knew. He had information that no one had! Madara would never have shown anyone his cave for any reason, unless the person wanting to see it already knew it was there.
So the intention of this episode is to inform the readers that Kabuto knows far more than his enemies can anticipate. It was obvious at the end with bird, that he knew the island that they were on was a moving island before hand. He may not know that it is a massive turtle, but he still knows it moves.
Kabuto, most likely has a well documented history of the Uzumaki clans 'special' abilities; as well as 4 volumes on Naruto. Volunteering to take the 8 tails shows one of two things: He either understands what it takes to take down the 8 tails because of documentation. Or he needs to fight the 8 tails to determine how to fight Naruto (because of their ability to control a beasts chakra). Either way, he is clearly prepared and beyond ready to fight an extremely intense battle. If we have learned anything of Kabuto he would not do this lightly. The 8 tails is the strongest opponent outside of a Tsunade frightened at the site of blood (which has been years and years in manga terms, maybe a decade).
I want to say that Kabuto will lose to the 8 tails, but I have some doubt. Only because him winning will make the story more interesting, as he is promised a Zetsu clone in return. He either wins or reinforcements show up and cause him to retreat. I do not see it happening any other way.
Remember people, the manga is called NARUTO. He won't die, period. He may die for a minute and than be resurrected, but he won't die. And if that happens, there will probably be some weird twist in which dying awakens the SO6P powers in his blood and he becomes SSJ-Infinity+1.
@126 Naruto did not convince, nor want Nagato to kill himself. Nagato chose the path of giving his life to restore the life of others. Period. Naruto did not want that but it worked out great.
Also, I wondered about Gezo for a minute because I assumed with Nagato gone that Gezo would dissapear. When you think about it, Gezo is a being that eats souls and living flesh essentially. If the Gezo that we've seen had Nagato present with large rods hanging out of Nagato's back we'd be competely right in believeing it would dissapear. However the only scenes before the one in this weeks manga, were of Gezo and Akatsuki around it meditating. Nagato must have released it after the first tailed beast was captured, making it, it's own entitity.
Gezo is just like the white Zetsus we see, it is without purpose until it is defined by another. Gezo is an instrument that needs to be used, it's purpose for this current segment of the manga is channeling power into life, instead of taking it. Gezo could have build up power over the years from all the life Nagato took, who knows. Eventually his power and purpose will be revealed, we can only wait until then.
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@129
i still believe kabuto is a root division spy of konoha!
which was given a very difficult task to collect as much
information on orochimaru's experiments and collect as
much intelligence on the activities of madara. i think
konoha elders has been trying to rid of madara for ages
but were not able to because they are not powerful
enough to take him out. orochimaru for all we know might
have been given a mission by the elders to take on
experiments in order for them to defeat madara. i think
elders have long known what madara has been trying to
achieve but could not find a way to stop him. they tried
to send oro and itachi and both were not able to gather
significant intel on madara and both failed to take out
madara. itachi came close as madara have said but still
he still possess relevant secrets that put him above the
rest.
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What happened to madara's hair? it seems to me he has no
hair now and the back of he's head looked white to me where
it was black before like the black zetsu!
i really wonder that. he really is a mystery. kishi keeps us
always surprised.
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@131
The technique used by the 4th portraid a different image altogther than what we see of Pain's creation. You don't see a blade or that devilish tongue. The statue is stoic and content. It doesn't seek or sulk, it's just a tool. The 'Dead-Reaper' consumed souls. It's method was by putting the person in an awake yet catatomic state. The person is unable to move but is fully aware. The chakra is drained rapidly, followed by the soul. Gezo or Gedo (mistype on my part in the previous posts) is not the same as the 'Dead-Reaper'.
They could be brothers or cousins though, who knows. The only thing I know, is that I don't want to be apart of that family tree.
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The only way that Naruto will become the Juubi host, is if he dies and is resurrected just like Gaara. The emotional pain that has inflicted psychological pain that none of us can measure will impact his judgement. He will belive that if does not accept the Juubi that others will go through the same pain that he went through as a child. Given his character, he won't allow that. Other than that, I cannot see him accepting that much power based upon what the manga has present so far regarding his personality.
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tobi is tsunade's brother, the small kid looked like naruto
thats why he got hashirama power i believe hehe hes a descendant after all kishi stated it. i promise so stop confusing ur self ok?? its no obito no shisui but it is tsunade brother
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So this means that the one with powerful eyes will be Itachi fighting Naruto then after He defeated Itachi, Kabuto will resurrect Minato but Naruto will find a way to stop his father then he will suck out the yang chakra and complete his sage of six path transformation.
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why did zetsu call him tobi??
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@138 and @139: Do you sell?
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@141 well thats the true 138 is correct as far as we know ur even later than us hehe
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When you stop serving tables at 2am you got to bed at 5am. It's just the way it works I did anything other than drink I wouldn't get my pitiful 4-5 hours sleep a night, and than wake up and study.
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Holy h*ll, going to bed now. I just read how many errors I made in the short, little post. It's been a long day.
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@143 i guess ur a geek xD ur a hikikomori
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Hey did anyone catch what Madara said about the Juubi?
He didn't say once he had it, his plans were finished.... Rather, this was "only" a "step"....
I have a feeling that this grander plan is something we'll only truly known once we see his entire face. (muhahahaha!)
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@ 83 "Gutsy"
You can only assume what would/wouldn't have worked on the First during that fight. Like everyone else here, (including yourself) it's just theories and assumptions. For example: I can assume that you can tell the difference between a man and a woman with or without clothes on.
BowDown
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@ 135 yeh there's definately something there imo maybe kabuto is a land of the whirlpool survivor secretly taken in by konoha and we know danzo and oro were helpin each other out even if they were suspicious of the other hence oro trying to take out the third to put danzo in power but yeh the more i look at that picture it just seems kabuto is hurt by the 1st being used like this, cant wait for the truth behind kabuto it will have a twist im sure
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yet another filler episode 180 sucks, and 181 doesn't look much better. what the f*** we need to get going on following the manga a little more. theres no reason for these fillers anymore.
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i didnt read everyone before me but i'm going to now this is why kabuto wouldnt want nagato's body it is because he is dead. he wants sasuke for the uchiha powers yamato for senju powers and zetsu for the ability to combine the two and as a scientist be able to do it better than madara plus tobi wantsa him to make it better so he can make his better.
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It is very much probable that we might see Kabuto vs. Tobi.
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Continued 151...
... sometime later in the manga!
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At Oronde 150, makes perfect sense. Maybe he wants to bring about a Rinnegan or a SO6P to manipulate. Or have a whole army of Rinnegan users.
To those Tobi conspiracies,please give it a break. Tobi is Madara. Or maybe he is really Naruto, or maybe he's Orochimarus left testikkle.
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i think garra only said he is going but it didn't show that the other kages agree with him so maybe in the next chapter there is a chance of others kages going for example riakage or even mizukage. but i think there will be more than one kage going there
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@154
that could be possible but you know they wanted to move in small numbers and as discreet as possible...but more kage's could come but i think most likely it will be the two because it is hinted in this chapter..and maybe it is time we see the real abilities of tsuchikage. he is the only living shinobi that has previous experience fighting madara.
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@20 : =)
i think Kabuto's summon wouldn't be as strong as the original, Sarutobi even beat the two great Senju zombie....(though id love to see it in battle since Kabuto said its better than both of the Edo Tensei of Orochimaru and Nidaime Hokage
just a few questions:
Where do you think the assistants of Danzou (Fu and Torune) go when Tobi teleported them...???
and what happened to Anko's team(i thought they found Kabuto just when he met with Tobi)...???
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oh heres something else i realised they said kabuto mastered the edo tensei jutsu so the persons summoned are on the same level as to when they died which would be scary for anyone going against akatsuki
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Hey look at the First Hokages Living Tissue in page 10 u guys,it has multiple hands growing out n a lil hand is abt to grow too.
This means tht madara's right side is the part having Hashirama's Tissue just like Danzou although Madara's is far more effective and he can attach n detach his hand cheeky lol so i wonder if its half his body or the entire body hving senju n uchiha cells growing together as 'THE SAGE OF THE SIX PATHS' thts y he is THE SECOND RIKODOU. Well if naruto wants to defeat madara dont let tht freak go to tht shit lol he will just attach all parts if he has to :) i think the page 10 pic in 512 with spikes is the same one in 486 page 5 where he puts his hand bak in place
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i keep forgeting to put this in. in stories of old a snake is normally to represent deciet and treachery but in this case wo is more decietful tobi or kabuto thats a question to all of you i think its tobi but who is more treacherous in that area i think its kabuto but they both have both areas i think that only kisame saw madara cause i still dont think tobi is really madara but madara is still in the shadows manipulating everyone and i think tobi is trying to betray madara and kabuto is an equal partner of the real madara
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When Kabuto said he was interested in acquiring Yamato , Tobi should be suspicious immediately .
I suspect Kabuto already knows about Izanagi . IMO , He plans to acquire Yamato first and then later Sasuke to make real his plans to acquire Izanagi and bring it to maybe a higher level than Tobi's .
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132 , that would be the biggest slap in the face that Tobi can get ..... like running a 10K race with no one behind you but to be overtaken with a metre to finish .
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140 , Zetsu has never called Tobi -> Madara hence the
Tobi is not Madara argument which always crops up.
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Where is Sasuke ?
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the perfected izanagi is what tobi showed it lasts as long as the user wants which is why he was able to dodge konans big attack he always keeps secrets even when he gives you some info he with holds some so as to always have the upper hand he trusts no one that is why he hasnt died because he still have many secrets.
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@ 140 decko
yeh zetsu is tobi's right hand man from the very start and he always calls him tobi?
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i am here
just read the chapter
not much bad chapter
not much good chapter
story sucks as it always do
and one piece is now far far ahead of naruto manga
as i said before kishi now really need to take break
take break for one or two month and then come back with
some story and art
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I think kabuto wants to get the power to controll the 10tails. and kill madara, and then naruto will stop kabuto with some emotional words just like pein.
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my theories for white zetsu were amazing true
also there were all sort of fools suspicious over tobi's
identity but now everyone consider him madara uchiha
this show how easily people change their mind and
thoughts and views .
now let me clear few things about naruto manga
whenever kishi say or show someone is powerful
that means in simple words is that
in future kishi will certainly degrade that character
the way kishi did with hashirama senju tobirama senju
madara uchiha pein uzumaki naruto
tobirama senju still holds some respect and confidence
as well as superiority because he did lots and lots
of things
madara uchiha if tobi actually is madara uchiha , holds
the most respect and courage and superiority the way he
ruled naruto manga
but still not following or having the uchiha's ego
let down him
uzumaki naruto always weaker than someone and always
defended by some character
uchiha sasuke same as uzumaki naruto
but hashirama senju was no. 1 in TAILED BEASTS dealing
and making village and ninja system
creating law and peace among countries
winning against madara uchiha
and creating beautiful lake AT THE VALLEY OF THE END
but he lost at the valley of the end
he was defeated beautifully
no peace arrived more hatred evolution
now a slave of tobi aka madara uchiha
experiment by danzu and orochimaru
completely destroyed by kishmoto
where is senju blood of hashirama
where are those 1000 jutsu
where is hos reputation nowhere
its kishi's habit to create some character and in future
destroy his personality and nature and character
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i think the gedo statue is the Juubi's shell without chakra.
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I have got two very important thngs to say over here. PLEASE DO READ AND REPLY
1. I always have thought that tobi is uchiha madara, but now I doubt it. have you people ever noticed that zetsu being one of madara's creation always calls him TOBI and not MADARA. there must be some good reason behind this. also tobi has never used his EMS in the series yet. he only uses sharingan.
2. the corpse that kabuto showed tobi cant be the 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th hokage since all of their souls have been sealed for good by the dead demon seal. seals which have been sealed by dead demon seal cant be brought back by impure world ressurection jutsu.
since madara only feared and respected hashirama senju he couldnt be scared by anyone elses corpse. this could very well mean that tobi isnt madaraa but someone else who knows a lot about what happened in the past. maybe kabuto showed madara's corpse to tobi.
WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THIS?? PLEASE DO REPLY
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I just want to say that this world is consist of good and bad. And good always overcome bad even bad increase in number good always have power of truth. And its promise of our God that truth will win.
Its natural thing that we love good people and want them to win whatever the situation. But as we can see people like UZUMAKI the PAIN. They are who support darkness and think that light has been captured but Light has to come out of dark. No uzumaki the pain can stop light to come out of dark.
So Naruto is a light who will defeat so called madara what ever he will do the naruto has to defeat him even with single of his punch which will have the power of light the light comprised of people's believe in him.
But kishi must make this good, he should not just increase creepy things like root of cell to make zetsu. He should show the power which Minato thought that naruto should have and konan believed and others who saw in naruto which even he didn't tried to think. But now he should realize and show every one that he is what everyone believed before dying for him.
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hashirama senju Must have been a Super bad ass. Everyone want to get there hands on his DNA.Everything we hear about him and the SO6P's Comes from Madara i cant wait to get a flash back about him that comes from another source like and elder of the leaf or a scroll with the secret to unlocking his powers.
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@170
I actually believe that Tobi is Madara.... With that being said, lets assume that Madara doesn't have his own body. That along this path to a higher existence... He lost his own body. So this Body is "Tobi" but is still Madara.
I mean why does Zetsu have a name if Madara/Tobi created him/it??????????????
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@170
I actually believe that Tobi is Madara.... With that being said, lets assume that Madara doesn't have his own body. That along this path to a higher existence... He lost his own body. So this Body is "Tobi" but is still Madara.
I mean why does Zetsu have a name if Madara/Tobi created him/it??????????????
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Opps! Sorry about the repeat.
And I think that the corpse Kabuto has is obviously...
One Kick-A Dude that died
a long, long time ago in a galaxy far far away...
Darth Sidious!!!!
(Ha ha ha)
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@ 171
I really like that Post... I think that's an accurate description of a savior (for the ninja world it's Naruto)
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so if the white zetu can be copied and multiplied what can the black half do?..mmm(white=light? maybe black=the darkness?..)
~any thoughts~
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@ 156
the people that kabuto broght back do have the same power that they had be for they died.
@ 172
te first was not all that good and there is still are some people out there who will murder the first hokage the only reason why orochmaru like him cause of his wood.
and i hope that orochimaru come back i really hope he dose it will be so good
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My views:
all the zetsu's in madara's army were made in-part by hashirama's dna thus making them very strong, kabuto is a mad scientist who can make a better integration with the first's dna (making the clones even stronger). kabuto wants to experiment on yamato b'cuz he was orochimaru's only successful integration with the first's dna. i think the better the dna integration is, the more powerful the person becomes. madara can't use wood-style jutsu and yamato can even though both of them has the same dna integration.
Madara want himself to be the host of the 10 tails to have massive powers but he needs someone to sync with the gedo statue to give life-form to the beast.
-::ChicoDon::-
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@ 179
So then, the "someone" or Sasuke, that syncs with the Gedo Statue....
Will He die?
I think that is Madara's intention, but then I don't know how that process really works
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funny chapter poor old man also interesting 100,000 he said damn but where the hell is sasuke! and what about the rest of konoha sakua kakashi sai ect what about them they just dissapeared!I want to know
satakochan
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Wherever this hideout is.... It definitely is far from Konoha... because of Danzo.
That while Danzo wanted power, he never trusted the Uchiha and Danzo himself has known about Madara for some time. Meaning, he has either conspired (unlikely) or secretly waged a hidden war with Madara (somewhat of good evidence)
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on the first page, kishi has strongly hinted that kabuto will be the last enemy. we should also expect some interesting fights. the best fight would be madara + kabuto + sasuke + 100,000 zetsus vs. naruto + bee + other jonin on the island (except for guy because he's injured) + 80,000 shinobi from the five villages. it would be like on of those war movies. only thing is, kishi won't do that because kabuto will be the final enemy
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~Drone~
Well my (crazy, at least by the time i started thinking about it) theory about zetsu being a creation of Tobi, and that Zetsu is the key to Tobi's plans is proving to be right after all.
Now to the chapter at hand...
Tobi told kabuto that he is going to give him one Zetsu body if he brought back the 9 tails. Hmmm i wonder how the story is going to progress for both sides (allies and villains) if he succeeds or doesnt succeed, accordingly. It is obvious that kabuto has his own plan and agenda, and for that to happen he needs to create a situation where the is a balance in forces between allies and Tobi. But at the same time he needs to gain Tobi's trust to advance his own plan.
I bet that he will bring either the 8 tails to Tobi (leaving Naruto untouched so the allies have a weapon against Tobi and at the same time winning Tobi's trust) or he will take (or convince naruto) the 9 tails chackra that naruto has locked in him with the new sealing technique.
What are your thoughts guys?
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guys to me it makes sense if Madara was a clone too... He died in the fight with Hashirama but took the cells and ordered zetsu to merge and clone him with the cells of Hashirama somehow he transfered his soul too... that would explain Itachis quote that Madara is marely a shall of the powerful Madara he once was... or 2nd option Tobi is the son of hashiramas wife and Madara...
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hey guys :D great chapter much better then 511 so much happend in this one do you guys think deidara will join in the fight? or kabuto against everybody?
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@ 186
dedara is going to do what ever kabuto tell him
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I know but kabuto is seriously out numbered he needs to bring back deidara, sasori, kakazu, itachi and nagato if he wants to stand a chance theres 2 many powerful shinobi there for him to do it on his own, it'd be intresting if he could use those dead akatsukis techniques.
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@ 188
i just hope that orochimaru come back
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Maybe kabuto wants one zetsu body so he could find out how to get rid off ORO. power and be cleansed from it.
He knows he is losing himself from it and he cant stop it or slow it. (something like cancer)
Kabuto is just trying to save himself
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maybe he wants a zetsu clone so he cud transfer orochimarus dna to that and itll take over the clone and he will come back that way haha
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@ 188
he already broght back all of them and can use there techniques so what are you talking about
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@192 i was wondering if people thought he would use them in the fight is all i know he has already brought them back
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@ 193
um yea that will make the war more intresting and i still feel like orochimar is going to take over his body
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@ kevin stupid questions,
1st madara got tissues from there last battle
2nd,wtf r u talking about? Zetsu is a CLone!made from that beast thingy.
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What about the black half of Zetsu? And why doesn't Kabuto resurrect Kisame?
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I was starting to think that there was more than one Zetsu, but I swear I didn't think he'd have that many. That would also explain why he can lose so many body parts and get them back. I'm still thinking he has some small villages at his disposal in case his Zetsu Army doesn't work. My guess as to why Kabuto knew about it is because Orochimaru was trying to get info on Akatsuki, and he probably discovered that when he was snooping, and since Kabuto has infused Orochimaru's Cells with his own, he's probably gained most of his knowledge as well. That would be the only thing that makes sense.
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@ 197
i just hope orochimaru take over him
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zetsu is the answer to how tobi can 'generate' his arms
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wat if the twists was like bleach you have to become getsuga, so like the third form of rasagan was some ultra brolic mother f**ker that would be funny lol
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