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493 闇ナルト！！
表紙は
左がナルト 右が闇ナルト
タイトルは闇ナルト！！だよ。
ポポが作った人形ゴクウみたいに 同じ力でぶつかりあうから決着はつかないの。
影分身しても、闇ナルトも影分身。
ヤマトから、ナルトを見ると
ただ座ってるだけにしか見えない。
ゼツなんか出てこないよ。
Original Script:
ナルトVSナルト
決着つかず。
雷忍（世話役）はビーを殺そうとしたと過去の話をしだす。
30年前いったい何が。。。。
ビー子供のころからグラサンかけてる。
ジャンプ表紙ナルトと子ナルト
Chinese Script:
鸣人vs鸣人
还没有得出胜负
提起了关于雷忍（干事）过去想要杀掉比的一些事情
30年前到底发生了什么
比小时候帶太阳镜
封面是鸣人对假鸣人
English Script by Nightjumer:
Naruto VS Naruto
It's not settled.
A Rai-nin(mediator) begins telling the story about when someone tried to kill Bee...
Just what happened 30 years ago...
Bee has been wearing sunglasses since he was a kid
On the SJ cover is Naruto and young Naruto
More by Evil:
Naruto fights against his dark version who represents his hatred. They both call each other the fake Naruto.
Meanwhile, Bee is beating some huge bears at Sumo and Hachibi tells Bee that he should help Naruto. Hachi says he hates Kyubi but that Hachi used to be bad back in the day before meeting Bee. Bee tells himto shut up and say he won't accept that idiot who insults rap. This part ends with Bee saying "Plus he..."
Naruto and Yami-Naruto are evenly matched in everything and Naruto wakes up and explains the situation to Yamato and Motoi.(the battle was all in Naruto's mind, BTW) Motoi explains that you can't control the Bijuu unless you can win this fight. Naruto asks about Bee and Motoi explains how Bee was hated by everyone but got over it by learning how to express himself. And also that he was able to put up with it because he didn't want to make his brother, the Raikage, look bad. Basically, he accepted the sacrifice for his brother's sake. Naruto asks Motoi to ask Bee to help him but Motoi says he can't. The reason being that Motoi once tried to kill Bee. Next week will focus on a tragic situation that happened 30 years ago...
A little more information. Yami-Naruto says that the Kyubi likes him a lot more than Naruto, and you get to see a shot of a Young Raikage and a Goofy Bee as a kid.
Title of the chapter is "Yami-Naruto", or "Dark Naruto".
Added
The title is Dark Naruto
The cover is Naruto on the left and Dark Naruto on the right.
Naruto and Dark Naruto crash with the same power.
Naruto use bunshin and Dark Naruto is bunshin also.
Yamato ~ He can only see Naruto's sitting.
No Zetsu this week.
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163 comments:
FIRST!! Hopefully this chapter won't disappoint. Flashbacks are always good though.
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*Vearn*
2nd
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Xx*TO-LOVE-Ru*xX
aw
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Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bakuman/v02/c009/5.html
lol, i really loled when i looked this
NO H <<< dang everytime i sent a post, i also must seng this note too :P
believe it no H
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5th haha
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6th haha
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This sounds interesting.....
Have any of you seen the trailer for the 4th Naruto Shippuuden Movie?
Naruto looks like he's learned some new stuff..
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Isnt it too early?
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I want to see Bee finish his lines.. I want to know his last argument of why he doesn't want to help Naruto.
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Naruto+Minato is nice, but its not something Kishi would do. Its not right. It's like bringing Sasuke's father back, and having them spend their time together. It doesn't feel right xD
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10th! yes!!!!!
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I actually cant wait for the 4th naruto shippuden movie. Minato is my favorite character, its gona be great to finally see him in action. As for this chapter, im a bit excited, everything is culminating in a giant climax coming soon(relatively). Same with bleach for those of you who also read that.
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HAHA 12TH
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@4
in this chapter naruto is really there xDDDD
and i am glad that we got our spoiler, the chapter goes more and more ionteresting!!!
I like that
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i believe that minato will show up only to advice naruto.i dont think he is gonna fight.
about the manga.it just my opinion bee will help naruto after they fight with kisame.gai should learn some new tricks if he wants to defeat kisame:)
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if there's gonna be 30 years flash back, how old is Bee anyway?
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O_o
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finally something to read.
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Naruto shippuden movie 4
Assigned on a mission to capture Mukade, a missing-nin, Naruto Uzumaki sets out for the once glorious historic ruins of “Ouran”, where he pursues and corners the rogue ninja. Mukade’s goal is revealed to be a dormant leyline within the ruins; he unleashes the power of the leyline, causing a light to envelop Naruto, sending him into the past, 20 years before the series began. When Naruto awakens, he comes into contact with the Fourth Hokage, His father, Minato Namikaze.
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#15
i dunno exactly but naruto is 16, and itachi is about 24 as i know so Bee should be 28-30, he looks as old as Iruka and he is 28 or 29 as i know
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#15 so the 30 years of flash back looks correct, maybe he is a little older because Raikage is about 40 i think because he looks older a lot than bee but younger than Jiraya
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#18
Yeah the funny part is what i jsut said, naruto is 16 so 20 years ago he was -4 :D, at that time maybe Minato not even knew Kushina since she was originaly a hidden whirpool nin but her vilage was not neaded or i dunno but it is just vanished.
Anyhow finaly a story that looks good, the Movie 3 was realy wierd, and pointless
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*clecle*
#21
yeah, i didnt like this last movie very much, naruto movies got too predictable, the ones i like best was the first of all, those with the rich kid and bonds (only because sasuke appeared xD)
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Looks promising
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your right, it was useless. same wold has been repeated like 100 time. I stuck to what you taught me kakashi sensie...... this wold made it lame.
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Looks like Motoi and Bee
have some bad history
denying Narutos plea
what will happen we wil see Yea!
If Naruto Bee will train
But he thinks has no brain
So i think he will refrain
Till Naruto drives Bee insane Yo!!
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I hope by tomorrow or Monday we will get the full chapter. It will be good to see the other reason why Bee won't train Naruto. Probably something about not greeting him properly as Motoi mentioned to Naruto.
I'm thinking that Motoi at one time probably hated the hachibi for some reason and tried killing Bee to get to the Hachibi. probably one or more of Motois immediate family was killed by the Hachibi.
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Naruto gets pissed off because Bee won't train him so Guy teaches Naruto how to break dance. After he learns his slick moves from Guy he goes back to Bee and tells him to drop a beat and he starts to bust a move. Bee is sooo impressed he agrees to train Naruto...
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good one #27
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great one 27 indeed your imagination crossed 2 weeks of boredom
5 stars for your post
exactly what i thought and many more had thought is happened in this chapter
2 chapters will be for killerbee's past
and some more arguing
hence 5 more chapters are ruined
but will be the most significant chapters
and i am kinda looking forward to it
because these are the chapters that will make the efforts of madara sama fruitful
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XXlolXX
i know why were not seeing sauske
EMS WENT WRONG AND TOBI KILLED SAUSGAY TO COVER IT UP
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why is kishi shwin so much eyes
its because madara uchiha long time dream is becoming true
bu capturing all tailed beats madara uchiha aka tobi will
create a virus that will only infect eyes
and by that way if you can't see then how can you fight to your maximum potential
and madara uchiha's wins for sure
and the whole naruto world become his property moreover
madara uchiha's eye transplantation hospital will gonna rise up
and there will be monopoly by uchiha clan
and zetsu will be very handy indeed
he will be board of directors of plastic surgery of humans
and we will in a year see new billionaires of naruto world as well as human world
the real mission is to blind people
so money can be picked or stolen from their pockets legally
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Xx*To-LOVE-RU*xX
yabuki, you'd better continue what you've started
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bakuman/v03/c024/7.html
cause everyone like it :P ^^'v
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Crazy E,
I think Naruto is missing the point, he is trying to fight his hatred which is impossible. Hes suppose to understand his hatred that way he will be able to control it. Hatred is always around us, if we fight it, it will consume us. All we gotta do is know it is there and learn how to calm it.
Naruto believes that he has no hatred that is why he thinks the dark naruto is fake but actually the good naruto is the fake one since he burried his hatred deep inside. Hes suppose to let it out and that is the point of the training
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#33
the only way to defeat the hatred is speech no jutsu :p
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Now it is pretty sure, that the hachibi isn't evil.
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I JUST watched naruto shippuden 147
and the forbidden jutsu wielder girl hotaru
has something on her back
if seen closely then i think i have found something
can that be a possibility that aizen has interfered in naruto world
we have already seen reaper god shinigami
dead people became alive
so why not shinigami
maybe maybe tobi aka madara uchiha is aizen behind the mask
the hotaru girl had hogyoku behind her
well its clearly a joke and fun
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#δelta#
After reading the spoiler, I am damn sure about my theory now -
When the Jubi was divided, the 9 parts divided, and each part contained a separate part of the Jubi's mind. Looks like the Hachibi got the humor side... and the Kyuubi got the extreme hatred part - bad luck to it.
And the Kyuubi is affinated to the Uchiha because there clan structure is built on hatred - and they were the ones the Kyuubi had most in common to. Likewise, the Senjuu were the ones the Kyuubi hated - BUT ADMIRED! - most. I'll leave you guys to guess why.
And continued on Naruto, he still hates the villagers. That's plain. And the Kyuubi latches on that, since it's the only way to take over him, and that's why Naruto ust defeat his dark side to control it. Even if he succeeds, the Kyuubi is the most evil of the 9 Bijuu, and finding it's light side will be like... almost impossible. And the Kyuubi also most resembles the Jubi - which is moe bad news, as we all know what the Jubi was like.
So, after all the flashbacks end, I'll be interested to see how he controls the Kyuubi.
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38 oelta i liked and got your point
you are just saying that every part of personality and nature of jyubi was dived into those 9 tailed beast
its a very common funda and trick used
but i never thought about it that way
so i am giving you points for it
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we all know the outcome but
the action is the spice
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boring boring boring ...
kishi, wake up ... this way you are going to tell about your childhood too ...
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@42
if this is for you boring, than read a other manga!
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I think the only reason why Killer Bee don't want to train our knucklehead is because like Sasagay, he is also an lesbian, so of course he is offenive when Naruto show his sexy no jutsu.Finally rememeber that once a male or female octopus has "mating", it will soon die. That why :D
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There is something more between Kyuubi and Naruto ...
We don't know most of Naruto's secrets yet ...
see ... almost everyone has bloodline limit ... for Naruto it is not revealed yet ... although his father was so clever and i'm sure his mother too ... how that happened that Naruto is so stupid ... so there should be some reason to that ... we don't know how Naruto's mother died ... maybe she is still alive? ...
and the most important ... recall to the chapter when Naruto meets Sasuke in Orochimaru's hideout ...
there Sasuke is able to see Kyuubi inside Naruto and suppress it ... and there Kyuubi tells Sasuke ... that he should not kill Naruto ... otherwise .. he will live to regret it ...
what do you think does this mean?
why would Kyuubi bother about Naruto?
any ideas?
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one more point in addition to #44
why Kyuubi's and Orochimaru's eyes look the same snake-way?
what's that eye's power?
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the fudel lords r just az crooked az madara aka obito, eventualy everything and everyone gne be connected for the finale...guy and kisame gne rumble while bee trains naruto....but one ending i wouldnt mind 2 c iz saskue joining up with naruto cause everything is obvious at the moment but wat if saskue suddenly rediscovers his bond wit team 7...
pslaylow....
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i asked about that a while ago, but wat i think that the kyubi has some sort of history with da uchias cauze in the secret uchia meeting spot it explains something about the 9tails, i wonder if madara is actually obito and the 9tails iz madara lol...
pslaylow
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i want to see soime pictuers, i hope that i will see today something!!!
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susake and kabuto is on a super deep cover mission to take out the akutsaki that is why they are doing what they are doing. they have to make it look like they are bad but they have been put on this mission long age. while susake had it implanted by his brother that night when he killed off his clan. kabuto was put on when he was trained up in the leaf by the medical ninjas. but nobody knows so it wont be any leaks. thats there will of fire.
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bad naruto bad!! >.<
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naruto versus bad naruto is like bleach's ichigo while fighting in control of his bankai, zangetsu
kgk
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This naruto episode is really very interesting.In This episode fighting scene is really awesome.
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to add on to 48 comments in shippuden 39 they went to meet the spy and it was kabuto. he did not have to come but he did. he did not know oro was following him. he wanted to spill the beans on oro and try to take out an akutsaki member. that is why kabuto never attacks naruto. naruto dad probably gave him that mission when he was young.
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who told Kabuto didn't know Oro was comming?
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interesting spoiler.. can't wait to see the original chapter. i think naruto vs bad naruto is a classic theme in comic world, even Superman has that chapter too..
comment about the latest movie.. yeah.. the story is suck but i glad that i can see naruto's friends in action. I think for the next movie the main theme should be something about Konoha's history or something happen in the ninja world before Naruto's birth...
.lex.
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@ 52
Kabuto knew Orochimaru was following him. They had planned on destroying Sasori themselves.
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#48,
naruto is so bcoz of th kyui...it was said in 1 of th episodes dnt remember which 1...kyubi's chakra is doin tht...may b wen he learns to control kyubi he will become more smart...he is smart evn nw...;)
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#56
kui-->kyubi.!!
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RPP.
Well, actually the only thing that naruto has to do is to improve while fighting (just like guy, Ten - Ten, Neji and Lee did while searching for gaara). He should probably look from advice from Guy to defeat his dark side.
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@#56,
naruto is smarter than before but he still aint on a jounin's level. he smart when it come to fighting but he aint a tactician.
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shot out to Joetatoo yo. lol. I had my killerbee moment for the rest of the year.
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Just to reiterate what was posted in post #59,
Naruto has become smarter as far as battle sense, but he is not on the level of intelligence as Kakashi, Neji, Kurenai, Iruka, etc..... One can go as far as to make the bold statement that he has become wiser in battle due to experience. Naruto has a lot more experience than any of his peers due to the Kage Bunshin no Jutsu. Each time he duplicates or replicates himself he gains the expeirece of the replicant. Which is one of the reasons why it was a forbidden jutsu.
I believe that he would be a little wiser if it were not for the influence of the negative energy of the nine tailed fox demon. Whenever Naruto's negative emotions become unstable all perspicacious reasoning becomes a thing of the past and the NTFD is allowed free reign over Naruto's body. An inteligent ninja doesn't allow his emotions to overtake him.
Kishi is a keen writer because he understands that when a person allows negative emotions to overtake them, they are actually shortening their life span. The NTFD represents negative emotions and every time it overtakes him, Naruto's life is shortened. This page of the manga explains. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/291/11/
Therefore it would behoove Naruto to learn how to control the nine tail chakra without the negative energy. Some may say that it isn't wise to suppress negative energy. That isn't accurate. It isn't wise to suppress negative emotions. But you can suppress negative energy. Take Killer-Bee for instance. He is able to cloak himself with the eight tailed demon's energy without shortening his life. This is because he isn't using negative energy. He is using positive energy.
Naruto will be able to do this. He must if he is ever going to become Hokage. A wise man understands his emotions and does not extinguish them. Naruto is going to have to understand this if he ever hopes to master Sage mode. He is a sage now but is he a perfect one? His father was a perfect sage. Sage is another word for intelligent. And for one to truly be a perfect sage they would need to have complete mastery of their emotions.
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to 61.
i like that man. how you know his pop was a sage.
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@ 61,
1. We know that the 4th (Minato) was a sage because of what he wore. He wore a sage robe just like his predecessor (Jiraiya)and his successor (Naruto). In the manga Naruto you can identify people by their garments. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/430/19/
2. In the first episode when Minato was fighting the nine tail he was on a toad(Gamabunta from the looks of it).
3. The younger toads asked pa toad did he saw those familiar figures? Which were Minato & Jiraiya. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/430/19/
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2 63.
Thanks man. It makes a whole lot of sense.
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My apologies my last post #63 was in regards to post # 62.
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it's already wednesday and no translation yet. sigh, tired of waiting.
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@63
point 1,2,3 arent a proof.
point 2: naruto was able to summon gamabunta, but he wasnt a sage!
point 3: this came, when naruto surpassed his father and jiraya with sage mode. and why the fukusaku didnt say about minato that naruto surpassed him?
point 1: and where is wrote that the robe is a sage rope???
maybe he got it from the frog, because he did a effort/perdormance (like naruto with sage mode) or bcoz he gots the hokage title.
this can be, but you cant say that THIS IS SO!
you have no proof.
you have just a few approaches, that this can be. but that doesnt mean that this is it!
its nothing against you,but i hate if somebody says his theory, and think that this is true, or of natural/self-evident/obvious
richiesvw11
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@61
can it be that with sage mode naruto extended his life?
fukusaku his over 800 years old
@richiesvw11
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@68
@richiesvw without @ i mean
richiesvw11
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Hmmmm... Come to think of it. Obito's hair style and madara's is same. He only shows his right eye always and that was the side crushed under the rock. In the chapter where he tries to show sasuke his sharingan his face is all screwed up. But if u see his body he's fine.
In an interview kishi revealed by accident that madara may not be the final enemy. he mentioned that before he was known as the teleporter. That refers to only one guy till now. The first uchiha itachi killed to awaken mangekyo. The one known to have drowned in the river.
So many ambiguities and such a wonderful story. We must really appreciate kishi.
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That final edo tensei kabuto performed scared the shit out of madara. I just hope its not the fourth hokage or someone like that. Just think of it...
Itachi, Pain, Sasuke and someone like fourth hokage fighting as one against konoha. Creeps me out.
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@52
I hope you are joking -.-
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Encrypto
For those who didnt notice yet: The first chapters are full of hints for future naruto chapters...
Just look at THIS (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/4/01/) picture and you'll see what i mean...just read the first chapters and you'll know how naruto manga will end...
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/2/12/
Look at the first picture in the top bottom corner...
There are still two rocks left to be formed to a hokage's face, one will be tsunade and the other will be naruto, cuz danzou wasnt hokage for long enough to get his own rock :D
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@67,
richiesvw11
No offense to you but what makes you think Minato wasn't a sage. What proof do you have that he wasn't. In the manga people are identified by their garments and specific designs or marks on their clothing. Neji & Hinata, Sasuke, Choji, Shino, Kiba, etc...... Look at their clothing. Jiraiya, Minato, & Naruto have the same robe on. The only difference are the colors.
We also know that Minato was a genius. Why would he not have been a sage. I went as far as to explain that another word for SAGE is INTELIGENT or GENUIS.
Read chapter 430 pg. 19-20. As a matter of fact re-read the entire chapter.
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kyubi is such and unimaginable power that a normal human
being no matter how much powerful ninja he is can't control
so its clear that minato was in sage mode when he captured
and sealed NINE TAILED DEMON FOX into naruto
if minato wasn't a sage at the time of kyubi sealing
then we can surely sat that he was awesome
and the most powerful hokage and kage ever born
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TRUE DAT!
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hey
you remeber that itachi is blind when he die?
and now sasuke implant his eyes...
implant blinded eyes!
sounds funny...
that the same way happens with madara and his brother
they changed eyes!
when they did it, his brother never apear again... living in the shadow of madara...
so madara die when fight with hachirama
yes he isnt superman
so... who is tobi?and who is in the coffin of edo tensei?
tobi is madara brother
and the coffin is the fucking madara
that is clear
just because who know the complete history of madara ?
only his brother is able to make the people think that his is really madara
remember that exist changing facial jutsus like orochimaru ever use...
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YES
THAT IS TRUE
NARUTO MANGA IS GETTING FREAKING BOARING
EVERYTHING IS SO MESSED UP
SPECIALLY SASUKE STUFF
WHY
WHY
WHY???
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TRANSLATION PLEASE!!
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@utp
so its clear that minato was in sage mode when he captured
that isnt clear. because now wqhere in the manga is written that he was a sage, so wont belive until it is wrote in the manga. the same for madara/tobi story!
richiesvw11
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hey richie let me understand what u did said in 80
1. i never said minato knew sage sage techniques
2.there is no proof manga provide for it too
3. but manga databook kishi all say tobi === madara uchiha
so that's a truth
even i know that things are quite easy and simple
so whatever it is its human nature to be suspicious
i have also
i also have suspicion over madara uchiha identity
but from mt heart i really don't want tobi to be madara uchiha
now people do underestimate NINE TAILED DEMON FOX
when NINE TAILED DEMON FOX chakra to naruto people saw it with amazement
but after that they say NINE TAILED DEMON FOX has nothing
so people let me tell ya whoever is able to control
NINE TAILED DEMON FOX he/she is next to SAGE OF SIX PATHS
and minato as human as shinobi as powerful shinobi can't control him alone
so i believe he took help and sage can be the really great help
i never wanted naruto to control NINE TAILED DEMON FOX
I NEVER WANT THIS THING TO HAPPEN
i mean controlling kyubi is nearly nearly impossible
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@utp
point 3, if that is true with the data book, then i will believe.
butcontrolling kuybi is possible,
did you forgot the first hokage???
hachibi, we dont know how difficult he is, but he is sure very strong, he only have one tail less kyubi.
and bee isnt a sage.
but thats we dont know why he can controll him easily,
and if naruto can controll kyubi without sage. than it should be possible.
SO6P, he is a sage. but i dont now a frog sage like naruto? Cypher: The Child Of Promise said that sage means genius also. [so they can be different sage titels(its just an theorie)]
sage
genius of six path
genius of sage mode
...
this is also a theorie from me.
but now one of us have a proof that minato/yondaime was a sage. so how orlie always says: we just can wait for the chapters :)
see ya guys
richiesvw11
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Thats too far fetched. Remember that when itachi and tobi both explain about madara's history they both refer to his brother dying for his sake.
So his brother's dead. The only thing we can do now is believe he is madara. BTW 4th knew someone was behind the kyubi attack on konoha. He specifies to naruto that it was tobi when he re-seals the fox during that pain's battle. I think it is madara anyways.
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Don't you guys feel that minato being the yellow flash was his blood line limit? I mean, I know its just transportation technique that uses markers but nobody has been able to do it till now. The speed even the sharingan can't see.
Think of Naruto defying sharingan, like the yellow flash.
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Thats right guys. That pic tells a lot. The three students of the sannins walking the path of their teachers. Maybe they too will become sannins one day. I really hope sasuke returns as a good guy
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@86
Stop making such weird comments. If u have a close friend who u like very much that doesn't make u gay couples. BTW that was a pathetic joke
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ok richie let me clear some things
i never said that to control a tailed beast you need sage
more powers. its just that you twisted my words and pick
or made some holes through them
hashirama was able to control beasts
madara uchiha was able to control kyubi
so6p created the term jinchuriki
gaara controlled shukaku
that lady controlled her cat magnificently
if we took fillers
3rd tail as controlled somewhat by yuukimaru
6th tail controlled by this hotaru's master utakata
sage of six path was sage or not i don't know
as this word sage is associated with him and he defeated
magnificent god 1o tailed beast we can conclude that
he was a sage maybe he is a sage and i don't remember
this thing ends here
now other part
when said you need sage mode then i had mean that
to control a beast like KYUBI OR NINE TAIL DEMON FOX
U NEED very powerful techniques and chakra
since minato can have powerful techniques but where
chakra came from hence his being a sage chances are high
this clear 2 things maybe maybe minato knew sage
techniques 2nd thing is that people are again
underestimating the powers of NINE TAILED DEMON FOX
i don't know about killerbee and his past
and i don't have anything to say too
you people know when a jinchuriki die his
beast get his freedom again
but shinobi's are such a greedy animal they make another
jinchuriki at the same time or before the death of
present jinchuriki
actually its usage not greediness
did everyone saw how richie misunderstood my words
i am not saying anyone or richie is say fault or guilty
i am just saying thaings can be seen in different light
too
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hollow itchigo....... hollow naruto... whats the difference....
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is any one there from india
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hey how about this joke my brother cracked right now
RIKUDO SENIN AND MADARA UCHIHA ARE PLATING CARD OR SHOUGO
AND 1O TAILED DEMON BOX APPEARED
SO6P AND MADARA UCHIHA'S EYE'S 1ST SHOW SURPRISE AND
SHOCK
BUT THEN MADARA UCHIHA AND SO6P EYES GLITTEN OR SHINE
AND AT THAT MOMENT 1O TAILED BEST SAY
10 TAILED BEAST===================== MAY I JOIN U
lets just imagine how much funny this joke will look in
a picture fanfiction
i changed it somewhat
my version
rikudo is talking to his sons
both brothers eyes are in anger
suddenly madara uchiha appeared
madara uchiha aka tobi========== banzai banzai
at last i found the 1o tailed beast
my moon eye plan will succeed now
so6p elder son================= fool just get a satellite
and u are done
i am done with it my successors are dumbshell
my little brother you become the new king and successor of
sage of six paths
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@utp
you said :"i mean controlling kyubi is nearly nearly impossible"
because of this i thought that you mean you need sage mode to controll.
but i dont want to make you wrong!
then i didnt understood it correctly.
and what minatos all jutstus we dont know.
what else, we must wait, then we see, if he is a sage or not. maybe we see this in naruto shippuuden movie 4.
so have fun ppl
richiesvw11
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man the biggest indian is here and no one know about him
92 richie i understand u
where are u MZ SAMA and X BEAST
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can ne one translate whats written ,if they can read it????
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I was expecting at least see Sasuke new eyes or Madara going after the rinnegan eyes of Nagato´s dead body
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Pickletron
Greetings!
@ Cypher 61 & 74
Let's not confuse the terms here. As you said Cypher, Sage mean that one is a wise person but look at the context used. Yes, Minato is very skilled and possibly one of the strongest shinobi to ever live besides Sage of the Six Paths & Hashirama, but as far as being a disciple of Senjutsu... that he was not! Let's look at the terms used...
Sennin = (informally) it refers to someone being wise and prude.
Senjutsu = (directly) it refers to those who practice the arts of Sage mode. The only known practitioners of Senjutsu are Jiraiya and Naruto. Fukasaku never made mention of Minato being a practitioner. He only made reference that Jiraiya practiced it, but never mastered it.
I am quite sure that if Minato was a practitioner of Senjutsu (or Sage mode), Fukasaku would have made sure Naruto knows about it.
By the way Cypher, one last comment... You say that Minato was a sage because of his clothing... Is that the only proof to validate that he is a sage? You say that richiesvw11 didn't have proof that Minato was not a sage, but you do not have any proof to prove he IS a sage. The only time you can declare that Minato was a sage is when Kishimoto-san declare Minato as one. Otherwise this is just another Tobi = Obito kind of fanfiction. Tobi never claimed to be Obito, but people are still believing in it anyway. However, Tobi claimed himself to be Madara... then we have no choice to accept that until proven otherwise. Similarly to the court system... You are innocent UNTIL proven guilty; so right now, Minato is NOT a sage until proven otherwise, and Tobi is NOT Obito, but rather Madara UNTIL proven otherwise by Kishimoto-san.
(P.S. I know Orlie was the one who says that he is following his "own path" in the Narutoverse, but you can't do that if you are NOT the creator of the manga. If you believe that Tobi is Obito, and later Kishimoto-san reveal that Tobi is Izuna, will you still believe that Tobi is Obito since you are following your "own path"?)
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Hopefully the question of Minato being a sage will be answered in the 4th Shippūden movie, along with many other loose ends.
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hey guys
could we change the subject? what's about Sasuke?
I wonder how kishi makes him to turn good...
I mean, it's nearly impossible, do you have ideas?
SuperNarutoxX
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@84
Was minato a wind user also? Maybe the yellow flash speed can be achieved by using the wind for being fast while moving and not transportation...
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no matter what anyone says minato was a sage
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I also believe that minato was a sage. The robe and the frogs comments make me think this way
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but i dont think so, the rope just give me a hint that he has to do something we#ith the frogs.
i wont believe until i read it in the manga
i wouldnt belive in something what is not true until it was shown tghat this is true
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*clecle*
Minato didnt train the sage mode
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to 96
you have to remember that naruto didnt know that minato was his father suring his sage training and didnt find out until he almost transformed into the nine tails, so one of the reasons fukasaku didnt tell him was to respect minatos wishes like everyone that knew had been doing for 16 years... now im not saying that that means minato was a sage but there really isnt anything saying that he isnt, and the fact that he caould summon gambuta and was the only one that gambuta would recognize as his master (master is the wrong term but still it wasnt like naruto and jiria where he bitched about being summoned and wanted something in return, and yes this is stated in the manga) so i have no doubt that he had to have been at mt. (i fortgot the name) and probably did train there.
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Yo how's it going. I think I'll like this chapter. I Always did like the "evil" side of people ^^. Anyway UTP, you said that when a jinchuuriki dies the tailed beasts are freed right? well thats wrong look here
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/95/16/
The kyuubi says that if naruto dies, he would die with him. Unless that's suppose to be some kind of pun or something.
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*clecle*
#105
she asks him ironically (i dunno if this word exist xD)
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@ 82
the first could not control the 9tails and i think that the fourth hokage robe thing i beleave it means hokage
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#107
the first could controll all of them
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Minato Sage or not is at least a refreshing change over the usual madara/tobi thing.
Honestly I dont think will find a 100% real answer for this till kishi tells us or till we get to see the movie. Honestly I think he was a Sage (just my personal opinion). I think the robe is not really evidence, since its a 50 50 chance it was the hokage robe, or the sage robe. Now the Gamabunta thing Forsakensouldier mentioned does sound interesting. But still its no proof.
Aratorn
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on post 109
I meant Madara/Obito
Aratorn
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Yeah, the first was supposed to have collected heaps of tailed beasts and then given them away to make peace with neighbouring nations. But, I don't believe it specifically mentions the first controlling the kyubi, we're just assuming.
After all Yamato has significant trouble controlling the Kyubi once he gets up significant numbers of tails, but I'm guessing the first would have shat in Yamato's face and made him eat it if they had to fight. So maybe the first does own all (except the third who beat him and the second at the same time)
Which reminds me. The third used the soul sealing technique 3 times using a kage bunshin, effectively sealing 'parts' of himself each time. Is it possible that the 4th sealed the kyubi with a bunshin and still lives? I mean, if you catch the kyubi and die doing it, how do you then go and seal it in your son if you're dead. I'm guessing kishi will never explain that bit because it doesn't make much sense ;)
TimP
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Oh yeah, in continuation to #111 re the first and the kyubi:
i) If the 1st did control/possess the kyubi he would have had to give it away to someone else for madara to get control of it
ii) If the 1st didn't have the kyubi, it would have been out there and easy for madara to capture with the sharingan
If the kyubi is the most powerful of the biju, it is unlikely the 1st hokage would give that one away, which leads me to think that the first never captured the kyubi.
I could easily be wrong, but if the first had the kyubi it makes no sense to give it away.
Alternatively, if madara was injured after fighting the 1st (and I'm assuming he had to use izanagi to escape - hence his weakened state - losing half of his mangekyo powers) maybe he then wormed his way into control mizukage (if they were given the kyubi) and stole it.
TimP
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i'm come back again
x-beast bro how are you doing
my life is going as its is
but in relity my life is quite changed after SUZUKA
and 5 CENTIMETERS PER SECOND
i'm happy feel happy
but i really do miss SUZUKA
yeas i can read manga SUZUKA again
but i don't know i don't want to
it looks like its painful situations are too much
frightful to me
also there is a petition going on so its 2nd season anime
should be made
also i am weak emotionally i think
hahaha because i can't get over with it
what about you
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96 pickletron you rock man
u alone handled the situation quite beautifully
man at least chose a name
or your credit will go to anonymous section
fukasaku never telling naruto about minato
doesn't clear the thing that MINATO was a sage or not
fukasaku knew MINATO was naruto's dad but he never
him so. so your assumption is wrong at this way
and all tobi====obito fan
hahaha what can be said about ya all
man when i heard tobi========obito i suddenly feel
the impatience of this theory believers
and pickletron you said good line to ORLIE
he always do that never accepting the facts
but what can be do even i don't fully believe
that tobi=========madara uchiha
but i want him to be uchiha madara
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Minato cant be a sage as that old frog said that u ur self need an amazing amount of chakra for the natural energy to not take over.I dont think minato had the chakra like naruto and jiraya ,as kakashi said that even the fourth could not master the rasensureken like naruto did.
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VIZ Media has announced that 9 of its manga titles have made the New York Time’s Manga Best Seller list for the week ending April 10th. Half of the list consists of new volumes of super awesome pirate adventure manga, ONE PIECE by Eiichiro Oda.
So, how come five volumes of ONE PIECE have appeared in the list of Top 10 this week? Well, the answer is pretty simple. As njt posted before, Viz will be releasing five volumes of ONE PIECE per month, from January through June, to catch up to the Japanese publishing schedule, and bring the latest volumes of this popular series to fans sooner than ever.
“It’s exciting to see such a wide variety of VIZ Media titles reach this level of popularity,” says Gonzalo Ferreyra, Vice President of Sales, VIZ Media. “From the irresistible bite of ROSARIO + VAMPIRE, to the high seas pirate adventures of ONE PIECE, to the romantic shojo hijinks of THE GENTLEMEN’S ALLIANCE, these titles continue to show the diversity of the manga genre and its strong appeal among readers of all ages and interests.”
So, here's the list of VIZ Media Best-Selling Manga Titles (in listed order):
1. ROSARIO + VAMPIRE: Season II, Vol. 1
2. YU-GI-OH! R, Vol. 4
3. NARUTO, Vol. 47
4. THE GENTLEMEN'S ALLIANCE †, Vol. 11
5. ONE PIECE, Vol. 40
6. ONE PIECE, Vol. 39
7. ONE PIECE, Vol. 41
8. ONE PIECE, Vol. 43
9. ONE PIECE, Vol.42
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@UTP 116
Then that means that VIZ will block One Piece from One Manga, since they have already blocked some mangas like Dragon Ball, and Claymore, is just a matter of time before they cancel One Piece from One Manga.
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@ 108
no he could not control the 9 tailes he could only surpass it chakara that it and the first only hade a few of the tails beast under his control
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@ joel 115
You dont think that the fourth have alot of chakra you must be out of your mind like for real
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@ 107,
No, his jacket does not mean Hokage. If that were the case then all of the Hokages would have had one. I have only seen three people in the manga with that type of jacket or robe and that is Jiraiya, Minato, and Naruto. With the exception of the Japanese writing on Minato's robe, and the difference in colors, they are identical.
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@ 120
dont jiraiya jacket aint it all one color
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2+2 = 4+2 = 6+2 = 8 + 8 = 16
Brinca la tablita, yo ya la brinque,
brincala de nuevo, yo ya me canse.
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@ joel post # 115,
I am shocked and appalled that you would even think that the 4th Hokage (Minato) did not have a large amount of chakra. A ninja can not perform the high level jutsus that he did with out having a large amount of it. It is preposterous to even come up with a hypothesis of that magnitude. Read this carefully. The 4th was a genius who defeated the NINE TAIL DEMON FOX by himself. A person with an average or a little bit of chakra could not achieve this. Minato was able to store part of himself in the form of CHAKRA inside of Naruto. I don't believe that a ninja with an average level of chakra could effectuate something of that immensity or degree. Minato was able to call forth the BOSS TOAD (Gamabunta). Before Naruto was able to summon Gamabunta, Jiraiya informed him that he needed a larger than normal amount of chakra to complete the technique that he was going to show him (chap. 92 pg 13). In conclusion Minato had a large amount of chakra. The reason he did not complete the rasengan was because he died before he could complete it. According to your provision, if the fourth's version of the rasengan was not completed due to a lack of chakra then that would mean Jiraiya didn't have a significant amount of chakra. Remember he didn't complete the rasengan either and he was one of the legendary Sanins.
p.s. The rasensureken was what Naruto came up with when he thought outside of the box.
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@ 121,
I don't understand what you mean?
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@ 124
you said that naruto and jiraya jacket are simmilar but they are not
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kakashi says that only naruto could use 3 shadow clones to add wind element to rasengan because of his chakra and skill with shadow clones
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@ 126,
If you are going to quote one of the characters, please type the chapter and the page along with the quote so that we all may see what you are referring to.
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@ 124,
They look similar to me.
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Hi Guys, just back to check things out in forum, good to see UTP and TLR still in full flow,
hw r u doing UTP, looks like u have got on with life.
I'm a bit tied up with work so can't give much time here.
by the way naruto chapters are getting a bit predictable, so why isn't the chapter out yet?
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@128,
Correction my post in 128 was directed towards post #125
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*clecle*
this episode isnt coming out??
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@131
looks like not for today.
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YaWnnnNNNNnnnnnnNnNN............
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scans are late this week. can't wait to read!!!
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scans are very late
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@ Cypher: The Child Of Promise
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/330/06/
read what kakashi says.
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x beast bro what ya said man
i did believe ya read naruto manga carefully
didn't kyubi lost one of his part
now he can't survive in real world
why orochimaru survived because his soul's one part i
hands were gone if his soul was divided into yin yang
type then he also would be a gonna
also can a soul has yin and yang thing
its impossible
what i beat utp on that
no ya didn't
ok ok what if naruto has only one side yin and as we
all know only kyubi yang reside in naruto
so even if one of them die other will die too
after so many days a new exciting theory came
and produced by who UZUMAKI THE PAIN
WHAT IF REAPER GOD TOOK NARUTO'S TIN PART TOO
BUT THAT CAN'T BE POSSIBLE
MINATO WOULD NEVER ALLOW THAT
AND REAPER GOD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BABY NARUTO
BUT WHAT IF REAPER GOD GET ADDICTED TO KYUBI'S CHAKRA SO
MUCH THAT HE OVER RULED MINATO AND TRIED TO TAKE THE
COMPLETE KYUBI AND IN THIS PROCESS
NARUTO'S YIN SIDE WAS GONE
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i don't think many yin and yang can reside in one body
in unequal form
everything must be complete specifically in case of
yin and yang
1st tail inside gaara is ok
upto 8th tail everything is ok
but what about this half burden chakra and yang side
no matter what kyubi is a gonna
the only thing that can save the kyubi is death of
reaper god and somehow bringing back yin chakra of kyubi
also hey mz sama
teah i am ok already
feeling still down
maybe i am not the type who move forward or look forward
so easily i really do feel like emotionally weak
like yamato akitsuki
but its only a feeling i never do things like yamato
like roaming with a dead face in sorrow
or spending time cursing myself
but i do stick to thing for longer time
like ASHINA SUZUKA DID FOR 2 YEARS
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joel,
There's a difference between having chakra and sustaining a technique. Would anyone believe if i said naruto doesn't have enough chakra because he couldn't make a normal clone properly. For the same reason kakashi, in that chapter just means yondaime couldn't have sustained so many shadow clones. Its not because of lack of chakra. He did not have something like nine tails in him to give him the stamina naruto has.
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@ joel post # 136,
I re-read the chapters 300 - 330. It does not say that Minato could not complete the rasengan. What is said is that he didn't complete it. As far as what Kakashi said, re-read it. He said that Naruto was the only one who could use this 'method' to create the RS, which means that there may be another way to complete it. Do you remember when Jiraiya taught Naruto the rasengan. He could not do it the conventional way. He had to think 'outside of the box'. Jiraiya and Minato were both able to do the R without the aid of a clone. Naruto wasn't. All that means to me is that Naruto thought 'outside of the box' to learn the jutsu. He used a different 'method' to complete it. I believe that the 4th would have eventually mastered his jutsu if he would have been alive.
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cypher yous a iddiot. i hate people like you. you think you smart but your not. anyone can see that the forth hokage wasn't as strong as kashi naruto jiraaya. he was weak is why he dead. i don see how he was that good no way. he a chump jus like you. kashi for president & naruto for vice.
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@104
but did fukusaku said to naruto that he suprassed jiraya?
he thought about it, he didnt said it.
and why then he didnt thought about minato?
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so who is more powerful and skillful
jiraiya base or naruto base
eye, base means without sage mode
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@141,
U are the most idiotic person i have ever come across. Fourth was dead because he used a superior technique that had a death contract. In other words if that contract did not include dying he would have still been alive after kicking the crap out of nine tails. Moreover the nine tails couldn't even be beaten by the legendary sannin orochimaru in its half state(4 tail naruto). 4th took it on alone. What do u think u are saying. U are the one trying to act smart but is not smart. U are a complete dunder head.
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@143
I think if u consider the base as it is jirayiya is stronger. But naruto has sheer guts and strong will to overcome anything. If he gets trapped in tsukyomi also he will somehow force his way out. In summary naruto is stronger.
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Hey guys
What do u think was inside the last coffin kabuto summoned?!
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no manga this week. yehhhhh
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dis 2 u 144. you dumb too. blackmamba u snake. yous the
dumby and idiiotic dunder head. you caan go hell.
sežrat ptáka teplouši. Nech moje koule dýchat . Slez z
mýho ptáka .
all yous who think yodima was a sage is moron. all yous
who say he the powerful one is moron. he dead and died.
kashi say he not complete jutsu not me. if he strong why
naruto finish and he no.
kashi for president and naruto for vice and sakura for
furs lady and gara for secretarie defense. english no
good america 3 years. Czech 16 years and smart den yous
all. go kashi naruto an gara
Velký orel!
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@ 144, i agree with you that yondaime didnt die because he was weak, it was becoz of the jutsu.
but i thing 141 is a child. who cant controll himsdelf and 144 didnt done it better.
but about yondaime:
@148, without yondaime, naruto wouldnt have such a powerful jutsu. and yondaime is great too. to onvent something needs much time. And if you have something complete. then you can easy learn it. its like to do new music, you need much time to do a great song. but after its finish every can learn it in 3 minutes.
so that what you said :
"kashi say he not complete jutsu not me. if he strong why
naruto finish and he no."
yondaime finish the acadimy whith 10 years. and jiraya said he was his most talented student. he also invent the jutsu wich is using tobi. also the special kunai that he made for kakashi.
i dont understand you, do you hate yondaime, if naruto would now that he would kick yourself ass :P, joke!
if you are smart , how you say, then you wouldnt be immature and bully other. ripe and samrt guys would controll himself. and show respect, althought you dont agree with some comments... this is also for @ 144.
have fun ppl
richiesvw11
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Looks like I was right that the second Naruto was just a representation of his hatred and anger, score one for me, my first correct prediction.
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Anime coming out before the manga. .hmm :\
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hi ya all
I have a question... how do you publish a manga ...that is to say how or to who do you pitch a idea about a manga...does it have to be a story in a picture form to or can it just be a story...and about the story's plot does it have to be like 5 miles ahead or can it be like 3 chapters (let me simple-fly this (sorry could not spell that don't know the right way hope you can get what i wanted to say with that word)...now what i wanted to say was does the plot of the story(plot idea pitch to the someone idk ??? anon) need to be know like lets say and take a look at naruto 500 chapters in advaced(idk if i spelled this word right to? sorry guys)or can it be just 3 chapters and then if they buy the idea and or story pitch you see and figure out the rest of it) lol ...(but i guess that could be a bad thing if you were to have wrighters block(see i really cant spell sorry ppl:O sorry ))....some more questions how much can a wrighter(again sorry :P) or artist make on a sold story line or seres that they made..... how can they pitch the idea and not get riped off idk like if the company or publisher liked the story but said that they would not buy it but and send you on your way out (kick you out with a smile)and get some of their guys to like change your idea(story and all) about 30% but it is about the same as yours is...what then and how do you protect your self against that.... what kind of patent or stuff can you use (i really do not know)
now i know that this has non what so ever relation with naruto sorry for takeing up space on the blog(forum)
i did this out of desperation in hope i could get some help in answering some of my questions .....
tnx to the admins if they do not delete this and a
BIG BIG tnx to anyone who will is a help to me with information about anything :)
P.S
sorry for all the bad spelling d4e :) :P ;) :D and nagging
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@ 128
no it is different jiraya has like a regular jacket goo look and yea i think the fourth jacket means hokage go look that up
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@ 140
there is a manga about the fourth and when he fight the 9tails and it show that the fourth rasengan was really close to combine too elements his rasengan so yeah
@ 141 and you are dum the fourth will beat both naruto and kakashi
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thanx 4 every thing >>
i don't know anything about that :@
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@154
that we dont know, minot was a student from jiraya,
like orochimaru vs third hokage.
if he had benn younger he had chance kill him...
but that we realy cant say, maybe we see it in naruto shippuuden movie 4!
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eee que rollo ya suban la traduccion en ingles
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@Blackmamba
There are a few theories on who was in the last coffin.
1: Madara: Tobi was surprised/terrified when he saw who was in the coffin. Kabuto assured him to not worry, that he has told nobody, meaning that if Madara was in that coffin and word got out... This whole war idea would break seeing as Madara isn't their enemy.
2: Madara's Brother: Again, Tobi was terrified at who was in there. If it's Madara's brother, and Tobi is truly Madara, then he would lose Sasuke's trust b/c he can find out thru his brother the truth about Madara achieving his eyes. Which was one of the reasons Sasuke trusted him in the first place.
3: So6P: I HIGHLY DOUBT this is true... There's so much more basis behind the other theories than this one... Kabuto assures Tobi that he has told nobody... which means it MUST deal with either his Identity or Sasuke's Trust. When Tobi asked how, Kabuto told him not to be foolish that he knew very well how... Which leans STRONGLY on the theory of it affecting his identity...
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translations ??!! :(((
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@ 156
NO he WAS STORNG AT AGE TEN AND NAeuto was n0t
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Please keep your negative comments to yourself. It seems as if I am the target of some disgraceful person who questions and wants to make a mockery of my intelligence. Please whoever you are, Vím , co říkáš (I know what you're typing). I wasn't born in the US neither. English is my fourth language but I have adapted to the language and this country. I am able to speak, write, express, and understand English. So please keep your audacious, brash, and impudent comments to yourself.
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144 no yous queer. i a man yous non. sakura more ball then you.
Velký orel!
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@149
I guess you are right man. This must be a kid who can't control himself. But the language he uses makes me feel otherwise.
Anyways i'll ignore that kid.
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