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Anonymous said...

FIRST FIRST first

Anonymous said...

Second
- Pain

Paul Garate said...

Best chapter

Paul Garate said...

ever !!!

Anonymous said...

whew! good one...

Anonymous said...

Sasgay got his but kicked

Kcobra99 said...

So the obvious has finally been confirmed, Naruto is a decedent of the Senju clan. It makes sense, he is the only ninja out of the Konoha 11 with the ability to challenge Sasuke, and only a Senju can take on a uchiha in a one on one battle.

I'm glad that Madara explained why only Senju could beat Uchiha and Uchiha can only beat Senju. Both clans had a very close connection to the Sage of the Six Paths. No wonder no other clan stood a chance against them during the 1st great war.

Analyst of the battle:

RAIKAGE IS A FUCKING BEAST!!!

I can't tell if he took the full force of Jugo blast or used his speed to avoid it. But what he did it was awesome. Shi is dead. Karin is useless (like always). Sasuke vs Raikage is going to have an EPIC ending. At first I had Raikage winning the battle, but after that speech Madara gave about Sasuke I can see Kishi letting Sasuke win the battle(again). But Raikage still has a strong chance to win, he looks unstoppable right now. Genjutsu doesn't seem to work on him and Sharigan can't read his movements. But Sasuke still has the MS Sharigan.

Anonymous said...

#7

Naruto isnt a decedent of the Senju Tobi said that he had is will

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/462/14/

Anonymous said...

#7

Naruto isnt a decedent of the Senju Tobi said that he had his fire

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/462/14/

Naruto The Senju said...

good chapter its getting better and better.. i wonder what sakura wanted to talk with naruto ;d

Kcobra99 said...

@ post 8 and 9

Well Madara also said, "you 2 have been chosen by FATE."
That means because of their ancestors that they were destined to be rivals.

Madara also said, "Senju and Uchiha, Fire and Hatred, Naruto and Sasuke." He was connecting both Naruto and Sasuke to the Senju and Uchiha clans.

Sasuke is cursed with the same hate and revenge that has followed his clan for generations. Naruto has the same fire that is seen inside Senju clan members. Naruto now believes that love is the key to peace like the younger brother while Sasuke believe in power and revenge like the older brother.

Anonymous said...

Part 1.
This is a great chapter. I remember a while ago when people were speculating as to the purpose of the sage of the six paths, if he would come back in some form or another, if he would be a bad guy or a good guy. This kinda explains his purpose in the story and for someone who wanted to see the character return like the 4th hokage in some form, I can settle for this, this is good.

However there is something that has been bothering me about this arc and the character tobi. Time and time again I must state that we do not know even if he says himself that he is madara. He can say it all he wants but it seems to me even the statement "I am madara uchiha" is still lost in translation or incapable of being translated correctly. It could mean the inheritor of something maybe his eyes, or he could be posing as madara uchiha for some other purpose or both we still don't know.

Another thing this has raised is that he is the second coming of harashima senju(sp). To those that think he is a direct descendant I have two things for you.

First they say he is an inheritor of the will of fire not related to the first hokage. The will of fire has nothing to do with lineage or relation, it has everything to do with purpose or the ninja way of the individual or person we are talking about "will of fire" or again ninja way or code of the individual in question. In this particular instance I think what they are saying is that naruto's ninja way is unmistakably like the body side of the sage of the six paths, not that he is related to the first hokage at all. And his blond hair proves moreso that he can't be descended from the first hokage even though the fifth was. The fourth hokage was never mentioned thus far to be a descendant from anything special, he would have done that by now.

Second is a bit hard. First both bleach and naruto are both heavily inspired by dragonball even the writer has stated this himself. However while naruto and the fourth hokage's blond hair are unmistakably unique it holds some kind of possibility for it's own thing or could mean nothing at all. Take goku since we are on the subject. How in the world was he so strong? No one really knows if it had anything to do with lineage in backstory never told. Which brings me back to naruto's blond hair. Sometimes writers like to write the rules themselves the blond hair could simply be something to make him look cool or mean something else entirely. But let's think about how he has written this anime. He's explained everything, and due to the fourth hokage being the only other blond haired powerful ninja we are shooting for 2 for 2 which means that 100% of the naruto blonds in the anime related to naruto are powerful ninja. His blond hair means something. He has a keekei genkai, although it is not explained. Although I would put my money on he is "island folk" although I myself don't know why I think that. I think though bleach blond could be due to sun bleached hair and beaches tend to be sunny all year around, but I am probably reading too much into the island folk side take for example ichi from bleach. He has stawberry hair, his father doesn't, the writer just wanted to draw him that way.

Kcobra99 said...

@ post 12

I don't think that Naruto is related to the 1st Hokage, but he could still be apart of the same clan. Sasuke and Madara are of the same clan, but they're not related at all.

Anonymous said...

#11

Just cause naruto have the fire of Senju doesnt mean that is one blood senju, everybody in konohagakure has is fire: "The Will of Fire"

Anonymous said...

13

The senju are related to the youngest son not all of konoha. The only true senju in the series are the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th hokage. Do you not see a pattern as well? That would be just wrong.

I understand what you are trying to say but sanju are not a large group they are the origional lineage of the youngest son.

Anonymous said...

IN MY OPINION, I DON'T THINK THE STORYLINE IS GETTING BETTER AT ALL...

TO BE HONEST, I THINK KISHI IS JUST SLOWLY DEVELOPING THE STORY WITH THE INTENTIONS TO MAKE THE READERS SLOWLY BELIEVE THAT UCHIHA CLAN WITH THE SHARINGAN IS THE STRONGEST NINJA OF ALL TIME.. TO BE SPECIFIC, HE IS SLOWLY MAKING US BELIEVE THAT SASUKE SHOULD BE THE STRONGEST NINJA JUZ BCOZ HE HAS D SHARINGAN AND BY THE TIME KISHI FINALLY MAKE SASUKE THE STRONGEST NINJA, EVERYBODY WOULD FIND IT REASONABLE..

BUT I WON'T FALL FOR THAT SHIT.. I STILL BELIEVE THAT IT'S UNREASONABLE AND UNFAIR FOR KISHI TO CONTINUE TO "EXPOSE" THE "GREATNESS" OF UCHIHA AND SHARINGAN WHILE OTHER CHARACTERS HAVE NOTHING AT ALL.. KISHI EVEN MADE IT CLEAR NOW THAT RINNEGAN "IS JUST A MUTATION" @ "NOT AS GREAT AS SHARINGAN"(IN OTHER WORDS!!) AFTER WE ALL HEARD FROM THE FROG AND JIRAIYA THAT RINNEGAN IS THE STRONGEST OUT OF ALL THE THREE GREAT DOUJUTSU.. ALL I'M SEEING IN D MANGA RITE NOW IS 'ALL GREATNESS ABOUT D SHARINGAN AND NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT THE OTHER CHARACTERS'...

DON'T GET ME WRONG I'M A SASUKE FAN..B4 DIS I WOULD BE D 1ST PERSON TO OBJECT WHEN OTHER PEOPLE DUBBED SASUKE AS KISHI'S FAV CHARACTER ALTHOUGH WITH EVERY CHAPTER POSTED, I FIND THAT STATEMENTS TO BE GETTING CLEARER N SHOWS MORE PROOF..

BUT NOW I DON'T KNOW.. I'M ALSO A FAN OF NEJI,SHIKAMARU, SHINO ETC.. FOR EXAMPLE, COMPARED TO D SHARINGAN, WE KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING NEW ABOUT THE BYAKUGAN OR ANY OF ITS EXTRA SPECIAL ABILITIES (IF THERE'S ANY THAT KISHI WANNA SHOW!!) IT'S REALLY UNFAIR FOR THESE CHARACTERS TO GET THIS KIND OF STORYLINE WHEN KISHI IS MAKING SASUKE AND D SHARINGAN 'GREATER AND EVEN GREATER' WITH EVERY CHAPTER.

PLUS B4 DIS WE'VE KNOWN DAT RINNEGAN IS D GREATEST DOUJUTSU EVER.. AND NOW KISHI HAS CHANGED DAT FACT WITH MADARA/TOBI SAYING DAT "RINNEGAN IS JUST A MUTATION" AND "RIKUDOU SAGE IS JUST A MYTH".. IT'S LIKE SAYING DAT "THERE'S NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT D RINNEGAN ACTUALLY HAHA!" AND IF AFTER DIS MADARA SAY DAT SHARINGAN IS THE ULTIMATE SUPER DUPER FANTASTIC DOUJUTSU EVER IN EXISTENCE, THAT WON'T BE A SURPRISE TO ME ANYMORE.. HUH

AND I WON'T BE SURPRISE TO SEE SASUKE BEATING 100 KAGE LEVEL NINJAS AT THE SAME TIME BCOZ NOW I'M STARTING TO BELIEVE DAT SASUKE IS REALLY KISHI'S FAV CHARACTER.. (REALLY HARD FOR ME TO ADMIT DIS)

ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT A SASUKE HATER..
I'M JUZ FRUSTRATED WITH THE 'FAVORITISM' IN THE WRITER'S WAY IN TREATING D CHARACTERS IN D MANGA.. SORRY IF I OFFEND ANY1 WITH DIS POST..

Anonymous said...

Hm I'm still wondering about Pain, when Konan thought she sensed something was wrong, once he was ordered to capture Naruto. Could Pain be a descendant, related to Naruto? Maybe a reincarnation of the Sage of Six Paths? Maybe he sees Naruto as one of the people chosen or something... Kishi is really getting everything down for us, this chapter was great!

Anonymous said...

This chapter was great now i understand why susuke is always acting like that. i thought he was putting it on and naruto..........

Also has'nt it ever occured that kakashi never uses his mankeyou sharingan at the right times lyk against kakuza and pain-HOW CAN PAIN BLOCK DIMENSIONS-HE CANT.

Anonymous said...

#12
It is said that Naruto's hair is blond so that he can look more like europe/american kid not just regular japanesse kid. So more and more people outside of Japan can like this manga.

#16 - stop whining.
You are totally wrong, the whole story is about Naruto and Sasuke. Also rinnegan is the greatest doujutsu!Go read the manga again instead of making clueless conclusion.

Anonymous said...

#15

Yes the youngest was the first senju, im only saiyn that theres no need to be a senju to have that fire that tobi was talking about, the fact that naruto has the fire doesnt mean that he's a senju

and who the hell told u that minato was a senju maybe like naruto and giraya and sarutobi he had the fire but again that doesnt mean that he's a senju

the direct descedent from a clan has it name on like: UCHIHA Itachi, UCHIHA Sasuke, HYUGA Hinata, HYUGA Neji

Anonymous said...

#16

Don't freak out. When shippuuden was first in development and kishi was doing interviews and hyping the anime he said Shippuuden would be used more for developing "other characters." He never said who. It is now becoming obvious that he meant developing sasuke as a true villain by revealing his past and giving him motive to be a better villain.

Remember shippuuden cannot last forever and in comparison to the original naruto anime compared to shippuuden it is a big change. We will see a different change with shippuuden 2.

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

well naruto is absolutely not a senju, he had only his(senju's) will of FIRE

Anonymous said...

final battle would be naruto vs sasuke for sure..

but who's gonna fight madara then?!

don't tell me kakashi n yamato will kill madara..
those two r nothing compared to madara..

i really hope another descendant of the senju clan that evry1 thought to be long dead would appear and kick madara's ass.. HELL YEAH!!! SENJU RULZ!! LOL

Anonymous said...

WAIT WAIT WAIT!!!!!

DID'NT THEY SAY THAT THE SHARINGAN DERIVED FROM THE BYAKUGAN SO WHATS THIS CRAP ABOUT IT COMING FROM THE RINNINGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEIR CONFUSIN DA STORY

Anonymous said...

24..

i was about to ask d same question..

if rinnegan is the ancestor of sharingan, then what's up with the theory that sharingan comes from d byakugan..

could it be that d byakugan is actually another descendant of the rinnegan????

23.. another descendant of the senju clan that will kick madara's ass.. that would be FREAKIN AWESOME!!!!!

Anonymous said...

#20

Ok I will elaborate/fix some things.

The senju are related to the youngest son not all of konoha. The only true senju by blood in the series are the 1st, 2nd and 5th hokage. Do you not see a pattern as well? Being as naruto is related to the 4th. That would be just wrong. 1st,2nd,4th and 5th.

I understand what you are trying to say but sanju are not a large group they are the origional lineage of the youngest son.

Moreover #20 I am a little confused as to who is writing to me here, but I still am finding some things wrong with what you are saying.

You said

the direct descedent from a clan(what clan are you talking about each individual clan in your examples below?) has it(?) name on like: UCHIHA Itachi, UCHIHA Sasuke, HYUGA Hinata, HYUGA Neji

To me I would take from that, you are trying to say that the hyuga are from the gan side?

Moreover I did the post with part 1 in the beginning not to offend anyone but to educate and bring a point of view that was used when the spoiler was published, not to upset anyone.

And #20 would you mind stating which posts you are referring to?

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

#24 you're wrong --'a

it's not like sharingan is born from rin'negan, just it's that uchiha clan is the older brother(to make it simpler)look-a-like, get it?well i think you don't >.<, i mean, it's like it's destined for uchiha clan to have older brother power and for senju's to have his heart...D***, i can't give a proper explain since i'm not a native speaker LOL

Anonymous said...

@Kcobra99. I agree with you.

I also think Naruto maybe a descendant from the Senju Clan. As Tobi/Madara explain the Senju which were gifted with the Sages "Body", "Life-Force" and "Physical Energy".

Jiraiya mentions in Chapter 370, p10-14, why did the Fourth sealed the Kyubi inside his own son? Unless he knew something of grave importance... Maybe the Fourth knew? And linked with "gifts" given to the Senju, he sealed the Kyubi in his own child.

Also if you read Chapter 370, p10-14 The Fourth left the Key to the seal to Jiraiya, so maybe one day Naruto will be able to control the Kyubi?

~Vatos Locos

Anonymous said...

16..

i understand how u feel..

all i can say is let's juz hope we would see more about d other characters in d future...

btw.. are juugo and shi dead already?????
that would make me sad coz i'm juz starting to like those characters...

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

#29

no way >.<, juugo is still alive and shi is just unconsious

Anonymous said...

tlr 27..

i don't think i get u.

look at the eyes of the older brother.. it looks like rinnegan to me.. plus the rikuudou sage is said to have the rinnegan eyes.. so if the older brother inherited the eyes of the sage, it should be the rinnegan... rite???

Anonymous said...

#24

They are nobles that can change the writing of history if they want, to suit their own agenda. Just because they say the byakugan is the original does not mean it was.

#25

It could be, but it could also be a freak occurrence and since the bloddline was noble they kept breeding the byakugans until it was in the family all the way.

or

It is a decendant of the renningan it's just a deluded mutation. Remember the original uchiha had sharingans not byakugans. And we can't quite tell yet if the eye that the oldest son had was a sharingan or a renningan. Most people all week have stayed on the oldest had a renningan.

or

And this is good. The first idea except they are senju, it is just a natural mutation, triggered by some kind of training because they knew madara was still alive and would start a war or some other reason other than it being a natural evolution all together.

So many possibilities but I thought up a bunch over the last couple of days.

Anonymous said...

madara is juz talking crap.. he juz wants to make naruto see sasuke as an enemy in the future.. juz to make sure dat sasuke will show no mercy to naruto when he sees naruto is determined to fight him seriously..

and btw..
agree with 23.. who's gonna fight with madara then???
i dont think any of the characters in d manga rite now is strong enough to beat him..

Anonymous said...

#28

Too often I hear this. I heard somewhere a long time ago and I mean like a year or two maybe even more that naruto's bloodline limit was not as simple as being limited by being as deluded as one half of the sage of the six paths. So in other words without a gan like the sage of the six paths he has the potential to be stronger than the sage of the six paths without the nine tailed fox as well.

I can't remember the source. It is the most closely guarded secret kishi can't reveal it yet unless the manga is drawing to a ultimate end.

Like that important. This is not his lineage I swear.

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

#31

well sorry for not being able to explain, oh well, the main thing is that naruto isn't senju and senju isn't sage of six path's son the same as uchiha is not sage of six path's son.......

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

who gonna fight madara? just the same as who will fight orochimaru?

Anonymous said...

It is said that Sharingan most likely was from Byuakugan. Thats what Kakashi said. But only a tail or myth. And yes Rinnegan is strongest ( stop with that sharingan whine ) and mostlikely the 2 brothers had rinnegan. And from generation to generation they mutated to sharingan!

Also I think Yamato and Kakashi both are capable if not defeat Madara then make a draw with him!

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

now we know why rinnegan when it's in nagato, it's not quite very powerful, cause it's not the real rinnegan...um.... get it?

Anonymous said...

now we know decendants of konoha...how about the other countries,(rock,sand etc) where do they decended from...

N3v3rw!n+3R

Kcobra99 said...

I think Madara will be the main villain. Madara is kinda like the Evil Emperor from Star Wars and Sasuke is Darth Vader. Sasuke is just pure hearted and is being manipulated like Vader while Madara is pulling the strings like the Emperor. But in the end I believe Naruto(who is like Luke) will change Sasuke(Vader) and together they will defeat Madara(Emperor).

Anonymous said...

i really wanna know more about d sage of d six path.. is he really the strongest ninja of all time as he is said to be the creator of all jutsus? is he really invincible?

if it's true that the sage of six path can use all kinds of jutsu, why can't he live for a long time like madara? why can't he use a jutsu like pain's jutsu or orochimaru's jutsu to enable him to live forever? if he's the creator of all justus, he must have all kinds of resurrection and rebirth jutsu rite?

btw if the sharingan comes from the older son of sage and it has been stated b4 that sharingan is derived from the byakugan, is it possible that the byakugan is also a descendant of the older son (i mean b4 the sharingan develop)?

any1 can xplain to me?

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

#40

yup kinda agree, since there's many similarities between naruto and starwars, and DBZ of course, but i think it would be nice if kishio add some negima or TLR inside, so it can be a little bit funnier --'a

Anonymous said...

w/c is the best fight scene...

best fight scene was from...fight of the 3rd hokage vs 1st and 2nd hokage... doesnt get lame

N3v3rw!n+3R

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

#41

not only that he's the strongest so that he created the whole MOON, maybe because of the creating of the moon itself that makes sage had to die (exhaustion), and plus he created ninjutsu and genjutsu

Anonymous said...

i don't really care about madara and his crap..

juz wondering what type of jutsu the mizukage use...

Anonymous said...

where r samui's team and kabuchimaru?

Anonymous said...

what do u guys think they r gonna do to danzo?

nick239 said...

#16 what the hell is wrong with your ass just calm your ass down aight.

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

yawn, i'm damn sleepy >.<

LOL the most intersting thing in naruto surely is it's flashback now yeah?

Tomoe said...

# 47
i don't think they'll catch danzo so easily.
sasuke, juugo and suigetsu are busy and karin can't catch him on her own.
maybe he won't be found by them now - my theory is that danzo will be killed later because more and more people find out about his plotting and his machinations, maybe anbu root itself will lose it's trust in danzo and if we're lucky tsunade kills him.

Anonymous said...

40 is completely right. kishi wont kill naruto or sasuke. teh only person i can see now nearly dying would be yamato or even kaakshi. as for tyhis chapter , it wsas mainly hyping up the next chapter. and i rmeber some anom say sometihng last discussion about itachis gift activating when he sees sasuks ms. yea thta prolly happen. and final battle will be against madara.and whtf is kabuto doing

Anonymous said...

It's there a posibility that Naruto Shippuden to end in the near future and a new series to appear? Let's say after 5 year when naruto and sasuke will be 20 years old?

Kcobra99 said...

@ 52

I agree, there should be another time skip.

Anonymous said...

@ kcobra99

not tryin to start anything but in one of kishi interview he said later on the storyline a true/bigger villain will show it self(not madara). so assuming it's not madara people can only sit here and wonder about who it could be.

Anonymous said...

i hate the way this is going. i know naruto is the main character and sasuke but their getting way to much attension. i mean what about neji. What about kakashi they need to give him some new moves for his MS and get back in the ranks hes seriously falling- come on the only non uchiha to get MS!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I think Sakura will never have the chance to talk with Naruto. After a few chapters in the manga the fight between Sasuke and Raikage will come to one end and Sasuke badly injured will be forced to retreat. He will meet with Sakura and he will ask her for help (medical ninjustu) just how it happened with Orochimaru and Tsunade. Sakura will agree and leave with him even she knows that this will hurt even hard Naruto. What do you think about this? What will do Naruto next?

Kcobra99 said...

@ 54

Where is that interview. I would like to read it, thanks.

5th Hokage said...

What a great chapter :) The Legend of the Sage of six paths and also Madara discovered all about Itachi and the clan... :) Now Naruto knows, Kakashi and Yamato also ;)

5th Hokage said...

To Kcobra99 40,

hehehe, Star Wars ;) But you are right.

It reminds me also of Star Wars :)

Orlie said...

nice chapter very interesting, is clear tobi is not the final villain like nagato wasnt, naruto is minato and kushina son so i dont see why he is a descendant of the senju, tobi make it clear he have the same will of fire of the younget lineage but that dont mean he is from that lineage, when i see the word "Naruto u are the descendant of the Senju Clan" then i will believe it, as we see the mangas and sasuke get stronger and about this stuff of the sage of the six path, now for sure to me sasuke will kill raikage, after the talk with tobi kakashi and yamato gona fight him, when naruto get out of the cage to look for sasuke, tobi will kill yamato one of the blood of the senju the clan and blood he say he hate the most, yamato is a clone an experiment but he have the blood anyway of the 1 hokage, i dont want him to die but after naruto necklace broke i dont see yamato usefull to control the kyuubi, i dont see jugo dead yet he is too strong to just die cuz an elbow lol, and hey guys i was thinking i know this is just imposible to hapen but what if sakura get there and to stop sasuke and naruto sasuke kill her?, i know im just talking shit but what if that hapen.. i mean they are talking of sasuke like he is just pure darkness.

Anonymous said...

Orlie

are u godslayer or not?

Anonymous said...

where did that godslayer go....

Orlie said...

@61

again with godslayer lol.. no sorry for disapoint u too.. im not godslayer.. i post like him or something or is just cuz im from PR?

Anonymous said...

Orlie

yeah lol sorry man

Orlie said...

@63

lol dont worry is cool.

Anonymous said...

The 4th is narutos dad so that means he has senju blood in him

Anonymous said...

If Naruto is NOT a descendant from Senju, what reason did the Fourth Hokage sealed the Kyubi into Naruto, his own son?
Why would Jiraiya think there must have been a reason?

Chapter 370, p14

~VL

Tomoe said...

i fear that there'll be a lot black pages in the next mangas because of all those flashbacks.

i think the battle or more the talk between madara uchiha and senju hashirama will be retold almost ccompletely.

things concerning naruto's ancestry and heritage will have to be declared.

the relationship between naruto, sasuke and sakura will be retold to emphasize the inner conflict of those three.

Orlie said...

@66

there is not proof that minato or kushina where senju, i mean is not comfirmed yet, but guys what about Toka Senju?

nick239 said...

#37 I think your wrong about kakashi and yamato having a chance against madara none of those normal ninja will be able to,to even scratch him, kakashi is very strong but remember the fight against pain he almost die and we can all agree that madara is stronger than pain so for kakashi and yamato to defeat madara they'll need a hell of a power boots.

Hello from Chicago.

Orlie said...

she have 27 year old when konoha was bild, so i was thinking, what if minato is relate with her, that make him a senju? then naruto could be....

Orlie said...

and me thinking, if u guys know.. all clans have their unique skills, like the Aburame has Kikkai Bugs, the Hyuugas have their Byakugan, the Yamanaka use mind control, but here is my question why only the senju is diferent? i mean.. the 1hokage use both water and wood, but the 2 just use water, and toka senju use genjutsu... if u see all are diferent, meanning that naruto dont have to use the same jutsu like the 1hokage to be a senju? meanning that dont matter if naruto use whatever jutsu maybe he can really be part of the senju? since those 3 the 1hokage the 2 and toka use diferent jutsus.

Orlie said...

anyway gona eat something thinking to much is bad for the heart and brain lol.

Makster said...

To clear some things up:

It is not been stated anywhere that Naruto is part of the Senju clan. Remember that Uzumaki Kushina is from the Whirlpool country, which doesn't of course eliminate the possibility that she was Senju, but makes it difficult...Minato is also never referred to as a member of the Senju clan. But anyway, it might be reveiled in time that one of Naruto's parents was a Senju. But that has not been said yet. Madara means that Naruto is like the first Senju, in the sense that he believed that Love was the way towards Peace.

It is Kakashi that says that the Sage of the Six Paths was a myth and that the Rinnegan was a mutation, not Madara. He does not mean that the Rinnegan is a mutation of the Sharingan (or Byakugan for that matter), just that it is not a 'divine' doujutsu. Also, as some people have already pointed out, it is ASSUMED that the Sharingan was a mutation of the Byakugan, we don't know for certain. It could be that both the Byakugan and the Sharingan branched down from the Rinnegan, which I think is quite possible. The elder son of the Sage of the Six Paths does definitely appear to carry the Rinnegan. I assume that said doujutsu lies dormant within the younger brother, and would permit it to pass on and derive possibly into Sharingan and Byakugan... Dunno, just speculating right now.

I believe that the 'new villain' that Kishi has mentioned will be none other than Sasuke. The evidence is there; the falling into darkness that we're witnessing now.

raijin sakabato said...

weird chap ,i hate these old family clashes so i felt it was lame.but many wud like it.hurrah makster haw r u old pal

raijin sakabato said...

hei makster can u give me any thing that i can contact u wit like FB or email address

raijin sakabato said...

hirashima and tsunade has hazel eyes i thin naruto and minato blue ,if he is senju he has it from kushina(more probable)

Tomoe said...

his name is hashirama, isn't it???
raijin sakabato - your version sounds a bit like hiroshima, but definitely very funny ^^

i think tobi only means naruto's spirit, not a direct connection through blood or sth. else - maybe this FLAME is a hidden link to the kyuubi with his red chakra,
remember whose pendant was able to seal the kyuubi - you're right, it was the 1st hokage's!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

i think theres more to come i would like to say theres a big boss more than madara i would like to state that the medicine guy with orochimaru is not around and also i dont think that naruto is a good fighter theres nothing good on naruto only the kyuubi i can see the end that naruto and sasuke will fight the last boss by using the fusion sasuke will control the kyuubi inside naruto plus dont forget that the 8 beast are still in that cave !:)_+

Anonymous said...

@79 hmm big boss what do u mean by that only madara is the akatsuki boss but thats cool if its true *_*

Anonymous said...

wat ever happen to bumble bee ? lol

Anonymous said...

madara is by far the strongest guy yet,pain had the most amazing gift,the rinnegan,but he was a rookie at it,and he was paralysed and in a wheel chair,imagine if he wasnt paralysed!!,he would have truly been invincible!!,but even then madara would be a match for him,as i have noticed so far,madaras level is far above any shinobi,he wasnt called an invincible immortal for nothing!!,im not trying to explain anything,but i am saying that madara is unimaginably strong!!

Anonymous said...

wheres everyone else sakura , konaha 11? i like sasuke but kishi gottqa give some love to the others. and i tihnk sasuke might reveal a new lightninig relsease jutsu. cause remeber he doesnt need to do seals cwith normal chidori.

Eric said...

Tsunade is a Senju but isn't refered as Tsunade Senju

Anonymous said...

yooo i have an idea for the final fight music between naruto and uchiha madara, check it out and see if this music goes good in an upcoming battle between naruto and madara

Immediate Music (Imperativa)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHrTTNBX8OU

Anonymous said...

i wonder whats going to happen when sakura gets to the summit, i hope she stumbles upon the sasuke and raikage fight and gets killed that b*tch. thats all she ever was. i dont know why kishi ever even put any emphasis on her. there is nothing special about her, no special relation or abilities shes just average.

i reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaally hope kishi gets rid of her she is just an obstacle in the story and to narutos development. she called him a fool but shes the real fool who had a crush on sasuke and sent naruto to get himself killed

Anonymous said...

@24 and @25

the only one that said that the sharingan came from the byakugan was kakashi, and he didn't say it as a fact, he said it as a theory/myth

hopoffbitches said...

yo naruto should give up on saving sasuke its getting old already and sakura is useless all she does is cry and cry and kishi really needs to stop playing favs with sasuke we need to see other characters develop to like rock lee n neji and all the others cause da shows name is naruto not sasuke

Kita/Naruto said...

a good chapter, filled with insights! loved the talk with naruto and madara

Anonymous said...

88 you forgot to say all she does is she cry and cry and cry and kishi keep feeding into crying and he need to stop that. STOP IT kishi, This is your big brother. OK.

there i said it.

Anonymous said...

madara trying to teach naruto something by telling the history, i wonder what. i really hope same history doesn't repeated it self in naruto. i wane see something different than what madara telling naruto. i don't want to see naruto and sasuke fighting and killing each other.

in my opinion, i think sasuke still sees naruto as a friend and he knows naruto more them any one how naruto feel about him.

and also i think sasuke is just trying to deceive madara making him think his doing all this for revenge, but all his doing to to get inside information on akatski and he know full well how powerful they all are.

sasuke know how powerful madar it from what he heard from itachi and what he heard from madara how he deceived itachi. all his trying to it follow the path of itachi plying baddy guy's.

francisco1991 said...

What are the possibilities of ever having a flashback arc based around the 1st Hokage and Madara Uchiha's battle? Has it ever been mentioned?

Anonymous said...

sorry about my grammar, i should have prof read it.

Anonymous said...

personally i think kishi has something agianst women. all his female characters are weak, useless, cry alot, or are just in the side doing nothing like konan.
and every female character we have seen is too busy worrying about their other male comrades.

kishi makes a statement that women are useless and weak, he really needs to stop that and bring a strong female character, one who doesnt cry all the time or worries alot

Anonymous said...

#94

you're right, it looks like he has something against women, but I believe there are strong female characters out there. An example would be Tsunade. I think she's strong and poweful, and knows how to give orders :P. Other female could be the Mizukage. If she wasn't strong, then she wouldn't be Mizukage in the first place, right?

#88 hoppofbitches

That's exactly what I think! Too much attention on Sasuke! There are others characters who need attention!
For example, what about Kurenai??? I haven't heard anything from her since....a long time ago! :/

UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

as i am showing very much rspect to MADARA SAMA

from past few weeks

as i have said many times

MADARA SAMA is the greatest shinobi ever born

hence all hail madara sama

UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

94 you are quite right

kishi thinks woman s are useless

he thinks women only know to hie from their difficulties and the only thing they know certainly is crying

the only female recognized character in naruto series is

tusnade

UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

the most powerful ninja ever born on earth by fact are

so6p

HIS YOUNGER SON
HIS ELDER SON
MADARA
PAIN
1ST HOKAGE HASHIRAMA
4TH HOKAGE MINATO

UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

I LIKE THIS CHAPTER IT IS A GOOD CHAPTER

BUT IF WE SEE IT IN CLEAR LIGHTS THEN IT WAS A ANOTHER CRAP CHAPTER

WHEN MADARA-SAMA APPEARS ALL ITACHI TALK WAS COMPLETED WE HAVE SEEN IT(NO WASTAGE OF SPACE)

BUT SURE MADARA IS SMOOTH TALKER

HOW KISHI HAVE SHOWN SENJU AND UCHIHA

AND HOW HE JOINED THEM

IS LOOKS TO ME BIG CRAP

ALSO WHO WAS THE WIFE OF S06P
IS SHE WAS ABLE TO DO SAGE MODE TECHNIQUES

BECAUSE SO6P HAD ONLY RINNEGAN
CAN HE HAD LEARNED ALSO ALL SAGE TECHNIQUES

HIS ELDER SON HAD SAGE EYES

WHICH LOOKS QUITE RINNEGAN

CAN IT BE POSSIBLE THAT

FROM ELDER SON 2 TREES WERE BORN

LIKE ONE FOR EXTINCT RINNEGAN

AND OTHER FOR UCHIHA CLAN

CAN THAT BE A POSSIBLE IF WE SEE MORE RINNEGAN USER IN FUTURE OR PAST OF NARUTO SERIES

Anonymous said...

wtf i thought sharingan was derived from byakugan(kakashi says that during chunin exams)now madara says it was derived from rinnengan...anyways great chapter

Anonymous said...

maybe hyuga byakugan was derived from senju coz hyuga hairstyle looks very similar to senju....

UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

NARUTO WANNA STOP THIS ALL HATRED

NARUTO IS THE KEY TO STOP IT

AS WELL AS MADARA WANNA SHOW NARUTO THAT

HE CAN ONLY BRING PEACE BY STOP SASUKE

NO OTHER WAY TO BRING PEACE

HENCE IN

rehan said...

I think there's no more room for rock lee's improvement unless he awakens some sort of awesome power, i don't think he'll improve(we all saw GAI opening 5 gates just to defeat lame ass weak transformation copy of KISAME) and on the account of Neji the height of his clan is kai-tine don't get me wrong i felt in love with Lee and Neji in chunin exams but after that there's no improvement on these characters...

And for all those people who say Tobi(not madara) is really strong, i've got a theory on that what if Tobi has awakened the ultimate range of sharingun which he uses on every body who see him (don't worry i'm explaining more) a very powerfull ganjitsu which enables him to fool everyone on accord of his physical location i,e. he's never where he appears to be...

Why i say tobi NOT madara kishi hasn't declared that fact not even tobi him self has acknowledge that he's madara... if tobi is mdara then there's no need for that mask the only reason i can come up with is that there's something really sinister behind that mask of tobi(may be a BYAKUGAN in his left eye...)

Anonymous said...

u guys r 4getting sumthing, didnt sasuke say he wanted to try sumthin out...

archell said...

i think you need to take a look at the legends of the biju to get a better refference pointo to naruto's developing powers. It's said that the kyubi derives it's infinit power for the fire seal. I think that the senju chakra or life force of the younger son of the six path sage, is an embodiment of this seal. this could also explain how Naruto was able to exceed his four tailed state into his more powerful 6 and 8 tail transformations when he only was supposed to contain only 1/2 of the nine tailes chakra. This source is in otherwards an infinate wellspring of power. yes the uchiha contain the skill and technique advantage due to the eyes capabilities, but they don't carry that will to surpass and overcome.

Swordfish said...

Hey guys, so here's my breakdown/analysis

1) Jugo- i said it before, he's extremely powerful with some dangerous strength. He took some damage on Raikage's first punch, but blasted him with a chakra cannon (cool jutsu). Although he got elbowed by Raikage again, i doubt he's dead.

2) Shi- Raikage's bodyguard is done. Once you're in Sasuke's genjutsu, it's over.

3) Raikage- without a doubt one of the strongest characters. First of all, his speed is nearly unmatchable when he charges his Lightning chakra. Second, his strength is off the charts. He punched thru Jugo's arm and chest, then survived Jugo's chakra cannon point blank, then came back and elbowed him in the face.

4) Is Naruto a Senju???
From my interpretation, i'm going to say yes. Tobi/Madara is clearly alluding to the similarities between the Senju's "will of fire" and Naruto's "will of fire". Tobi sees the 1st Hokage's strength and spirit within Naruto. the whole explanation of 'the senju vs uchiha fate' is heavily emphasized, and the panels show Sasuke and Naruto reflecting this "fate". Also, Kishi has been alluding to Naruto's possible Senju relation. Sasuke and Naruto fought at the Valley of the End, the location of Madara vs Hashirama. It was "fate" that brought Madara and Hashirama there, it was "fate" that brought Sasuke and Naruto there as well, and it's "fate" that is bringing them together again.

Eric said...

If in the ninja world the only one able to rival the Uchiha are the Senju then there must logically be a Senju alive to challenge the Uchiha. Who else is it going to be if not Naruto. There has been little to no other character developement for a Senju to just pop up and save the Ninja World. No matter how it is written Sasuke is an Uchiha and there will be the a power to stop him Senju Naruto Son Of Minato who acording to kishi/ Tsunade(Senju) resembles Dan her lover and her Brother Nawaki(Senju.

Swordfish said...

And about this "Kishi sexism" thing and girl characters...

Stop complaining. There are plenty of strong women in the manga. We have Tsunade, a Sannin of incredible strength and wisdom. Her pupil, Sakura, has inherited many of Tsunade's skills, such as super strength, fearlessness and medical mastery. Sakura and Chiyo were able to kill Akatsuki's Sasori. Although we don't know anything about Mizukage, i'm sure she's not to be underestimated. Hinata is growing stronger and more confident single-handedly. Konan was co-leader of Akatsuki, was Jiraiya's student and had a unique paper manipulation ability. and Karin is especially gifted at chakra sensing.

Clearly there are plenty of strong and able women. Because the manga has been emphasizing Akatsuki and Kage level ninjas for a couple months, we are losing sight of relative strength. We are so used to seeing Kage level ninjas that the other strong ninjas are being overshadowed and underestimated. Although they may seem week in comparison to some of the other characters, there are a lot of very capable women.

Anonymous said...

Read chapter 370 again about Jiraya questioning the reason behind sealing the 9 tail and saw Tobi standing on top of Madaras statue.

either he really is Madara or just standing on top of his ancestors statue?

niggermaniac said...

Madara has a Sharigan in one eye and Rinnegan in the other. Sasuke and Naruto will fight but we'll find out the Rasegan is not a finished technique, it has the same weakness as the Chidori, it can easily be countered since it requires a straight plunge. Naruto will get Sasuke's Sharigan after their dual, it will open up into the Mangekyo since he will meet the condition of killing his best friend. Naruto will combine the Chidori, Rasenga, fire/air elements, and use it with the Sharigan in Sage mode because he possess enough Chakra to maintain it (something Kakashi can't do). This training will be possible and fast because with the Sharigan Naruto will be able to see the Chakras flow and mix.

Tobi/Madara couldn't beat Itachi so right there we have a limitation on his power, when pain died it left an opening or opportunity to get the Rinnegan. I also think we'll find out Tobi/Madara works for another group far more dangerous than Akatski, the two Konoha elders, afterall they ordered the destruction of the Uchiha clan, they allowed Itachi to contact Madara to make it possible, and I think somehow all the powers from the tail beasts have made it back to them.

Anonymous said...

does anyone have an idea of what sakura goin to talk to naruto about.

$$mrbones$$

Anonymous said...

i can see what madara is doing. he want sasuke all for him self he is just playing with naruto to leave sasuke alone. but bastard doesn't know naruto well yet,he is guy who changed nagato so fuck off madara.

this story of madara could be true also.

anyway one thing was bugging me was nagato a sage?

Anonymous said...

wtf people are still saying tobi=not madara you guys are real dumbness of this world. either your comprehension skills suck or you are dumbnutts.

Anonymous said...

i dont think tobi finish talkig yet

Anonymous said...

What is Naruto's mom was a descendant of the senju clan?

Anonymous said...

1.Kishi has almost like a system inside the anime. One consisting of properties and elements and chakra levels. So I'm gonna play with that for a second. Sage of the six paths was the ultimate ninja a massiah. His two sons were 50%-75% compared to the sage of the six paths at pure maturation or full power due to the uniqueness of the sage. Anyways the sage was split into two trees (A brilliant analogy by UZUMAKI THE PAIN ALL CAPS ALL THE TIME) which would mean that the two sons were not anywhere near the sage of the six paths in terms of abilities or chakra but like a seedling that grows into a tree has much room to become strong......but yet never as strong or stronger than the sage of the six paths no matter how big the tree gets the bark is never as strong. The japanese have a high respect for their elders and there are few people that can surpass the sage of the six paths in power, in the story line........due to that as alone. NOW REMEMBER THIS NEXT POINT because it is a big one too. At this time very little has been revealed about where or how the chakra monsters AKA(also known as) the tailed beasts came into being. I can go into the different myths about them but it has no room here.MY ETERNAL MANKGEKYO LEVEL 2 SEES ALL-CONTACT

Anonymous said...

2a. Now let's skip a little forward in time to madara uchiha and the first hokage harashima senju. Uchiha and senju were able to go toe to toe. However there is still the possibility that neither of them could create the moon. Idealy after hundreds of years they could only create vilages, establish civilizations and trade, but they could not move mountains. But what COULD they do. Well the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th tailed beasts. SOME of the tailed beasts were given to each country and sealed to some of the hosts PROBABLY by hirashima senju(The first hokage) himself in some cases and PROBABLY by a technique that took days as apposed to hours as a way to establish a balance of power(balance of power by both manga and official wikia). Madara on the other hand only had an interst in taking over kanoha by gaining an ultimate power, the nine tailed fox's power. See at the height of his power with the eternal mangekyo sharingan he could only hope to.....in some cases it is stated that, "He controled the nine tailed fox like a pet" or "provided so much human malice he came to his location then used genjutsu or at first sight used genjutsu by mangekyo at some point during that time period to establish some kind of control" or maybe "the nine tailed fox had some kind of kinship or understanding with madara and they came to some kind of arangement." He was able to use his mangekyo all the time without any consiquences and it is RUMORED(By wikia) that he had absolute control over all sharingan and mangekyo sharingan powers respectively. Itachi used the word Immortal as well to describe madara. MY ETERNAL MANKGEKYO LEVEL 2 SEES ALL-CONTACT

Anonymous said...

2b. There are several descriptions or ideas that say a couple of ways he could have been or IS immortal. Some say his chakra was unique, some think his immortality was due to his eternal mangekyo sharingan changing his chakra overall..... after all a select few(Sage 6 and maybe((?)) his sons) had been on that level before him. "Madara" says that (loosely)" I was simply to stuborn to die." What we don't know is weather or not kishi meant that he could not die on the battlefield or that he was able to never age etc etc. What we do know is that he never had a chance to prove it, as the last time he was recorded to have been seen he died at the battle of the valley of the end and hirahima senju never has been shown to have aged either as the events between the two clans happened in a 10-20 year maybe longer (30-50 years) time period. Immortal or no there are limits to his power. Madara was shown pitting the nine tails against harashima senju at the valley of the end, and we don't know the results of that move or how instermental the nine tails was in that fight. What we do know is the valley of the end is one big lake flowing into another by way of a waterfall. Another thing we know is that the nine tails appeared again before the start of the series. It is unsafe to infer that control of the nine tails was taken from madara by hirashima senju himself, all we know is the fourth believed that tobi was controling the fox, but how can not be known as it is still too vague, but it IS safe to assume that neither had it in their power to truely control the fox as minato claimed the fox just as easily even if he did have to give his life to do so it probably took hours not days to do so. Like kishi the truth is in the beginning. What we can tell however is that harashima senju and madara uchiha at the height of their power were able to go toe to toe and match each other. Moreover we can tell that there is some kind of limit to the sage of the six paths, senju and uchiha, as well as get an idea of what those limits can look like.MY ETERNAL MANKGEKYO LEVEL 2 SEES ALL-CONTACT

Anonymous said...

3a. And along comes the fourth. He took the nine tailed fox splits it into two and put one half in naruto and throws the rest away like trash. Due to the nature of yin and yang, we don't know if naruto has the + or - or = to whatever it is equal to, locked inside of him only minato did and he's dead and didn't say in conversation with the fourth and might not have known himself. Also he accomplished a feat that neither uchiha and especially not senju was supposed to be capable of, as hirashima senju never sealed the nine tails nor was he able to in a matter of hours. With the fourth you have to still remember that no matter how powerful he was there were still rules. Rules consisting of properties and elements and chakra levels, rules that the sage of the six paths as well as kishi needed to adhere to. "Minato could wipe out an entire platoon in the blink of an eye without receiving a scratch", "Flee-on-sight orders were given to enemy shinobi during the Third Great Shinobi World War in case he ever appeared on the battlefield.","He was also shown to be very intuitive and analytical from how quickly he could determine the strength and weakness of a person's technique." He was unique from anyone else in history and due to the limitations by the sage of the six paths, senju and uchiha I don't see him or naruto being limited by what the aforementioned lineages are limited to, ever. Nor could the best that both senju and uchiha at the height of their battle prowess, nor genius could ever hope to achieve before the age of 30. Due to the limitations of the two sides after the split of such a powerful character such as the sage 6 into senju and uchiha I find it impossible that a characters like minato and naruto could fall into either category, especially when the only person that says so is talking about fire as in "will of fire."MY ETERNAL MANKGEKYO LEVEL 2 SEES ALL-CONTACT

Anonymous said...

3b. And the will is an idea, not a dna structure. And on the subject of senju they have become deluded to the point of.......being able to even understand what a senju is, is a little vague at this point. As in the only true heir to the senju seems to be harashima, the second and fifth hokage respectively, while the uchiha seem to have been bred in captivity and seem to have been the only true descendants of their lineage. Moreover to truly understand the world now, it would be a good idea to question "where did the sage 6 come from." This is something we don't know but is safe to assume that he came out of nowhere like a freak accident. If that's the case anyone that was gonna dethrone him as king would have to have a tie to his original lineage, not an offshoot and maybe not something he planned for. All I know is the way tsunade, jiraya, the third and many other senior characters that have had access to the most secret kanoha secrets have a "sacred" respect for the fourth, not that he is just some cousin, brother or son and naruto had no one growing up. It is also well known that the fox is the only one that truly can answer these questions, as he is the only one that has existed for 9,000 years and may even have existed before the sage 6. Also, if the statement was made "According to the third Naruto Databook, the Nine-Tails is the only one who knows the truth about the Uchiha clan and about Naruto." This statement leads me to believe that the only person that truly knows the truth about naruto would be the nine tails. In other words no matter what we think kishimoto gave the nine tails a card that says "You are gonna make people go wow with what you say, because they are not gonna see it coming."MY ETERNAL MANKGEKYO LEVEL 2 SEES ALL-CONTACT

Anonymous said...

4a.Moreover I would like to state that senju sees immortality jutsu's as being a dark art or taboo. This could have been why the sage of the six paths allowed himself to die, he wrote the rules he had to follow them. Another reason could be that in all his wisdom he was lacking a perspective. Sometimes when you can't figure something out you need to look at it another way and this could be why he gave his sons their inheritance before his death and chose the senju as his true heir in his final moments because the senju were most capable of seeing the world a better way. Either way he's dead.MY ETERNAL MANKGEKYO LEVEL 2 SEES ALL-CONTACT

Anonymous said...

5a.Tobi......I like this guy. "Tobi is a good boy." This character is shown to carry himself with malevolence. Malevolent loosely means production of evil or harm. When I think malevolent, I think of the devil, in some religions god. Let's use the devil from the christian bible. The devil was thought by some to have tempted Jesus in the desert by twisting the truth to meet his own gains and tempting Jesus. Now kishi is not ancient at all, he has matured and in this day in age may try to take biblical proportions one step further and try to produce a truly malicious character.......one that doesn't lie. The only time tobi is ever seen in a flashback was by itachi around the time of the uchiha massacre. And if you remember tobi did not pass down the order for the uchiha massacre, danzo did or so itachi claims. Moreover we can infer that he handled the massacre rather loosely or barely participated. To go nowhere near human folly, or to not drive the situation just let it spin out of control and wait for an opportunity, genius. Again, the earliest time he has been seen was around the time of the uchiha massacre. Moreover, he mobilized akatsuki post massacre. He probably mobilized after the massacre due to a representative of kanoha making a mistake, but we still can't tell from that. Itachi was sick tobi knew it, so did we. Sasuke had yet to come of age. That is all the facts/speculation we can do other than he mobilized at just the right time to still be there for sasuke. Oh yeah and there is also the statue used for the tailed beasts. And I hope I have not offended anyone with the biblical reference.MY ETERNAL MANKGEKYO LEVEL 2 SEES ALL-CONTACT

5th Hokage said...

Hm, I see that there is some discussion about women in Naruto.

I have to say only this... I have never seen such a powerful women in my life... Women can be strong as much as an emotional. Sakura is known to be easy to cry but she can kick your ass immediately. There are Kurenai, Anko, Temari, 5th Mizukage, Shizune, besides Tsunade and many others... who are really powerful and strong but yet can be easily emotional.

Sakura, Ino, Ten ten and Hinata are still learning but they are all strong when job has to be done.

It doesn't mean if woman shows her emotion side that she is weak... That is ridiculous... :) Women were always the one who showed their emotions and be strong.

That is the way women are :)

Anonymous said...

hey y u guys sayin naruto aint a senju read everything its all been leadin up to naruto bein part of sum clan haha plus u guys are lookin far too into it idiots

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

well can people speak english properly?cause it's not saying that naruto is a senju by madara, it's only that naruto has senju's spirit, and senju is younger brother descendant,and uchiha is older brother descendant(in my language,penerus...)and NOT THEIR KID!
however,
:Anyway, we all read the latest Manga, correct? So...... Could Naruto be part of the Senju clan? Heres my theory:

Its never been said if the senju clan became a seperate clan or not after the founding of Konoha. So, its possible that Naruto inherit Senju blood and was able to master what Minato could not.

My theory, Kushina had Senju blood within her. Theres no way Naruto could descend directly from Hashirama[spelling?], but has part of the clan.

We all have strong proof that its possible that Naruto has senju blood. Just look at these subjects:

Subject one: In part one, Naruto was able to master Shadow Clone Jutsu. Whats up with that!? That MUST tell you something, correct? And the Nine Tailed Fox only helps him in creating those clones. Funny, right? Is it possible, yes. And the Shadow Clones only helped him in training.

Subject two: In part two, Sasuke and Naruto were like 'brothers[Similar to the tale of Senju and Uchiha]'

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but Naruto was catching up to Sasuke really fast. He learned how to use the Rasengan properly within one week[Has I recall].

Subject Three: What if the Shadow Clone Jutsu was a signature technique of the Senju? Madara said that the younger brother had the body and spirit, correct? So some of them must had high chakra levels, and able to master the Shadow Clone Jutsu. With this, add this to their natural born talent for mastering all three forms of ninjutsu, this must had giving them their name Senju[Which means one thousand skill].. I'm just throwing this out there, but Narutos Signature Bunshin technique might be Senju trademark. And then it could had started up to the other nations such has Water Clone, Lightning Clone, ETC.

Subject Four: Naruto mastered what Minato could not. He also mastered what Jiraiya could not. Not only that, I'm starting to think that Naruto had a strong chakra level from his day of birth without the Nine Tailed Fox.

Thats all I have, but thats what I think..

Naruto Uzumaki must have Senju Blood..... (got this from mangafox.com)

what do you think?

raijin sakabato said...

@ tomoe 78 he he he thanks for the correction i ws typing it when i was half sleep, but u gave a nice view ,lol,and i thought of the same thing by now,it was a figurative not literal family link . Cheers

raijin sakabato said...

good break down swordfish how is ur uni going

Anonymous said...

Hurricanes are like women : when they come, they're wet and wild, but when they leave they take your house and car

this is what i think

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

#128

LOL, after i read what happened to yabuki kentaro~~~ i think the same ...>:(

sorry,out of topic^^

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

to think of it, this chapter bought a great amount of new ideas and theories, very nice kishi!

Kcobra99 said...

@ 125

those are some great points made there.

I don't Naruto is a direct desendent of Hashirama either but he may be related to the Senju through his mother Kushina. If anyone knows about her past it would be Tsunade(since she was so close to Jariaya and Minato) and Danzo(he has info on every body).

I was saying that about the relationship between Sasuke and Naruto earlier. Like Madara said they were destined to be rivals, and their relationship is proof of that. Out of everyone in the Konoha eleven Naruto was the only one to keep up with Sasuke in skill even though Sasuke is an Uchiha. As we know only Senju could take on the Uchiha, and Naruto is the only one in Konoha with the power o fight him. So to me that makes the possibility of Naruto being Senju even stronger.

I have an idea of where Kishi might be taking the story IF Naruto is Senju.

Madara said the ancestors of the Senju and Uchiha were bothers and the Sage of the Six Path had planed for them to bring peace to the world. But the older brother desire for revenge only brought chaos. As we know Naruto is the child of destiny, and its his purpose to bring the peace that the Great sage had originally wanted the 2 boys to achive. Naruto says his goal is to end the cycle of hatred, which was started by the Uchiha clan ancestor.

Naruto will not be able to achive world peace until he can end the cycle of hate and revenge that has cursed the Uchiha clan for generations. Sasuke and Naruto are like the reincarnation of the 2 brothers the Great Sage of Six Paths had given power too. But this time the younger brother(Naruto) has to use the love that dwells within him to save the older brother(Sasuke) from the hate that dwells within him. Then together they can finally bring peace to the ninja world.

Anonymous said...

yooo i have an idea for the final fight music between naruto and uchiha madara, check it out and see if this music goes good in an upcoming battle between naruto and madara

Immediate Music (Imperativa)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHrTTNBX8OU

Anonymous said...

To Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX part 1

-Its never been said if the senju clan became a seperate clan or not after the founding of Konoha. So, its possible that Naruto inherit Senju blood and was able to master what Minato could not.

Yes they did say if the senju clan became a seperate clan or not after the founding of Konoha. Harashima senju stayed and eventually became the first hokage, his blood brother became the second hokage and the seconds grandniece and grandaughter to the first became fifth hokage. They all bred inside kanoha it doesn't matter anyways if there are decendants outside the aformentioned because the breed had become too diluded or weak.

-My theory, Kushina had Senju blood within her. Theres no way Naruto could descend directly from Hashirama[spelling?], but has part of the clan.

It is well known that kushina hailed from the land of whirlpool. More over #116 through #122 have events that have been shown in the series to have happended and some things can be used from them. It is too early from kushina to be talked about but she probably had nothing in common with the senju other than she was a ninja. Another intersting fact is that the ninja village in the land of whirlpool has not been revealed as of yet. It's too early to say anything of kushina.

-Subject one: In part one, Naruto was able to master Shadow Clone Jutsu. Whats up with that!? That MUST tell you something, correct? And the Nine Tailed Fox only helps him in creating those clones. Funny, right? Is it possible, yes. And the Shadow Clones only helped him in training.

There are two different types of shadow clones. The first are just regular clones(Biushin no jutsu) the second are bushins that can cause damage but also attack and do damage not just trick people(kage bushin no jutsu). The question should be when was the first time he used kagebushins before or after jiraya taught him how to use the nine tailed fox's chakra. If he could not use them at full force before he trained with jiraya to learn how to use his fox chakra than he was weaker than most, in any case it wasn't he was.

-Subject two: In part two, Sasuke and Naruto were like 'brothers[Similar to the tale of Senju and Uchiha]'

Yes similar, but not the same. Moreover they fought at the valley of the end after he had lived in kanoha and had already been influenced by the townsfolk and finding his own ninja way throughout most of his training.

Anonymous said...

To Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX part 2

-Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but Naruto was catching up to Sasuke really fast. He learned how to use the Rasengan properly within one week[Has I recall].

This was well after he had learned about the fox. I don't know what you are getting at. Reguardless his genius was handed down from minato and kushina as well as his chakra. Also if you remember correctly jiraya teached naruto to use his chakra to make resengans without using the fox.

-Subject Three: What if the Shadow Clone Jutsu was a signature technique of the Senju? Madara said that the younger brother had the body and spirit, correct? So some of them must had high chakra levels, and able to master the Shadow Clone Jutsu. With this, add this to their natural born talent for mastering all three forms of ninjutsu, this must had giving them their name Senju[Which means one thousand skill].. I'm just throwing this out there, but Narutos Signature Bunshin technique might be Senju trademark. And then it could had started up to the other nations such has Water Clone, Lightning Clone, ETC.

It is safe to assume that each country or region within the ninja village system had their own clones well before senju even existed as a form of defence during the ninja wars before the village system was first established. If that's the case the kanoha shadow clones were their trademark. But it is said the sage 6 traveled the land bringing peace to the world and spreading the teaching of the ninja (loosely). That would mean that each region had been using clones since sage 6 tought them not the other way around.

-Subject Four: Naruto mastered what Minato could not. He also mastered what Jiraiya could not. Not only that, I'm starting to think that Naruto had a strong chakra level from his day of birth without the Nine Tailed Fox.

That's what I was trying to say in #116 through #122. He is not in any way related to the senju and not limited by average techniques, elements and chakra levels any offshoot or relative of the sage of the six paths is bound by nor any discovered line of ninja to have been revealed thus far in the anime. The only thing that has been said is......

It is also well known that the fox is the only one that truly can answer these questions, as he is the only one that has existed for 9,000 years and may even have existed before the sage 6. Also, if the statement was made "According to the third Naruto Databook, the Nine-Tails is the only one who knows the truth about the Uchiha clan and about Naruto." This statement leads me to believe that the only person that truly knows the truth about naruto would be the nine tails.

....Including madara

Anonymous said...

To Kcobra99
those are some great points made there.

I don't Naruto is a direct desendent of Hashirama either but he may be related to the Senju through his mother Kushina. If anyone knows about her past it would be Tsunade(since she was so close to Jariaya and Minato) and Danzo(he has info on every body).- Kushina did not come from kanoha, nor was she a senju in any way remember 1st, 2nd and 5th. Tsunade was close yes danzo. Someone mentioned earlier that they read the main villain has not been shown yet....

I was saying that about the relationship between Sasuke and Naruto earlier. Like Madara said they were destined to be rivals, and their relationship is proof of that. Out of everyone in the Konoha eleven Naruto was the only one to keep up with Sasuke in skill even though Sasuke is an Uchiha. As we know only Senju could take on the Uchiha, and Naruto is the only one in Konoha with the power to fight him. So to me that makes the possibility of Naruto being Senju even stronger.- Remember the lashing the eight tails took to sasuke too. Also we don't know if in part one sasuke was reacting to naruto before training to become ninja's was negative because of the fox or senju, but you make a good point.

I have an idea of where Kishi might be taking the story IF Naruto is Senju. - I'm intersted, explain on.

Madara said the ancestors of the Senju and Uchiha were bothers and the Sage of the Six Path had planed for them to bring peace to the world. But the older brother desire for revenge only brought chaos. As we know Naruto is the child of destiny, and its his purpose to bring the peace that the Great sage had originally wanted the 2 boys to achive. Naruto says his goal is to end the cycle of hatred, which was started by the Uchiha clan ancestor.- I read break the curse instead of cycle. That could also mean all in all larger than any great sage hate or conflict, it could be larger than that.

Naruto will not be able to achive world peace until he can end the cycle of hate and revenge that has cursed the Uchiha clan for generations. Sasuke and Naruto are like the reincarnation of the 2 brothers the Great Sage of Six Paths had given power too. But this time the younger brother(Naruto) has to use the love that dwells within him to save the older brother(Sasuke) from the hate that dwells within him. Then together they can finally bring peace to the ninja world. - Remember there is this thing next to his "love" called the nine tails fox and he is the only one other than kishi himself that can tell us of naruto's ancestry not madara.

All in all if there is another side of my thoughts it would be this well played kcobra99.MY ETERNAL MANKGEKYO LEVEL 2 SEES ALL-CONTACT

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

just make it clear, in 125 it's not actually from me, i read it from mangafox and share it with you guys, thanks for replying btw^^

Anonymous said...

UZUMAKI THE PAIN #96..

U R TOTALLY WRONG...
MADARA ISN'T THE STRONGEST/GREATEST SHINOBI EVER LIVED, THERE R STILL SAGE OF SIX PATH AND HIS SONS..

AND REMEMBER MADARA LOST TO THE 1ST HOKAGE HASHIRAMA SENJU BEFORE..

SORRY 2 DISSAPOINT U BUT MADARA JUZ ISN'T THE BEST EVER.. LOL

Anonymous said...

it's another chapter about sasuke....

seriuously.. is d manga called naruto or sasuke?!

what happen to neji, rock lee, shino, kabuchimaru, konan, kisame, zetsu, shikamaru, ino, tenten, gai, killerbee, kiba, hinata?

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

the focus on naruto shippuden is the bond between naruto and sasuke, shippuden is an arc about it

Anonymous said...

#139

Very good man way to hold it down.MY ETERNAL MANKGEKYO LEVEL 2 SEES ALL-CONTACT

Anonymous said...

#138

Something interesting I can add. The first part ended at 245. 245x2 is 490. We are at 462, if this is any indication 490 is close to the end of this part.MY ETERNAL MANKGEKYO LEVEL 2 SEES ALL-CONTACT

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

#140... i don't get it^^

however, is senju overrated?i mean, not all senju is able to do mokuton(tsunade isn't able to,am i right?),if naruto is a senju, that only proves that the battle between naruto and sasuke is a fate, however, let's take a peek in naruto shippuden the movie 1 (the one with shino), maybe it'll end that way(NO!!! I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PART AFTER THE LIE LIE LIE SONG!!!!!

...LOL)

Anonymous said...

however, is senju overrated?i mean, not all senju is able to do mokuton(tsunade isn't able to,am i right?),if naruto is a senju, that only proves that the battle between naruto and sasuke is a fate, however, let's take a peek in naruto shippuden the movie 1 (the one with shino), maybe it'll end that way(NO!!! I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PART AFTER THE LIE LIE LIE SONG!!!!!

-Movies are not cannon, or main story. They are side stories. Tsunade's chakra's are unnamed as of this point, so we don't know.

"According to the third Naruto Databook, the Nine-Tails is the only one who knows the truth about the Uchiha clan and about Naruto."MY ETERNAL MANKGEKYO LEVEL 2 SEES ALL-CONTACT

Anonymous said...

#142

By the way the 2nd hokage didn't use mokuton and tsunade probably doesn't.

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

143

well, but it'll cool if it happens right?he, the one who's strong enough to disobey the fate.!

Makster said...

Hi again,
Something that many people seem to be forgetting, which I think is very morbid and exciting, is that Naruto is having a conversation with the man that caused the death of his father! Now this will obviously have to pop up in their conversation, and I can imagine Naruto will have plenty of reasons to well up with rage (which I believe he will keep under control somehow). Madara will probably give some more interesting insight into the events that unfolded 15 years ago.

Oh, and by the way, Tobi IS Uchiha Madara! He DID say it himself, and absolutely all the evidence leads to that. The most important piece of evidence is that he was the only person to be able to control the Kyuubi, and did so twice (vs Hashirama and vs Minato). There are NO grounds, with the information that we now have, to believe that Tobi is NOT Madara. So drop it, you're making fools of yourselves...

Anonymous said...

Tobi is Madara u stupid cow watch manga agian

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

#147

no flaming please^^

UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

ONE PIECE 556 IS A GREAT CHAPTER

BUT MOST HILARIOUS AND IMPORTANT IS PAGE NO 16-17

ALL HAIL

MONKEY D. LUFFY

THUNDERBOLT READ THAT CHAPTER

IS IS WAY BETTER THAN NARUTO 462

UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

ALL HAIL MADARA SAMA

EYE OF MOON PLAN IS TO
GAIN THE SUCCESSOR SHIP OR THE POWER TAKEM WAWNY FROM THE UCHIHA'S

MY THEORY IS THAT

MADARA WANT TO BRING PEACE IN THE WORLD

AS A SURVIVOR

BUT HE ISN'T THAT MUCH POWERFUL TO DO IT.

HENCE HE NEED BEASTS
HENCE MADARA IS ALIKE A MESSIAH

BUT HE HAS HUMAN FEELINGS TOO

HE WANT REVENGE TOO

SuperCHunky said...

hey ppl ^.^ just waned to say ive read some and perosnlly i think for those of you ho thnk naruto is a direct descendant are right, haha ^.^

think about it this way, naruto would have to be directly linked to hashirama and his lineage to be of true descent right? but dont forget the senju clan was formed from various peaople not actually linked by blood, otherwise theyd all have some kind of blood limit like the uchiha, the senju is more of a collection of people with beliefs, so minatos parents could have come from anywhere around the ninja world, there was no way hashirama had that many children ¬.¬ or his ancestors for tht matter haha, the senju was before hashirama and the uchiha before madara, all madara did was give the uchiha a name, you cant seriously think he was the first uchiha EVER? cus where wud he have got it from then? so while sasuke has direct proof of lineage via the sharingan, naruto is most likely simply linked byhis belief, like most in konoha, the byakugan did precede the sharingan, but i guess they were an unimportant part to which ddnt inherit the will of hatred from the older brother, since they joined konoha, althought u must keep in mind the hyuuga ways are somewhat strongly tilted towards believing power is everything.

my point being naruto is unlikely linked by blood but by belief, remember the names say it all, namikaze and uzumaky,if he was related his nname would be hashirama or something known, get ma drift :D?

love ya all

Anonymous said...

Xx*To-LOVE-Ru*xX

#UTP, well it's just a pic where luffy drop from the sky (!!!)...LOL

i miss where naruto is funny T_T

UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

MY SECOND THEORY

MADARA EYE OF MOON PLAN

IS TOO BECOME THE SUCCESSOR OF SO6P

THE SUCCESSOR MEANT TO BRING PEACE IN WORLD

IN OTHER WORDS BY CONCURRING THE WORLD HE CAN BRING
FORCED PEACE IN THE WORLD

AS THE WISH OF ELDER SON OF SO6P

RULE THE WORLD MADARA WISH

BRING PEACE SO6P WISH

HOW CAN THAT BE ACHIEVED

IN SIMPLE WORDS

KILL ALL THE SENJU CLAN

AND UCHIHA CLAN AS WELL

BECAUSE UCHIHA'S ALL NOT THE REAL BLOOD

EXCEPT MADARA

NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF REVENGE BUT TO BRING POWER TO ORIGINAL BLOOD MADARA MASSACRE HIS OWN CLAN

BY KILLING BOTH CLAN'S

HE WILL REMAIN THE ONLY SURVIVER AS WELL AS CHOICE FOR A SUCESSOR

UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

kishi is fooling with all who think that naruto is a senju

maybe naruto is related to s06p

but not directly to either senju or uchiha

by giving so much clues he does want us to predict that naruto is a senju

but i believe naruto isn't the one

UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

kishi loves sasuke a lot

even he told in a interview that sasuke character is some much close to him

it reminded kishi of someone

from the starting of the series

there is sasuke sasuke sasuke

sasuke mystrey
sasuke pain
sasuke hatred
sasuke revenge

kishi even u wear eyes of sasuke

so naruto series is not about hero naruto uzunaki

but of a avenger

who distract from the path of truth
to the darkness

where the real humans reside

where is the real heaven is
if any
but last 10 chapters are all uchiha's

Kcobra99 said...

@ 152

I agree, I liked Naruto more when he was stupid little kid that loved life pulled stupid pranks, not a peace loving tree huger that gets WAY too emotional about Sasuke. I know he has to save him, but he could do it without acting like a bitch. He is going to have to kick someone ass really bad for me to forgive that stunt he pulled by letting that girl ninja kick his ass for Sasuke.

UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

all hail luffy d. monkey

SO WHAT IS MADARA WANT

FROM NARUTO

IT ISN'T THE TAILED BEAST

IT IS NARUTO HIMSELF

Anonymous said...

if naruto is a direct link to the younger brother,then would have to have the same power the younger brother had,something as powerful as rinnegan,which the older brother had,in the begining arcs,in the fight with gara,naruto had no chakra left,but somehow,and suddenly he released incredible chakra and created thousands of clones with only his own chakra,which is something impossible for a human,and since the younger brother got physical energy,maybe thats what happened to naruto then,his care for sakura and sasuke was so strong that he awakened his kekkeigenkai for a minute!!,which my might be unlimited physical energy,and strong will,anyway,i still think nagato was a direct descendant of the older brother!!,and now maybe naruto is a direct descendant of the younger brother!!,and not a senju!!,but even more powerful!!

UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

THAT'S WHY ONE PIECE ROCKS

IT IS ALWAYS HILARIOUS WITH GOOD FIGHT SCENES

AS WELL AS FUNNY DIALOGUES

NARUTO SERIES BUT IS WAY MUCH GREAT THAT ANY SERIES IN TERMS OF QUOTES AND DIALOGUES

UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

HEY ARE PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT NARUTO IS A SENJU

MAYBE THE YOUNGER BROTHER HAD 2 WIFES

YB + 1 WIFE ======== SENJU

YB + 2 WIFE ============ RINNEGAN

YB + 2 WIFE ============ DISABILITY PRODUCES ANOTHER SECRET CHILD WHOSE DECENDENT IS NARUTO

UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

ALSO KISHI ISN'T A FOOL

HE IS FOOLING EVERYONE ELSE

WHAT EVER IS THE CASE I SEE NO ENERGY EITHER IN NARUTO UZUMAKI OR IN KISHIMOTO

UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

also one more thing everyone wAs saying that dark figure behind sasuke is a beast or nine tail or lot of crap

i was from the moment that figure appeared saying it that it is sAsUke 's darkness dark chakra

and a genjutsu

whiCh now appear true

also that looks like nine tail
becAuse sasuke has seen nine tails twice

first when naruto and gambunta changed into nine tails

second inside naruto he just copied the face of nine tail

to look more dangerous

IF BEFORE A FIGHT YOU ARE ABLE TO MAKE LITTLE BIT FEARSOME YOUR ENEMY THEN YOUR CHANCE OF WINNING INCREASE TREMENDOUSLY

TO REMOVE THE SAMURAI'S AND RELEASE HIS DARK CHAKRA SASUKE NEEDED A MEDIUM AND THAT MEDIUM AS FACE OF NINE TAILS

ALSO SHI IS ALIVE

Anonymous said...

what are u talking about utp? do u even understand urself?

Kita/Naruto said...

that rue DL @158 maybe you are right or atleast thats a good theory

Kita/Naruto said...

am so busy lately i cant get to comment but escelent theoris everyone

Anonymous said...

i tihnk sasuke is fooling madara to get what he wants remmber the whole "were using akatsuki sppech" when they were fighting killabee. i think what sasuke really wants is the truth from danzo. nutihng else. just the truth.

Anonymous said...

Hello from Albania.

I've read most of your comments.Does it really matters if Naruto is Senju?I dont think so.I want to say that the sage of 6 paths was the founder of ninja world,but it doesnt mean he knew all the jutsus.He knew the basic of jutsus.Most of the Jutsus were created by different ninjas in different times.The sealing jutsu that was used by the fourth to seal the Kyubi in naruto(and from the third to seal the 1st and 2nd)was created by Minato.And Tobi/Madara is really the strongest one alive,but it doesnt mean he cant be killed.this sealing Jutsu can work on him too.

And i am starting to belive that Madara is going to be killed by Naruto with Sasuke and Sakura.The three of them.Just like Orochimaro Jyraya and TSunade who fought against someone i dont remember its name and they were called the legendary sanins.They couldnt kill him but Naruto will succede.

I think that the fight between Madara and the 1st was not becouse they were destined or hated each other,but was to choose who was the stronest to become Hokage.Correctme if I am wrong.Thats all for now

raijin sakabato said...

well i have the same idea that madara will be defeated by those 3,because kishi hates naruto and doesnt want him to look uber cool,well pain arc was an exception.
but seriously i think if any one is gonna defeat madara its gonna b naruto and saske,u can throw sakura,she was destined to surpass tsunade.
and then there will b a fight between naruto and saske .well kishi can make it a lot more dramatic.

UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

RAIJIN BHAI

IT CAN BE POSSIBLE

BUT I DON'T WANNA SEE MADARA SAMA DIE LIKE THAT

Kcobra99 said...

@ DL 158

That is a great theory, I forgot all about the times when Naruto suddenly has a huge reserve of chakra when he is supposed to be drained of all his energy.

DEMON_4_EVER said...

well on a other note

what i want to know is what is the role of the tailed beasts.....i want to know why are they made and how....... and cuz of what......... how can all of the bests have a host when there are only 5 great nations..... so why and how do the other 4 fit in ???? ....i don't want to know the wiki answer to all of my questions i want to know how they fit in the manga....... and did they make the world of naruto or did the sage make them and again why? are they god do they have gods in naruto and in the old days some ppl have posted comments like my next one is going to be so as you all know my next post is going to show you all what i have read on this forum be4 about all of my questions now .... all do they just answer some of the question i am asking how is all this know from the manga ...... cuz i think that the information in my next post is going to have a historical look to it and not the manga ...so i hope you all get what i am asking and saying here....

Anonymous said...

i think tobi/madara is covered with sharingan eyes on all his face ....

UZUMAKI THE PAIN said...

I WAS JUST RE READING MANGA WHERE MADARA HAD SHOWN UP

AFTER 4 CHAPTER I FOUND THIS

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/364/18/

LOOK AT MADARA SAMA HAND'S

IT LOOKS LIKE MACHINE HANDS

ROBOTS

DEMON_4_EVER said...

Eight Tails(Hachibi)
Yamata no Orochi
(Also known as Hachimata)
Tale in the Legend of the Tailed Beasts:Yamata no Orochi is a Snake bijuu.It has crimsom red eyes,eight heads and eight tails(also depicted to having trees and vines growing around them)and has the power of the Demon world,a symbol of evil.Each head of Yamata no Orochi represents a symbol:SoulGhostEvilDevilMonstrousKillThe Afterworld and Death
Its powers were originally weak,the members of the Kusanagi clan,when attacking it,acted carelessly,using the legendary sword Kusanagi no Tsurugi(Oro’s sword) Because of that, as a consequence,Yamata no Orochi takes the sword from them, absorbing the power contained inside,and becoming an incredibly powerful creature, and finally storing it in its body
With the new power,Yamata no Orochi releases an insane amount of dark energy,awakening the other Bijuu and becoming arrogant.Yamata no Orochi proceeds to defeat many of the Bijuu,but when it battles with Kyuubi,it is defeated.The cause of this is simple:Kyuubi has an unlimited amount of power,making even a hole in the Kusanagi sword.As this happens,it shows how tremendously powerful Kyuubi is,deserving of the “King of Bijuutitle.Not even Sarutobi and Enma(I’m not sure how those two are into the legend) could scratch the Kusanagi no Tsurugi.(That makes connections to the Oro x Sandaime battle)
Legend also depicted it as having a power able to rival Kyuubi’s[in quality],but the fact is,Yamata no Orochi’s does have a limit.
Situation in the Ancient War of the 9 Gods:Battled 5 times;4Wins,1Losses
Wins:Shukaku,Isonade,Kaku,Raijuu
Losses:Kyuubi
Fate:Yamata no Orochi awaits a genius of the Yagami (NOT the Kanji of Yagami from Death Note, but Yagami as in Eight Gods: ??)clan,which is the arch enemy of the Kusanagi clan. The purpose is to awake it[Yamata no Orochi],in order to fight Kyuubi again.
Since Yamata no Orochi’s power inherits in the Yagami Clan, If the heir appears as the first genius in 1000 years that is able to awake Yamata no Orochi’s ability, it will be completely restored. Once the process is done, the genius with such crucial task will be destroyed due to the true body of Yamata no Orochi resurfacing, which has an all-new power. It won’t be found before the decisive battle with Kyuubi,and will be able to kill no matter of thing,destroy any type of place,and attain infinite vision(as Kyuubi has).The core of Yamata no Orochi’s power is in a kind of forbidden sealing jutsu. As soon as the Yagami clan heir comprehends enough of it, a bigger,much stronger power will surface in the grasp of Yamata no Orochi.
Japanese Myth Appearance:A super Snake of Eight heads and Eight tails,attached to a single body.Has a deep brown color.It definitely is the biggest bijuu - the lenghth of it is over eight mountains.Originally,it was weaker than Houkou and Nekomata;however,that was 1000 years before a brave warrior tried defeating it with the Kusanagi no Tsurugi.In the process,the sword’s power is absorbed instead by Yamata no Orochi,thus greatly expanding his power.He continues though to be able to use freely the sword in his belly.
Ability:The legendary sword:Kusanagi no Tsurugi; summoning of evil spirits
Bijuu Strength Ranking:2nd
Bijuu Chakra/Stamina Ranking:2nd
Symbolic Element:Devil
Origin / Discovered in: An old battlefield in Osaka
Personal notes: Now,everyone knows this one resembles Orochimaru, but what I like is the “Yagami genius” legend,which OF COURSE screams Sasuke.
More info about Yamata no Orochi:
There is the story of the killing of the Eight-Headed Serpent by Susanoo.According to the legend,a local town had been living in fear of the Serpent,and the townspeople offered the sacrifice of a young girl each year to keep it appeased.Lord Susano heard about the town's dilemma,and became determined to slay the beast. He exterminated the serpent by serving it alcohol,and then cutting off its heads while it was intoxicated. Between the Kagura performances,this one is the most famous

Swordfish said...

Hey Raijin (and everyone else), hope all is well.

I personally believe Naruto is a Senju. I'm still a bit hesitant to say that he's a direct descendant of the 1st Hokage himself, but i'm sure he's got some Senju blood in him. Naturally, as time passes, the purity of any clan's blood thins. Families and friends grow and the connection to the common ancestor gradually widens, so it's possible Naruto's family is a distanced member of the original clan.
Similar to Neji, Neji is an outer member of the Hyuuga clan, but still a clansmen, as opposed to Hinata, who is Hyuuga royalty.

Which side of Naruto's parents are possibly Senju??

I'm actually inclined to think Minato, rather than Kushina, was Senju. The Senju's founded Konoha, so, if Kushina was a senju, why would she be from the Whirlpool country?
As we know, Tsunade is a senju. She has blonde hair, Minato has blonde hair and Naruto has blonde hair. by no means am i saying hair color proves Naruto or Minato's bloodline, but it may be a hint? or it may just be coincidence?

DEMON_4_EVER said...

Nine Tails(Kyuubi)
Kyuubi no Youko
(Nine-Tailed Demon Fox)
Jinchuuriki:Uzumaki Naruto
Tale in the Legend of the Tailed Beasts: This is a bijuu in the shape of a nine-tailed fox,and the strongest of them all.The reason he is so powerful is simple:Kyuubi has an unlimited amount of power,earning it the “King of Bijuu” title.The power is generated by Kyuubi’s Fire Seal,and as a result,after battling for 100 years with Yamata no Orochi,it becomes exhausted;but Kyuubi continues standing,able to fight.It is also pretty cunning and smart
Situation in the Ancient War of the 9 Gods:Battled 4 times;All of them victories
Wins:Nekomata,Houkou,Raijuu,Yamata no Orochi
Fate:In unclear whereabouts,Kyuubi continues to kill all the people on his way to find the one who awakened him, and the one who managed to seal him before.(That being Yondaime,probably)Yamata no Orochi didn’t tell Kyuubi, though,that the one who awakened him was the Eight Tails himself
Japanese Myth Appearance: Kyuubi no Youko is the strongest(S Level)Bijuu of the Japanese Myth.Its body has a red fur;Kyuubi represents the element of Fire.Its abilities are incredible.Because it has never been defeated by any youkai,its total strength is unable to estimate.His tails create cyclones by spinning quickly, and Kyuubi proceeds to rip its enemies with its huge claws.At the same time his fur may shoot fireballs similar to meteorites endlessly,instantly destroying villages.In the ancient Bijuu wars,a challenge results in Houkou being severely wounded,and Nekomata nearly dying, but ending up being rescued by his master,Shinigami(God of Death).Yamata no Orochi depended on the Kusanagi no Tsurugi to fight Kyuubi,but was defeated and the sword received a cracked hole,courtesy of our kitsune.
Ability:Fire element attacks,Flaming claws,and other things depicted above
Bijuu Strength Ranking:1st
Bijuu Chakra/Stamina Ranking:1st
Symbolic Element:Fire(God of Fire)
Origin/Discovered in:Hidden Altar of Gods in Kobe
Personal Notes:Interesting how he searches for the one who sealed him.Also,it would be nice if Oro was the cause of Kyuubi’s awakening–the reason Kyuubi attacked the village may very well be because it’s the place he was last seen
More info about Kyuubi:The Kyuubi is an intelligent demon that is capable of speech and has a scathing,sadistic personality.However he has also a sense of fairness and sarcastic honour,as he sometimes helps Naruto when he is in a difficult situation.This could be for purely selfish reasons,however,for it is speculated that if Naruto dies, then the Kyuubi will die with him.It seems likely that the Kyubi has some concept of a loathing respect for Naruto and even more

DEMON_4_EVER said...

so to answer 171 you have to see what is know from 174 and 176

Anonymous said...

I cant belive no one noticed this but...Danzo is after sasuke's sharingan.

DEMON_4_EVER said...

those are just 2 beast i have all of them as i said be4 some ppl posted this a while back about the bests

Anonymous said...

uchiha clans....are GAY!!! sasgay madagay itagay... all of them are gay and they are after naruto's a**. because gays like assh*le m i ryt gaylovers!!!

Anonymous said...

seriously this is wat would happen sasuke kill mizukage and comes for danzo whos nowere and naruto vex cus of madura and nine tails sasuke senses the chakra and comes over naruto kills him there and thas it BYUKUGAN!!

Anonymous said...

DEMON_4_EVER 179

it was DL who posted it a while back

DEMON_4_EVER said...

yea i was thinking it was him but could not remember cuz i kind of remember that thing being reposted a couple of times like 3 or 4 times in like 3 wicks but i don't remember ofc

Anonymous said...

hey i was wondering??? after they are done with the iron country, and then go back to konoha what will naruto rank be ??? he is a genin after all and shikm dads forgot his name said he is beyhond us when he was in sage mode so is naurto now a jonin or is he at hokage level??? and can he skip ranks???. sorry for the weird writeing im not from the states.. thanks mates..

Anonymous said...

The final Naruto Vs Sasuke Battle

"PREDICTION"

--It will be again at the same valley...

--The successful mission will be headed by shikamaru...
because he failed it last time.

--Considering the previous battles I think Senju VS Uchiha should be correct...

--Our heroes Naruto and Sasuke will have overcome the "CHAIN OF HATRED" after their final battle...

AFTER BATTLE

--They will team up to eliminate the person responsible for their sufferings...I think Madara is not their ultimate enemy...someone new would emerge soon!!

--Now the LOVE aspect, Till now we know that Sakura desperately loves sasuke and also confesses it before...I think Naruto is attracted towards Sakura...He is yet to find out and confess LOVE to anyone...so we have to wait and see...

--I don't think anyone of the two will die.. because Sasuke will revive his clan and Naruto will be a Hokage...

--I strongly believe that Madara is hiding his eternal MS under the mask in his left eye..

Naruto The Senju said...

hey it's true that theres Uzumaki BloodLine ??

Anonymous said...

The Idea of Naruto having kekegenkai contradicts the baseline of story that "He is not a gifted genius to begin with and will become Hokage on his own hardwork and guts "
The same thing even makes Rock Lee think that he and Naruto are the same....

Anonymous said...

I have a theory that solves the whole Rinnegan, Sharingan, Byakugan bullshit.The following are the elements of my theory:

1. The byakugan isn't derived from the rinnegan in any way.
2. The older son of Rikudou who had the rinnegan had a child with a woman from the hyuga clan.
3. The byakugan and rinnegan then combined to form the sharingan. This is so since kakashi said in the chuunin exams that the sharingan was derived from the byakugan. I believe he didn't know about the rinnegan.
4. Two keke genki can merge to create a new one.

Also since madara said that naruto has the fire of the senju clan in him, I believe that the uzumaki clan or Minato's clan was derived from the senju clan in some way. Therefore naruto can probably use earth, water and combine the two, to wood element like yamato or the first hokage who was from the senju clan.

Anonymous said...

why is everyone saying naruto is a senju, i think its a little too early to declare anything. we have no proof whether minato is a senju and naruto mom absolutely cant be senju she is from a different country remember.

i also think that naruto gonna inherit a bloodline trait thats dormant from either minato or his mom. i hope kishi brings naruto mom in soon.

i think madara plans to start a war by disturbing the balance of the 5 nations. sasuke is gonna kill raikage which will unbalance everything and there will be big war like kishi said in interview. and in that war a leader will arise, guess who, NARUTO!!!

i also want to see naruto coorperate with amegakure and konan, i cant wait till the whole story unfolds

h-m

Orlie said...

@UTP 173

that is not tobi's hands, that is his legs armor, u can see them when he is talking to sasuke.

Orlie said...

h-m

hi man, that is my tho too, i say it couple of time, sasuke gona kill raikage to star the damn war, that what tobi want and he want to test naruto if he is able to stop sasuke like he did with nagato, after sasuke kill raikage they gona escape and what will hapen next i really dont know lol

nick239 said...

Everyone who's saying naruto is not senju are wrong and you will all see that in the neear future madara made it clear saying that naruto and sasuke was destine to be rival just like the seju before naruto just like the uchihas before sasuke,naruto is senju that's it tsunade is naruto grandma why i believe that tsunade maybe was pregnant before his boyfriend die and gave birth to minato leave him in j-man care then left the village that's my theory just my thought.

Hello from Chicago

Anonymous said...

if sasuke revives uchiha... who is he going to revive it with. no biased answers pls. im real curious

Orlie said...

like i say before, when a character have name and skill in naruto it mean in the future that character gona raise, and i think Toka Senju have to be a hint about tobi talking that naruto have the WOF or can be a senju, we dont know who is minato's mom yet, about the blonde hair i dont think that make sence.. ino have blonde hair too and his dad, so that not the case.. when uchiha and senju made peace u can see the 3 senju's, 1hokage his bro the 2hokage and Toka Senju.

◄Asuma Jr.► said...

Hello Everyone, it's been a while. I've been away, waiting for a good chapter to come out. Now we finally know some history behind the so6p and the uchiha-senju rivalry. Hehehe, and we also see the power of the raikage, sasuke is about to get whooped real bad. Jus because you can see his chakra, doesn't mean that you can react fast enough to avoid him, hehehe, this is gonna be interesting.

Anonymous said...

who is toka senju??? never heard of him

Tomoe said...

#196
the genjutsu master of the senju clan

nick239 said...

Guys there is a chance toka senju is still alive she would be 27 now so i think kishi will show her in the story.

Anonymous said...

who is toka senjuuuu????

Orlie said...

@nick

like i say before she "Was" 27 when konoha was bild, meanning that maybe she marrie a non-senju male and we can asume that minato is a senju cuz of that? and that what make naruto a senju? im not saying he is and im not saying that he is not, is just my theory, and nick.. yeah when a character have full name, and skill in naruto serie is cuz kishi will put that character in the future, so like i say Toka Senju is a key.

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