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Anonymous said...

Naruto will not be the one to kill Pain..

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Anonymous said...

1?

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Anonymous said...

im the 2nd..hehe..well2x..this is all about pain..pain..

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Anonymous said...

I'm The Fourth...!!

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Anonymous said...

I am Tsunade !!

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Gogeta said...

I think masashi is becomin gay. Why the hell would u name ur dog tiny in a middle of war by starving children.

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Andrea said...

Is Tiny the English translation of Chibi?

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St. Elsewhere said...

I wonder how many more boring chapters there will be in this story arc?

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Thunderbolt said...

haha 2 more boring chapters r there

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ISHAN GUPTA said...

this is getting a drag alll kishi is doing is dragging this arc by useless stories

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Anonymous said...

cirik ayam caritonyo maleh den deang kanciang!!!!

how boring the chpter is...wtf

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doom said...

i think pain want to die with hands of naruto after geting his answer.chapter was good.we will get to know what happen to pain and his friends & who killed the hanzo he was storng

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Anonymous said...

yahiko is very much the same with JIO FREED.... from 666 satan.. just check it at http://www.onemanga.com/666_Satan/1/13/
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http://www.onemanga.com/666_Satan/1/14/

same dream.. I mean.. but if you read it(666 satan) more.. you'll finds so many same things in naruto based from 666 satan or maybe it's 666 satan that's based from naruto i don't know.....

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Anonymous said...

12 nagato killed hanzou!

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Anonymous said...

13 well after all he is masashis brother and i think he steels masashis idears

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Anonymous said...

this is boring, yes, but this makes naruto becomes the best.. the pyhsicological(how to write it? damn)part...not like any other material arts-type of manga,..

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Sarang said...

god knows hw long it will take to reach for anime to be able to reach up to manga

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Anonymous said...

he truth about Uchiha Madara 1/5

This is a theory of my own, and I before I reveal it, I’ll just remind you all that Naruto is fiction! Now of cause you all knew that, but the reason why I am mentioning it, is that it seems like you guys sometimes forgets the fact, that since it is fiction, it means that nothing is a coincident. No characters look alike, for no reason, no character says or do anything, without a greater meaning behind it.
I must say I find it rather annoying that a lot of people, in the argument about weather Tobi really is Madara or not, always comes with the argument “Tobi is Madara, it has been stated by Tobi himself, end of discussion”. Does it not occur to you that just because a character states something, it doesn’t mean it’s true? The only reason Tobi declares he is Madara, is because Kishi want us to believe it. Even though it is Tobi in the manga that says it, it is infarct the author himself that states it. To say that just because Tobi says that he is Madara, it means that he is Madara, is a very wage argument.
At last, let me add that this I began write before the latest chapter, with Yondaime appearing, so that has not been taking into consideration, however I doubt it would change anything.
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Old 03-15-2009, 04:31 PM #2
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The truth about Uchiha Madara 2/5

Madara and his brother were equals in every possible way. They both achieved Mangekyou Sharingan. But Madara, who often confronted the Senju Clans leader, used his Mangekyou Sharingan so much, that he eventually became blind. Like Itachi loved Sasuke too much to kill him, so did Madaras brother love Madara so much, that he willingly gave his eyes, by Madaras own selfish wish. For unknown reasons, Madaras brother seems to have died from this.
With his newfound power the strife between the two clans continued, but eventually a truce was declared, and Konoha founded. Due to differences Madara ended up in a one-last-battle with the Senju clans leader, the first Hokage, and Madara wanted the Hokage title for himself. Madara lost, and nearly died, but somehow he survived. Broken, he fleet and kept himself hidden for years. What remained of one of the greatest of all shinobies, was just a shadow. It is likely that Madara lost his abilities, perhaps even his eyes, though I find that unlikely, but he may have lost one of them. However I do find it likely that it was the new Mangekyou Sharingans immortal power which saved Madara, rather than his skills.
After several years, Madara however found a new power. He needed a new body, and as a Sharingan user, it had to be an Uchiha. But all Uchiha lived in Konoha. However there was one who was abandoned by his countrymen, someone who couldn’t be saved. Uchiha Obito. As he was dying, Madara found him and offered him a chance to live in return for his body. Madara saved Obito, and somehow inserted himself into Obito. With his new body and a chance for redemption, Madara soon rushed to retake Konoha, believing he was the strongest with the first hokage dead. He unleashed the Kyuubi, but was stopped by the fourth hokage, Namikaze Minato. In this battle Madara probably copied the fourths space-time jutsu, and later improved it. Madara was beaten once more and had to flee, but the fourth later died. However the fourth sealed the Kyuubi in the only person fit for it. His son, Uzumaki Naruto. By sealing the Kyuubi instead of defeating it, the fourth prevented Madara from retrieving the Kyuubi. Having lost two times, and without the Kyuubi, Madara had to flee again. On this journey he came across another special and abandoned boy. Nagato. Madara needed the Kyuubi back, and with the fear of losing a third time, he needed to send others instead. He formed Akutski to do this, and he manipulated and used Nagato as a second-in-command. Madara then returned to the country of fire, where Uchiha Itachi found him, not far from Konoha. Madara approached Itachi in his original form, as he feared to seem weak with only one eye. Madara agreed to end his own clan, and helped Itachi kill every member, beside Sasuke. With nearly all Sharingan users gone, Madara had no one who could rival him, beside the incredible genius Itachi.
Itachi joined Akutski as a double agent, and at some point, Madara discovered this. It was then he returned in his new form, as Tobi. Tobi, a combination of two beings, Obito and Madara. But there was another reason why Madara didn’t kill Itachi beside the fact that Itachi probably was stronger, and that was that Itachi had something which Madara still didn’t, the left MS (the offensive side, which would be Itachis right). With only his right Mangekyou Sharingan, Madara could only stop Amaterasu, see through Tsukuyomi and counter Susano’o. He was not in danger from dying to an Uchiha, but he couldn’t use the different attacks that belong to a full Mangekyou Sharingan. That’s what he needed Itachi for. But Madara couldn’t control him, and this is where Sasuke comes into the picture. With Itachi giving his life for Sasuke, and leaving behind his eyes for potential use, and with Sasuke who looks in appearance and abilities more like the original Madara than anyone else. Sasuke was the perfect choice for a new servant, but also a potential enemy.
In order to see how strong Konoha was, and in a cunning way, getting rid of the dangerous Nagato, he send pain to get the Kyuubi. With Pain dead, Konoha weakend, and Sasukes burning hatred, the last step in Madaras plan would be ready.
Madaras plan is, to let Sasuke fight Konoha, and most importently Naruto. The sharingan is the only thing that can control the Kyuubi (or so it would seem). Therefore that which is normally Narutos secret weapon, would be his greatest weakness. With Naruto dead and Konoha crushed, Madara next step would be to kill Sasuke and take his eyes, and regain his lost powers. Since both Madara and Sasuke can control the Kyuubi, they are equal on that point. Madara has (for now) seven tailed beast behind him, and Kisame. Sasuke has only team hawk. Last, Sasuke may have the ability to attack with his Mangekyou Sharingan, but Madara still has the ability to counter them. The odds are against Sasuke, and for Madara, despite the difference in strength.
With his regained power, all tailed beast and no Senju left to counter him, Madara would finally be able, to control the world, and obtain everything he had ever wanted.

But if Naruto is a senju (as I myself believe) and he has inherited the first Chakra, which could control not just the Kyuubi, but all the tailed beast, that would not only be a changing point in the battle and story, but also explain why the fourth choose his own son. It had to be a senju.
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Old 03-15-2009, 04:32 PM #3
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The truth about Uchiha Madara 3/5

About Sharingan: The sharingan has the ability to read the opponents attack. It can see through any jutsu (ninjutsu, genjutsu and taijutsu) and can even copy it. It has the ability to read the opponents movement even at extreme speed, and it would seem that it can even conserve chakra.

About Mangekyou Sharingan: It is awakend when someone close to the sharingan user dies. In Itachis case, it was his best friend. In Sasukes case, it was Oruchimaru. In Kakashis place, it is a bit hard to say, however Kakashi did state himself that everyone close to him has died. In Madara and his brothers case, we don’t know, however since they did achieve it at roughly the same time, and since they lived in a time of war, my guess would be one of their parents. The Mangekyou Sharingan seems to have 6 abilities, where 5 are known, divided over six areas. Amaterasu, Susano’o and Tsukuyomi each of these three have both defensive and offensive side. The down side of all this, is that you slowly use you eyesight; in time you will become blind, and the more you use Mangekyou Sharingan the faster you lose your sight. Another noticeable thing about the Mangekyou Sharingan powers is that each of the great three has their attack on the left, and counter/defensive on the Right. In other words, if you lose one eye, you lose half of your abilities. However it has to be noted that Itachi has the opposite eye system, with the defensive on his left and the offensive on his right.

About Amaterasu: Black flames that eat even fire itself. Nothing ordinary can stop it, but among those who can is Jiraya. The counter for Black flames is of cause the ability to extinguish them. Both Sasuke and Madara have proven to do that.

About Susano’o: The ability to focus a hole into another dimension and suck anything into it. Kakashi used it against Deidara to cut of his arm, and to stop his explosion. The counter is a special shield which seems likely to be impenetrable; Itachis used it against Sasuke to draw out Oruchimaru.

About Tsukuyomi: The ultimate illusion, it only takes seconds, but to the caster and the victim, it seems like days and hours. The counter to this is unknown; however it could the ability to break any illusion, or a counter illusion such as that Itachi used against Kurenie

About the new Mangekyou Sharingan: Grants not only immortality but also everlasting eyesight. Can only be achieved by taking your brothers (it would seem, however I find it likely it just has to be an Uchihas eyes) Mangekyou Sharingan eyes. The special thing about the design of the new Mangekyou Sharingan is that it seems to be a mixture of both sharingans.
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/r....29253/page.6/
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/r....39072/page.8/
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The truth about Uchiha Madara 4/5

I am not going to take you through my thoughts. Since this thread is long enough already, but am going to go through those “evidence”, or facts that have given birth to my theory.

1) Madara and his brother looks very, very much like Sasuke and Itachi. I don’t believe that Kishi did this without reason. There must be a connection between Sasuke and Madara, and between Itachi and Madaras brother.

2) There are several types of Mangekyou Sharingan, and if you study them, you will se that not only are they all different, they also all have a pattern, except Sasukes. Madaras new Mangekyou Sharingan is a combination of his own and his brother, Itachis, Kakashis and Madaras brother has different designs but all with a 3-form system. Sasukes is exceptional since it forms a 6-pointed star. I believe that this is a sign from Kishi that Sasuke will never take and use Itachis eyes, also because the star fills up his entire eye; it is way more dominant than all the others. Furthermore I believe there is a religious symbolic within it. For those who don’t know, the Jewish star is a 6-pointed star (the satanic symbol is a 5-pointed star). The Jews were the once behind the murder of Jesus, and there are some links between Jesus and Naruto (although they are a bit wage and some might reject it as over analyzes). However there are close links between Nagato and Jesus (Nagato calls himself a god, he sees himself as a savoir of the world, and he is sitting on a cross with his bag completing it etc.), and Oruchimaru and Lucifer (Snakes, lies and manipulations, rebirth in different forms etc.). But does that mean that Sasuke will kill Naruto, I don’t really know, I am just pointing the connections out. Another way of looking on it, is that Jesus, in a sense, led the Jews to their downfall. This would imply that Naruto brings Sasuke down, and perhaps even the Uchiha clan.

3) “The Mystery that is Tobi”, that’s how chapter 395 starts, and he is a mystery. I for one doubt very much that Tobi really is Madara. To me he seems a lot more like Obito. First of all, it has been noted before that Tobitobi spells Obito in the middle. Second of all Obito wears orange goggles and Tobis mask is, yes, orange. Kishi seems to have a way with coolers, f.eks. Naruto wears orange clothes too, and Sakura always wears pink, both in Naruto and Naruto Shippuden. Third, when Obito dies, his left face is crushed.
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/r...11796/page.15/
and when Tobi takes his mask off, to show himself to Sasuke, we only see the left side, and that side is filled with scares. And it is the crushed side that has the sharingan, which makes sense since Kakashi got his sharingan from Obitos right side.
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/r....35949/page.3/
Last, the cover of chapter 392 shows Tobi in Konoha.
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/r...chapter.33348/
Now I believe that the covers have hidden clues within them. That Tobi is I Konoha means he has some higher connection to it. He probably comes from Konoha. Now ofcause Madara has a connection to Konoha himself since he was one of the founders. But lets think about it. How much relation does Madara really have with Konoha? Beside apparently waning to crush it.

4) If Tobi truly was Madara, and not Obito, then why on earth would he use anything, than Mangekyou Sharingan? After all he would not have to fear losing his sight. Well not using it against akutski makes sense, but what about others. Plus he hides himself in a mask where it is very hard to see his eyes, which is intended since Itachi where meant to be fooled. But Kakashi sees Tobis sharingan
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/r...34962/page.17/
Now there are two noticeable things about this. First of all it is a completely normal sharingan, second of all, it is Kakashi and not any of the others that sees it. I believe that since it was Kakashi that saw it, it is Kishis way of sending us readers a sign, that Kakashi and Tobi somehow is connected. But perhaps even more importantly, what about the meeting with Sasuke?
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/r...35503/page.17/
Again there is no Mangekyou Sharingan but just the regularly sharingan. We know he has Mangekyou Sharingan since he extinguishes Amaterasu, but even when that is done he cover his eyes, probably to hide that they are back to the normal sharingan. Why would Madara do this in a situation where he is trying to make Sasuke believe he is Madara?
As I see it, it must be because Tobi is affraied of using Mangekyou Sharingan, which either means he is not Madara, or that Madara has lost the improved version of Mangekyou Sharingan.

5) This one I am not sure about, but is it just me or does Tobi seem small? And Madara rather tall?

6) When Itachi approaches Madara, we see Madara in his original form
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/r....40295/page.9/

7) Tobi must be far weaker than Itachi, and possible even Sasuke
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/r...35949/page.10/

8) Why does Nagato take orders from Madara/Tobi, if the rinnegan is supposedly so much stronger? And why would Madara send Nagato to get the Kyuubi if the sharingan can control it?

9) The sharingan is able to copy any jutsu, this means that if Tobi used his space-time jutsu, Itachi or Sasuke would just copy it right away. But that also means that there is a chance that Tobi copied it from the fourth

10) I will just let the pages speak for the self, and ask you to notice the sharingan types, abilities ( defensive / offensive ), and what side they are used on.
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/r....11829/page.5/

http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/r....66377/page.1/

http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/r....66377/page.6/

http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/r....66377/page.7/

http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/r....35949/page.3/

11) Why bother showing us how Kakashi got his sharingan? Don’t get me wrong, I like the story, but I am just asking why Kishi wanted to tell us that, when everything else regarding Kakashi is left out. What about Rin? What about the relationship between Kakashi and the fourth? And why not just note in the manga that Kakashi got the sharingan from a dying friend, instead of making several chapters about it? The story of how Kakashi got his sharingan is just as much about him, as it is about Obitio, infarct I will go so far as to say that Obito is the main character in that part of the story.

12) Taking others bodies… Oruchimaru did it. But in a sense, so did Kabuto. By infusing his body with some of Oruchimarus charka, he made it possible for Oruchimaru to return.
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/r...11908/page.17/
Wouldn’t this be possible for Madara too, if he had a body to use?
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Old 03-15-2009, 04:33 PM #5
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The truth about Uchiha Madara 5/5

I hope you all can forgive me for making this 1-5 long thread. But I thought it was time to make a serious thread about the subject instead of those countless small once. And if you and wandering how much you just read, it is 2847 words. Thanks you for lending me your time.

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Anonymous said...

hail to number 18!!!! COZ I DON'T READ IT AT ALL !!! LOL

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Thunderbolt said...

2 yrs of anime and it will b at the stage where manga is currently

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Anonymous said...

SHIT!!! YOU EVEN COUNT THE WORDS!!!!!!!!

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Anonymous said...

21 no im sure he used a program like microsoft word or something like that to count the words

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Anonymous said...

Useles fuckers

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kshgs said...

Nice...too bad the links don't work...

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Thunderbolt said...

anime fillers are of 20 epi, longest filler i saw in shippuden :O

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Anonymous said...

#18 u r like sasugay u know everything and nothing at same time.man tobi=madara but tobi!=obito.i think fourths spacetime jutsu was sort of self summoning jutsu.and madara's jutsu is based on another dimension thing.
and the condition for MS to kill/death of closest friend to uchiha is to take his eyes and there is no other emotional crap in this.
sasugay got MS from itachi not because of oro's death. itachi transferred it to him while dying.
madara choose sasugay because he is like him. he too have ridiculous amount of chakra.
and last thing don't make ur post's so damn long

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Anonymous said...

@ oxsas: how can you possibly think that Tobi is not madara... even kisame who knew him pretty welll states that tobi is madara.
to me it doenst seem like every uchiha gets the same abilities when they acquire the ms. for example kakashi never ever used an amaterasu before but has the ability to teleport things into other dimensions which none of the other uchiha could ever do. i think it has something to do with the family. itachi and sasuke both use amaterasu and tsukoyomi. another thing i thought about is: does kakashi already have an everlasting ms. the eye he uses is not his own!! like madara doenst use his own eyes and tehrefore wont lose his eyesight. kakashi just doesnt have the chakra to draw out the full power the sharingan could provide to him. btw his sharingan is on the left side not on the right as oxsas implied. i also thought about madara in need of a new body (cause his own got to old and screwed up) so he eventually took obitos coprse and somehow tranferred is soul into his body like orochimaru does.

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Anonymous said...

@18
for so much effort....u need to know ur basics man

MS has 3 abilities only....1 left 1 right and 1 combo of both

and Sasuke gained his MS when Itachi died....who gives a shit about Orochimaru....

Sasuno is not the dimensional techinique.......and Kakashi never used it...It's Itachi's ultimate tech.
and loads of other mistakes...

in short ur a NOOB.......fo

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Anonymous said...

and by the way why would madara need to use his ms? till now tehre wasnt even a single person capable of fighting him. madara shurely wouldnt think in the way that he cant lose his eyesight and tehrefore blast everything to ashes just cause he thinks its fun... thats just not his way of thinking... he was hiding himself while controlling the 9-tailed and he surely would have been capable of killing the 4th with his own hands but that just wasnt what he wanted. why do most of the people think that when u have enormous strenght you have to walk around showing it to everyone... wouldnt it be far smarter to just stay in the background pulling the strings and when there is no one left to fight for you THEN yu unleash your own unstoppable power. u know jiraiya wasnt walking around in sagemode all the time because he wanted to have an ace up his sleeve... the same is for madara! he doesnt need to fight as long as tehre is no one capable of threatening him. and by the way he surely has a pretty nice defensiveshield with akatsuki!

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Anonymous said...

#27,28,29
damn right your are!

#18 do your research (or just read the manga carefully) before you post a noval of bs!

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Anonymous said...

novel it is

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5th Hokage said...

Well, this will be a drag for some time but it is crucial for the story. I felt so sad because of those three and how war can destroy everything what you ever know.

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Anonymous said...

is it just me or does it seem like nagato is saying that his second pain isn't the death of yahiko but the death of a dog???? Hey i love dogs mine just recently died, it was very sad but it didn't make me want to create some doomsday weapon, take over the world, and declare myself a god. I hope that isn't nagato's second "pain" it would just be such a lame excuse for the devastation he's caused. Frankly orochimaru's reasons of just being evil, power hungry, egotistical and afraid of death were better.

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Anonymous said...

33 its wrong to think that the puppy is his 2nd source of pain. If you have read the chapter carefuly then it is clear that he found himself a good friend (Yahiko). Their goal became the same and when Yahiko died he lost the person who he can share his dreams with.

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Anonymous said...

Pain will live and join naruto...then sasuke will fight pain..sharingan vs rinnegan...that will be interesting..hehehe

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*Red* said...

Interesting chapter, but I do think this story arc is getting a bit too long. I think Negato's second pain, the "greatest", is probably the death of his friend Yahiko. Since they were so close, had the same dream. And why would Negato help Yahiko achieve his dream-(even if he is dead), by making him "God", if he didn't really care about him? I think Yahiko's death must have had a dastic effect on Negato.

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Anonymous said...

the 2nd pain is yahiko death that's clear..nagato will fight sasuke...rinnegan vs sharingan..

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MusTy said...

As far as i know only Kakashi has the ability to copy jutsus with sharingan.. Thats why he is Copy Ninja Kakashi..

Quote from Narutopedia

The Mangekyo Sharingan gives a user access to powerful and forbidden techniques. It is unclear if these techniques are unique among individuals; no two Mangekyo Sharingan users have been seen using the same jutsu, but Madara appears knowledgeable of all Mangekyo Sharingan techniques. The only known exception to this is Amaterasu, which Itachi implants in Sasuke's eyes before dying.

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Anonymous said...

guys come to thinks of it, there is no one left to train naruto now. The only person i can think of training naruto is nagato, altho naruto went toe to toe with him, but naruto will have respect for him and his power since naruto seen it all with his eye. I really wanna see sunaday training naruto and teaching him her ultimate technic thats she has one. or give the secret scroll to naruto and he can train by him self.

what do you guys thinks. please leave your comments on naruto's further training and to improve him skill and experience. z.k

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Anonymous said...

is naruto shippuuden movie 3 coming out soon. Now the movie 5 is out, that means we can have naruto shippuuden movie 1 in english dubb.

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Anonymous said...

naruto is infamously known to not kill his opponents... so, the only likely scenario to play out is negato's inevitable death due to his significantly shortened lifespan... referring to konan's comments about using "too much"

negato will come to understand naruto and will trust his answer. and then shortly after will pass away.

i believe konan however may end up joining konoha (which seems like a less awkward scenario, than negato, who probably killed 30% of the village)

maybe even danzo will get off his ass shortly and kill negato... who knows? they gave us so many different variables to think of.. haha

also lets not forget the newly-indroduced squad sent out in retalliation to killerbee's "assassination" ...not to mention killerbee himself

i'm thinking killerbee will contact naruto (i also would find it comical naruto training with a big black dude who raps all the time) and teach him about controlling their beast

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NICK said...

Guys I'm confuse so uchiha about the clan are they suppose to be one big one family because if I'm thinking this right all of them suppose to be brothers and sisters or cousins see my point if I'm wrong correct me later

Much love everyone

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-D said...

@MusTy/38
Sasuke can also copy others jutsu. So I think that this is about the ability to make use of Sharingan. E.g. Kakashi doesn't use genjutsu but only one time, but both Itachi and Sasuke do use much genjutsu.

Anyway, why did you brought this topic?
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-D said...

@41
That's what I has said many times. It's no reason for Naruto to lose his "innocent". If he's going to change the ninja world and bring the peace. Remember that the hatred is cause of the murders, such as Sasuke and Nagato, so it would be good that Naruto never kills anyone, so nobody would hate him. if you understand me.

About Konan and Nagato. I believe that nagato dies by exhaustion and Konan gets away. Or it's also possibly that Team Gai kills them.
-D

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Well, there will be one or two chapters more about Nagato's past. He will explain about the events after the Jiraiya training. if you remember, Jiraiya mentioned that he heard about the Ame orphans intervene in some business and cause deaths.
I'm glad to hear about his past, so I can understand his "pain". Tiny/Chibi is only a "clause" of his story ;)

I'm look forward to Naruto's answer, which would change his life and maybe even the Ninja world. Also kakashi- I'm sure that he's still alive... (I believe that he would be the next Hokage, if Danzo fails his coup)

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The Sage of SiXxX Paths said...

Konoha Hokage should grant Naruto unlimited access to the scroll of forbidden seal so he can continue his training, with his kage bushing skills he can learn this skills in no time.
Kage Bushing no-jutsu was the first technique in the Scroll of the forbidden seal. Maybe 4Th Hokage space time jutsu is written there also, or greater jutsus. this will help naruto create his Jutsu Masterpiece like susano is for MS users.

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-D said...

It occurred to me that Nagato is willing to tell Naruto about his past, but he wouldn't tell any to Jiraiya, his sensei. Do you not think that it's strange? Maybe Nagato tries to win time to something?
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Anonymous said...

The Sage of SiXxX Paths said...

-D Nagato is hesitating; he realizes naruto has a different answer to his dream.

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daboem said...

i don't want to turn this threat into a debate
#18 man i've read it ...do you know how easy is to counter all that theory. infact you made me more believe that tobi IS NOT obito
i'm not gonna counter it tho..
i've already post several prooves and when i counter yours its just gonna be a waste of time...and if i counter, its gonna take a lot of space and as you can see, people here dont like to reading much..

tobi=obtio :disaproval face: maybe its better for you to reread the whole manga in detail

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Anonymous said...

i think 46 is onto something most of the forbidden jutsus that have been mentioned are forbidden because they use so much chakra that they are dangerous for the user but between his own huge chakra reserves the qb chakra and natural energy naruto has essentialy limitless chakra. there would be no reason to prevent naruto from using the scroll with the forbidden jutsus on it. Why would thhey have bothered to keep the scroll at all unless they were saving it for a ninja with enough chakra to be able to use it

also in reference to there being no one besides killer bee left to train him when kakashi and yamato "trained" him for his ultimate technique neither one of them had learned it themselves they were really just spouting theory no one knew for sure if the move was even possible even minato couldn't do it
if naruto has already shown the ability to take theoretical jutsus and make them a reality who knows where the next crazy technique could come from
i wonder what a genius like shikamaru could dream up

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Anonymous said...

I have read about tobi=madara or madara is not obito, i have came a coclusion,, what if madara resurrected in obito, and of course obito didn't remember he is madara because in real life, it is suposed that we don't remember who we were in our past lifes,,,, so something happened to obito when he got his half face crushed that he remembered that he was madara. what do you guys think?

~~BONE

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Anonymous said...

and also someone said that tobi/madara were not using mangekyo sharingan if he is suposed to be eternal, maybe because he is madara who was reborn in obito, thats why he doesn't have eternal mangekyo sharingan any more.

~~BONE

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Anonymous said...

I liked this chapter (thought I'm not a talking-flashback person). Kishi really made a good job on this one, it was fast, giving all the information. In one chapter, he told their lifes until meeting the Sannin. I hope the flashbacks will end soon... I want to see about the other people (killer Bee, Tsunade, Danzo, Kakashi (maybe's not dead...))
I agree with 41. Naruto killing Pain would be too OOC. My guess is he will die of exhaustion.
About Konan... I'm not really sure. If Nagato dies, then I think it will very depressing for her, loosing both of her friends.
So this is my guess:
Konan will give herself to Konoha, and they will see what will do with her.
But her running away is also an option, because Naruto's not going to kill her (I'm sure!)

So what do you think?

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Anonymous said...

I have given my explanation on the Madara-Obito theory many times, but ill put it down again for those who haven't seen it.

Madara CANNOT be Obito. Obito died when he was like 13 or something. The body cannot develop or age once it is dead. Age is the result of the passing of time on a LIVING being. Because Obito died at 13, his body would still be that of a 13year old. Not only is this biologically true, but it's seen in the Orochimaru fight against Sarutobi the 3rd. When Oro summoned the 1st and 2nd Hokages, they had not aged, they were the same beings as they were at the time of their death.

In the past i've mentioned the possibility of the 8tails teaching Naruto. It makes sense because they are both jinchuuiki's and they have a common goal against Akatsuki. Because the 8tails host has complete control over its beast, and also a good relationship, i think his advice and tutelage would be valuable for Naruto to learn, since he hasn't tamed the kyuubi yet. this is just a thought.

To reiterate again, I still believe that...
1) Danzou overthrow will take place
2) Pein will die from chakra exhaustion and over exertion. Naruto will not kill him
3) Konan will switch to Konoha's side
4) Kakashi is alive

~ Swordfish

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Anonymous said...

obito is dead kakashi goes to his grave every day. he was buried under all those rocks during the battle but between all the power of kakashi and minato you don't think that they dug him back up minato had already killed all the other shinobi there was no longer any danger besides tobi as madara is a much better story line than tobi is obito

the story about obito was told to better understand kakashi nothing more

tobi was controlling the qb when it attacked konoha at the time obito if he was alive would have still been a kid who had just recently awakened his sharingan and then promptly lost an eye and been smashed by a boulder

the only way it could work would be if medara took over his body the way that orochimaru does but why would madara take a one eyed unskilled half squashed uchiha when the whole clan was still around. plus even if madara did take over obito's body ala orochimaru it still means OBITO IS DEAD

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Anonymous said...

ok i madarag stills obitos body or saves obitos body why not tacke and new or older body when he go out to kill all uchiha clan members lol if there were so many saringan there why not take them and save up on aye s and switch them when need be ...............
lol just listen to this what if tobi is sasukes father since he did start the whole thing with the clans revolt in the village and i know this is not the possible thing to happen i realy would like to hear a theorey on the clan killing thick of something ...smart
sorry for the bad spelling of names and word s but what can you do lol

DEMON_4_EVER

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Anonymous said...

THINK NOT THICK
LOL

DEMON_4_EVER

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XxXxXBeastXxXxX said...

Whoa that would be an unexpected turn #39.Even thought it sounds dumb and probaly won't happen that would be soomething.And u know kishi likes surprising us.I wonder what nagato will teach naruto lol

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Anonymous said...

to #18 i don't agree with your hypothesis and have said why earlier but i feel a little bad for you what with all the complaints about your ideas
your post may have been a little long but at least i could tell that you had actually put some thought and time into it unlike some posts that are often usless one liners about who got here first or something else trivial
if people find that it is too long to read then they can skip it no one is forcing us to be here.
Posts like yours while i don;t agree with it are the ones that start interesting conversations and are the reasons i think most of us show up here in the first place

thank you but i still say OBITO IS DEAD

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dragon-lord1 said...

#12 we already know who killed hanzou,it was nagato aka pain,he stormed into hanzous castle byhimselv and defeated hanzou,he olso fought and defeated the entire army of amegakure single handedly!

#18 u either didnt write that post,or just copied it from another site,read the lowest part in ur post and u will understand why im saying this!

#33 read the title of the next chapter,(the greatest pain),that means there is asecond pain and its even bigger than the first,obviously the dog was just extra pain,and made him realize his similar dream to yahikos!

#35 and #37 thats very stupid!,sasuke vs nagato not happening!

#38 sasuke can olso copy jutsus,remember he copied lees jutsu in the chunin exams arc,and he olso copied his moves!

#39 nagato training naruto is very very unlikely!

#41 im sure killer bee has nothing to do with narutos training,even though killerbee is somehow able to control his beast,naruto is stronger than him,so it would be uncool to see him trained hy him,and olso kyubi is not like the bull,infact he is different from all the other bijuus,he is very smart and very very evil,its going to take something entirely differen to control him!

#42 nick,they are not all related,a clan doesnt have to mean thy are all related like a family,a clan can is when a group of people originally come from the same place and a group of those people could be called a clan,not every clan has kekkei genkais,but those who do like the uchiha,they might have the same traits because they originally come from the same place,either long ago the first uchiha was born because of uniqe curcumstances,and his airs had the same traits all the way for thousands of years!,that doesnt make them
family!

#51 and #52 madara born inside obito,its a possibility in a list of endless possibilities,buts its a very improbable possibility!,in my opinion its never gonna happen!

#54 swordfish,its not PEIN,its PAIN for godsakes!

sigh.... sigh....,i dont what to tell u guys,except that u can do better!!,or maybe u cant i dont know,never mind,i will doing what i can to keep this thread intersting,and so should u!

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dragon-lord1 said...

man i have so many bad spelling because of the freakin keyboard!

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Anonymous said...

pain will not die form exhaustion nor from naruto
its more likely he's gonna die by tobi after confronting him where we see the tobi ( madara's true power )
sharingan vs riningan

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Ichiraku said...

Saturday, 25 April 0:52:49 a.m. (GMT + 1:00)

Greetings,

As you can see I’m using (GMT + 1:00 , British summer time) in my comments. As I’m in Spain, you only have to add one hour to get the real time I’m writing. Is not an optimal solution, but if it works.

No much for comment of this chapter. It confirmed the effect of Nagato’s rage. The rinnegan is so powerful that he is not conscious. It’s a similar effect as Naruto possessed by the Kiuby mode. It’s the second time we see this in the manga. What a terrible secret does the rinnegan hide?

The second pain of Nagato may be related with the war against Amegakure. I suppose this is in the mind of all us. Nagato did a terrible revenge against Hanzou. Yahiko’s dead and Nagato’s damages could explain this. But I had a devious idea. Nagato uncontrolled by the rinnegan killed Yahiko accidentally in the middle of the battle. Just the same thing Naruto can do some day if he doesn’t control the Kiuby power. You know Kishimoto likes this kind of symbolism, hehehe.

By the way, Naruto must be asking himself who is Yahiko. We know who is, but nobody said Naruto that Deva Pain and Yahiko are the same. There is a great difference between what the reader knows and what the different characters know.

I read some Masashi comments in the spoiler blog (I did it just after the manga appeared). I found an unnoticed detail in Masashi comments. He included Hinata as part of Naruto’s loved ones. What this mean? It seems to confirm Naruto feels something for Hinata too. Maybe. But if they are not careful with their secret, Hinata will be in danger in the future. I’m sorry. You know Hinata is my favourite girl character of the manga, so I can’t avoid say something about her from time to time ;)

Some of you mentioned before. Where is Shino? He has the perfect counter-attack against Konan jutsus, and the last time we saw him he was fighting against her.

I though my post were long extension ones, but if you review this forum…Hahaha. I wished to have some talk with you, but it’s late and I’m tired. I’m going to sleep now. I’ll try to connect a little more time on Sunday at night.

Nice to “read” you

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Anonymous said...

To #18
After reading your long and thoughtful reply, I have to agree with you on some things; your evidence makes me have second thoughts. However, there are some mistakes I'd like to point out. I bet tons of people have already said something about these mistakes, but I'm just going to post them anyway.

First, Sasuke got his eyes because Itachi died, not Orochimaru. Why didn’t Sasuke use Mangekyo Sharingan against the fight with Itachi? He only obtained them afterwards.

Second, Susano’o is not the ability to suck something into another dimension. It is solely the thing that Itachi uses to protect himself against Sasuke’s Kirin. It still does have an offensive side; the sword of Totsuka, which has an incredible sealing ability. The ability Kakashi has is called the Kamui (sucks anything into a different dimension).

Third, please make sure the links you post are able to actually be used. I would like to see all that evidence you point out and remind myself of all the events in Naruto that I might've forgotten.

Anyways, I know this is a little late, but has anyone noticed how in Chapter 442 when Naruto says to Pain "You give up--thinking I'm gonna give up!" (page 16-17) that it runs parallel to what the main character in Jiraiya's book (The Legend of the Gusty Ninja) says, which is "You should give up--trying to make me give up!" (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/416/04/)? If Naruto said this purposely, it was to remind himself of Master Jiraiya and to pay homage to his former teacher. It would only fit to have Pain get owned like the main character in Jiraiya's book. If Naruto said this subconsciously, then this just shows that Naruto is growing up to be a true Gutsy Ninja, and branches out on Kishi's idea that the strongest ninja are those who never give up, proving that Naruto is like that.

I dunno what ya'll think, but I just found this interesting.

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Anonymous said...

This is 64 again:
If the manga is taking this long to progress, think about how slow the anime would be when it reaches this point in the manga (assuming the anime even reaches to this point before we die).

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dragon-lord1 said...

#64 not just in the ninja world,but in anything a mans true powers are measured by his limits,almost everyone have limits to where they give up and surrender to the greater power,and their powers could be measured by their insistence to overcome the obstacles standing in their way despite of all struggle!!,the power to never give up,that trait is the only thing i share with naruto!!

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dragon-lord1 said...

#65 i have calculated the anime and the manga,and an epsode of the anime covers about 1,68 manga,so if they start following the manga as it is asumed starting 14 may,60 anime episodes till it reaches the point the manga is on now!!,ofcourse that is if they dont start with the fillers again!!

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dragon-lord1 said...

and 60 anime episodes would take about 60 weeks so a year and two months till the anme reaches chapter 444!!

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Anonymous said...

man this arc is getting boring

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Anonymous said...

i watch the anime and I say, f**k what a boring chapter, i will beter read the last chapter of the manga, f******k is the same lvl of boriness, what is happening here, i think i will start watching dragon ball kai, lol is more interesting than this boring chapters of naruto.

They should put an interesting arc in the anime while the manga s**ks, or viceversa.

And also i think this place is getting boring too, not because of the people, but because of the boring manga and anime.

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Anonymous said...

I think that the byakugan was the first of the eye techs but what happened is that during the long time past a demon possessed some one and breed into the ancient clan ( not necessarily the huga at that time)and by that happening the renningan was formed. I think that the same thing happened later and created the sharingan, although i think that the demon was a crow demon considering that the curse seal allowed saskue to become more bird like. I think that Madara made a deal with the kyobi a long time before the attack on konoha to share come of its power so that he could defeat the first but it back fired. (notice that the fourth told said that he sealed HALF of the kyobi's chakra in naruto) i think that the sharingan's tie to the kyobi has to do with that deal and that madara ultimately wants all the tailed beasts so that he can use their chakra to awaken the crow demon within himself but saske is the key, i think that there has to be an unknown number of ms techs united to allow for an all encompassing eye that will be key to some uber forbiden tech that will resurrect the crow demon in madara. i think that madara is manipulating saske as to use him as the "vessel" for the ultimate eye if any of this makes sense. i also think that if naruto had kids with hinata while still being "one" with the kyobi that their kids might exhibit a new eye form that would place the senju on an even higher footing than the uchiha and madara wants that power before that happens so thats why saske is the perfect tool to be used to retrieve the kyobi's chakara because naruto wouldnt kill him and saske would be able to retrieve it easily but he is still waiting for something otherwise he would have already have sent saske or went himself rather than sending pein to his death.

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Anonymous said...

#71 wtf with this crow theory man just cut it out.
guys stop that tobi=obito crap.
reincarnation of madara as obito ......my ass. wtf are u talking oro could transfer his soul in another body due to that white snake thing i don't think anyone other could do it.
one more thing will naruto change his name to Namikaze Naruto as now he know's he is fourth's son.

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NICK said...

thank dragon lord

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Anonymous said...

#73 i will share my knowledge on this.
this theory suggest that madara was first with sharingan but as per my knowledge he is not as told by madara himself to sasugay he says something like "then i was born with chakra they had never seen before" this proves he isn't first sharingan user.
i know sharingan is evolved version of byakugan.
itachi said there are three uchiha's(not guys with sharingan so except kakashi) left and thats for Madara,Itachi and sasugay.there is no one else not even dead obito.
and please enlight me with this madara's father story .tell me is there any reference to this in manga

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Anonymous said...

sorry #74 is for #72

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Anonymous said...

#71
also i think uchiha's are not born with Sharingan they have to activate it later and that goes for first sharingan user too even if u say it's madara

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doom said...

next 2 chapter will be pain's story
which 1 is strong right now naruto or sasuke

i am naruto fan but i think sasuke is strong

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doom said...

naruto got a lot of chakra & got 3 jutsu (Rasengan,oodama Rasengan)
both r close range jutsu he cant hit sasuke with that he got sharingan can read the movement and counter it and also fast step jutsu (shunshin jutsu)and fire jutsu with these both sharingan & shunshin jutsu he will easly able to counter rasen shurken then he got 5 meter long chakra manipulation & chakra sword then there is sharingan jutsu a bit more powerful

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Anonymous said...

The Sage of SiXxX Paths said...

Naruto:
why Mr. Kishi wanted us to see Sage mode if is almost useless, I believed Naruto Chakra will merge with Kyubi and will become one entity this will allow Naruto to draw limitless amount of natural energy and prolong his sage mode, also this will counter the Sharigan abilities to control the fox.

Akatsuki:
I can see new member emerging and Madara will take the leadership.

Madara:
just another puppet, there is someone bigger than him.

Sakura:
In love and war all is fair.

Kakashi:
Kakashi will raise from the dead and emerge as a Kage level Shinobi.

Nagato:
Madara will end his life.

this Manga:
Will not end soon, many things to come, and naruto have yet to grow up just like his father did to become a hokage. he is not ready for the job yet. power is not everything.

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Anonymous said...

446 prediction ? shd be meeting up with Oro , Tsunade and Jiraya of course .

Fast Forward after Jiraya leaves them . Yahiko likely to have recruited more ppl to his cause / dream .

Fast Forward some more , standoff between Yahiko's forces and Hanzo's forces at the exact place when
Hanzo stood before Tsunade , Oro and Jiraya many years before .

THE FIGHT BEGINS .

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Anonymous said...

Does any one know what happened to RIN kakashi's team mate in his early years... she just disappeared...

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Anonymous said...

was this the last appearance of RIN
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/244/17/

what happen to her after that?

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Thunderbolt said...

@78
i disagree sasuke stand no chance.

1. sage+kyubi chakra = MS genjutsu fails
2. sage = sasuke chakra rod useless
3. rasen shuriken longe range and short range tech
4. naruto cant do sage more than 15 min cnsidering clones too and sasuke too can't use MS for too long
5. naruto is most unexpectable ninja having more chakra than sasuke.

No way sasuke is in naruto's league at present coz he doesn't hve cursed seal anymore :P

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Anonymous said...

#83 i agree with you.
i even think naruto was never weaker than sasugay .he is a jinchuriki and also without QB he is hell of strong.he lost with sasugay at valley of end because he wasn't fighting to kill him but sasugay was and later naruto changed his mind.and one more thing sasugay said he won't be able to put a scar on forehead protector so at that time he just did that only.

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Anonymous said...

i mean sausay changed his mind not to kill naruto because that would be as his brother told him to do to achive MS

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Anonymous said...

1st - stop calling sasuke 'sasugay'!! the fact is that he is very hurt from the bottom of his heart!! i doubt that any of you that says that, has lost any beloved person, but losing everyone, and this by your own brother!!! besides naruto is a serious anime (and manga) not a 'xxx' film
2nd - in the manga there is sth mentioned that ninjas dedicate their world to someone with the eyes of the rinnegan (i think kakashi said that) so things like the ability of ino neji ect come from that eye. I think that the three eyes (byukugan, rinnagan, sharingan) are conected somehow. my guess is byukugan comes from rinnegan but i cant define the sharingan. maybe it has nothing to do with the two others
3rd - 'Never give up' no matter the obstacles , no matter what happens is the best thing of naruto (this is the bond we have formed with naruto)
sorry it took so long }rgd{

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Anonymous said...

In my opinion, Naruto isn't strong enough to beat Sasuke YET. In terms of raw power and chakra quantity, Naruto has the upper hand, but fights aren't solely determined by strength. I don't think Naruto is able to stand up to the sharingan yet.

1) Naruto can't counter genjutsu yet. In order to do so, he will have to discover Itachi's gift (which we don't know yet) or learn to tame the kyuubi. As the 8tails said, any jinchuuriki can use its beast as a second chakra source to disrupt the chakra flow and break genjutsu.
As seen here: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/413/15/
2) Sasuke has more jutsus and more elemental control. He's got a lot of fire techniques and can do chidori/chidori current thru his sword. Naruto's wind-rasengan is very strong, but it's his only elemental technique.
3) Amaterasu is a problem too
4) Sasuke's sharingan is technically stronger than Itachi's tsukuyomi. During their fight, Sasuke overcame it, so i dont know how naruto can handle such powerful eyes. explained here :
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/388/14/
5) Sasuke's speed is much faster than Naruto's.
6) I also just think Sasuke is strategically smarter and more intuitive. He plans out his attacks much more efficiently.

Naruto has some advantages as well:
1) Sage mode and Kyuubi both offer him nearly unlimited chakra supply
2) Infinite kage bunshins
3) Wind element is stronger than lightning, so the rasenshuriken would beat chidori
4) Naruto is physically stronger, capable of killing 1 Pain body with a single punch.

However, taking everything into consideration, Sasuke has the upper hand right now. No doubt tho that Naruto will surpass Sasuke in the future.

~ Swordfish

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dragon-lord1 said...

guys heres the low quality english hardsub of the naruto shippuuden movie bonds

http://www.mininova.org/tor/2524092

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dragon-lord1 said...

guys heres the low quality english hardsub of the naruto shippuuden movie bonds

video quality 7/10
audio quality 7/10

http://www.mininova.org/tor/2524092

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dragon-lord1 said...

sorry didnt know it was already posted!

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Anonymous said...

good chapter

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Anonymous said...

Never Give Up!!!!!!!!!!!!!NARUTO'S A BEAST

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dragon-lord1 said...

ok guys here are some intersting things

first

kakashi stole his sharingan eye from obito and he olso watched his best friend die,so he has done everything that is needed to obtain eternal mangekyou sharingan!!,does that mean he has eternal sharingan?,i think even though his not an uchiha,he has eternal mangekyou sharingan,what do u think guys?

second

in the manga yahiko is supposed to have died when nagato and konan were quite young,around the age when they met jiraya,but one of the six bodys of nagato as we know is yahiko aka god realm,but the thing is god realm aka yahiko is not young and little,his quite mature and tall,his almost the same age nagato and konan are now!,so does that mean kishi hasnt thought about that,and its a flaw,or does it mean that yahiko died just a few years ago when they were old?!

third

a genjutsu is supposed to be dispelled by by some kind of genjutsu dispelling jutsu,but in some cases that might not work,and in those special cases the only way to dispell the genjutsu is if u are fighting two on one,if one is cought,the other one will attack from behind or poor his chakra into u,disrupting the chakra flow in ur body,therefor disrupting the genjutsu,this dispelling strategy olso works for hosts that can control their bijuus,killerbee used this,when he was cought in a genjutsu by sasuke,the beast inside him poored his chakra into killerbee and disrupted his chakra flow,therefor disrupted the genjutsu,only there is one problem,the genjutsu that was used by sasuke was TSUKUYOMI,here is the problem,according to kakashi here the tsukuyomi cannot be dispelled by that strategy either,according to kakashi even if its two on one,and another person poors his chakra into u,the tsukuyomi cant be dispelled!!,so killer be shoul not have been able to disrupt tsukuyomi!!,here look for urselvs

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/257/07/

i see it as another mistake from kishi,i know some of u think its impossible for kishi to make mistakes,so u come up with useless excuses!!,but in this case only hard evidence is accepted!!

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Anonymous said...

it’s actually very interesting reading everyone’s view of the manga.
a few things i've noticed about the characters, those who use forbidden techs, utilize the negativities thru hardships and are driven by vengeance ultimately meet their demise. It’s not like Pain, as a child, before meeting Konan & Yahiko, had aspirations of being "evil" or killing tons of people he simply let the negativities of a war-torn country lead him to the where he is now.
Naruto had a difficult childhood as well and loss friends and mentors but time and time again it’s his willingness to draw any positive from the situations that has gotten him to his current level.
Numerous characters reference how he compels them to better themselves and their situations.
Like Shikamaru said "he makes you want to walk with him"
I’m not going to try to predict what’s next in the story, there are endless possibilities.
One thing I can bet on though is that whatever Naruto's "answer" is, it’s not what a typical, or elite ninja would do.
Naruto has an unorthodox way of fighting and overcoming adversity, combined with his will to never give up; he's going to change the ninja world thru his influence on others to believe in themselves; to believe in change.

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Anonymous said...

Maybe the Rinnegan is like the FORCE in Star Wars , having the Good & Dark Side .

The Dark Side offers more power but ultimately the Evil consumes the spirit of the owner.

Perhaps Nagato gave into the Dark Side & turned out to be the way he is ?

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Anonymous said...

Guys does any one know what happened to RIN kakashi's team mate in his early years... she just disappeared...
was this the last appearance of RIN
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/244/17/

what happen to her after that??

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Anonymous said...

To #82
Rin has since passed . Kakashi has them in his thoughts as he lies dying.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/425/02/

To #93
I think "stole his sharingan eye from obito" isn't the right word to use . Obito clearly wanted Kakashi to have his eye and Rin transplanted the eye to Kakashi. It was more like a present .

Whether Kakashi has the "Eternal MS" remains to be seen bcoz the theory of the Eternal MS which is meant to be awakened by the killing / death of a closed one is meant for one already with the Sharingan eye awakened . Obito awakened his Sharingan but Kakashi at that time was only a recepient.

Just my $0.02 worth.

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Anonymous said...

I think she died

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Anonymous said...

nvm

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dragon-lord1 said...

98 it will be cleared up in the future chapters!

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Anonymous said...

Rin has passed . See Post 99. Like 102 said , how she passed may be presented as a flashback someday.

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Anonymous said...

Dragon lord kakashi dident steal the sharingan from obito

Obito gave it to him before he dies i will be your eye he said before he dies!!!!

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dragon-lord1 said...

99 and 104,if u were here,i would be screaming in ur ears,DONT U THINK I KNOW THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,my english isnt so good and i was in a hurry so i tried to say it one word,bad choice i know!,i figured u guys would understand what i meant,but apparently NOT!!,comon guys is that the best u can do?,dont u think the other two texts are intersting?,and try to come up with answer to those three questions,not comment about some mistake i maid in the text,I KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT NARUTO AND MORE,if u read the second and third text,its very complicated stuff,so if i know that,dont u think i know about rin toooooooooooooooo???????????????????????

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dragon-lord1 said...

i may have been too harsh,but i have bad temper,sorry about that!!

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Anonymous said...

dragon-lord, maybe when killer bee was in tsukoyomi the eight tails could disperse the chakra because they share the same body, maybe the eight tails saw the illusion, and that is why he could disperse the illusion made in killer bee,,,,
maybe kakashi said that the illusion couldn't be dispersed because it happens in 1 second, so no one know that you are under tsukoyomi, but because killerbee and eight tails share the same body, eight tails detected the genjutsu because killer bee couldn't move,, what do you think?

~~BONE

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Anonymous said...

105 , if it was a hurried text , just let us know in a tone which doesn't sound bad to the rest of us .

Not everyone is capable of answering all your and others questions here at the same time . Some are perhaps easier than others so ppl here pick up and correct it if
it is so .

That is the main purpose of a forum for ppl , to discuss , share and debate opinions and facts .

If you say it is was hurried , then let it be so and move on . I am quite sure there will be some folks here who will pick on and share their views on your other 2 questions .

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Anonymous said...

this is for daboem, I finally got a computer, remember you said that frog eyes and the dark in his eyes in sage mode are an imperfection, and that naruto had to be normal without any frog mark to be in perfect sage mode? i said it his eyes are a characteristic because of this.

in this page......http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/05
pa frog says this "Yes! the dark pigmentation's th' sign of a true sage. He did it!" so that means that he has to have that dark pigmentation to be in sage mode, if he doesn't have that dark pigmentation then he is not in sage mode.

in this page...... http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/05
(the same page, in the same square)
pa frog says this: "There ain't a single bit of frog transformation, neither! maybe naruto-chan's a sage to eclipse even jiraya-chan!" and in this page.....http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/04

you can see how naruto has his eyes opened, so if pa frog said that and he was watching his eyes, that means that pa frog saw the frog eyes as a characteristic of sage mode, not an imperfection so that means those eyes are a characteristic of sage mode, so naruto is in a perfect sage mode.

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Anonymous said...

i'm 109,,, forgot to put my nickname

~~BONE

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Rafa Federer said...

The theories made by comment #18 are as funny as all rip!

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dragon-lord1 said...

107 BAD TO THE BONE.LOL,i think ur very smart,and i like ur idear,and that is the only excuse that would make sense,however ive thought about it before and the way kakashi said itthat may not be the case,he says if it was a normal sharingan it could be dispelled by pooring chakra into ur body,but this tsukuyomi work differently,its one of mangekyou sharingans powers!!,UR THEORY IS PERFECT!!,BUT IM ALMOST SURE IT HASNT CROSSED KISHIS MIND,AND KISHI HAS MADE A EARNEST MISTAKE!!,ITS BEEN A WHILE SINCE SOMEONE HAS ACTUALLY IMPRESSED ME!!ANYWAY WHAT DO U THINK ABOUT THE OTHER ONE ABOUT YAHIKO??

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dragon-lord1 said...

109 i have given it alot of thought before,and I AGREE WITH U!!

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dragon-lord1 said...

108 there was some mistake on my part and some on urs,maybe i have overestimated the power of ur comprehention!,and on ur part,u should read all the text,before u judge someone or make accusations!,though i already said im sorry that i have a bad temper,but apparently u didnt read to that either!!

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Anonymous said...

Hi 108 again . ok i read the original post & this is my take .

Regarding Yahiko - yes it is clear that he was incorporated into a path around his adult age .

There was also mention by Jiraya that he had heard that
Nagato / Yahiko and Konan had died but alas he did exactly mention when he heard the rumours.

The word "God" was given to him bcoz that was what he envisoned himself to be someday .

It is also a matter of curiosity that Jiraya recognized some of the paths during his battle with the Paths of Pain .

The dispelling genjutsu theory was 1st clearly explained by Chiyo when they encountered the form of Itachi during the Gaara rescue arc . Regarding the Killerbee vs Saskue arc , the chakra was no ordinary but that of the 8 tailed beast . Perhaps this was powerful enuf even to dispel the genjutsu hold of the Tsukkyomi . This looks to me the likely possible reason .

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107 bone,i dont think tsukuyomi is transmitted in to chakra flow like normal genjutsus,i think it uses direct contact with the user,so it cant be disrupted through chakra flow!,but its just a theory,im not entirely sure about that!,what do u think?

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Anonymous said...

Hi 107 , this is 108 . yes i think that is the most plausible reason but during the Gaara rescue arc , the
9 tails did not activate itself to shake off naruto when he was trapped in Itachi's genjutsu . Sakura had to rouse him out of it .

It did not work on Killerbee not bcoz they just share the same body but they work as one also unlike Naruto who uses it only as a last and painful resort.

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dragon-lord1 said...

#115 ur english is very good,where are u from?,however u have gotten every simple fact wrong due to not reading our comments entirely!,u can see #107 bone has given a very good theory about the tsukuyom and killerbee thing!,and as for chiyo i know that,u still need to read my comment #93 ive mentioned it there!

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Anonymous said...

117 u should put a name,so we can recognize u!

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dragon-lord1 said...

119 lol u dont have a name either

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jman said...

oh yeah sorry about that im jman

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Anonymous said...

117, that was what i meant, but i didn't clarify it, thanks for doing that, and dragon-lord, that can work, tsukoyomi going direct to the mind, maybe damaging some part of the brain instead of infusing chakra, but we cannot certanly know until kishi clarifies it, and also i think yahiko was older when he got killed because i don't think he is growing up when he is already dead.

~~BONE

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dragon-lord1 said...

even though deidara sai that sasori is probably stronger than him,if they had fought,who do u guys think wuld win?,personally i think deidara would win because of his long ranged attacks,and he could blow up all sasoris puppets.if deidara uses h that bird,i dont think sasori would be able to touch him,unless his iron sand can reach that far!

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dragon-lord1 said...

122 BONE,thats just the thing i dont think kishi will clarifying it,because i dont think he knows about it!,about yahiko,thats the only reasonable answer,but u gotta admoit its interesting how these things are not noticed by many!!

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Anonymous said...

DL 123 100% agree,,,,,, maybe sasori had more experience, but deidara could blow away his puppets easier than sasori damaging deidara, if deidara could beat gaara, and sasori was beated by sakura and the old woman, its obvious deidara had the advantage against sasori.

~~BONE

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dragon-lord1 said...

sorry about the spelling,keyboard mistakes!!

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doom said...

there is good chance that sasuke used a normal genjutsu on killerbee.

i agree with you 87

and 83 dont forget that sasuke as fused with juugo (from where cursed seal born)flesh & chakra.

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Anonymous said...

124 DL, i know, maybe kishi got confused with so many things in his head, so he forgot that tsukoyomi could not be disspeled,,,, lol, i know maybe they didn't care about his age, or someone didn't want to post it.

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Anonymous said...

i'm 128 sorry again lol, forget nickname.

~~BONE

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dragon-lord1 said...

125 i agree,sasori had way way more expierience than any of akatsuki!,u know why?,because chiyo was about a 100 or something lol,and she specialized in puppet technuiqes as well,but she still was nothing compared to sasori,he was a true genius when it came to puppets!!,so if he had the same amount of expierience and genius in deidaras technuiqes,he would have beaten deidara easily,dont u think?

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dragon-lord1 said...

128 bone,yeah,afterall his only human lol!!

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dragon-lord1 said...

127 DOOM,no it was pretty clear that he used tsukuyomi on him!!

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dragon-lord1 said...

87 i dont agree with u,are u freakin kidding me?,do earnestly think sasuke would have been able beat pain by himselv????,naruto is way way way way more powerful than sasuke right now,i have explained it before,no need to go details,all u have done is put every tiny thing is about sasuke on the table,and u only put 4 things about naruto,well i could make an infinite list on what narutos got that sasuke doesnt!!,either u love sasuke,or u dont know anything about naruto the beast!!

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doom said...

hey dragon-lord1 y i think its a normal genjutsu bcuz itachi stated that tsukuyomi cannot be beaten and only a
sharingan user with same blood can defeat him.

if u do have any good reason to belive its a tsukuyomi plz share with me

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Anonymous said...

Any fight between any of the significant characters of Naruto no matter how mismatched they are can go either way .

Since fighting is all about using deception and knowledge (of the weaknesses) about your opponent to your advantage , the more u have of this , the better your chances of coming out as a winner .

Gaara vs Deidara fight could have had a different outcome if only Gaara did not have his village to defend
and use up most of his chakra .

The Jiraya vs Pain could have gone in Jiraya's favour if only Jiraya had figured out the real Pain earlier .

Even the Oro attack on Itachi during the Saskue vs Itachi fight could have gone in Oro's favour if only
Oro had waited instead of launching an attack so early on . If only Oro had known that Itachi was dying and that
his Susanoo cannot be maintained for long .

If only ...... hmmmm

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dragon-lord1 said...

134 doom,look here

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/413/08/

and here

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/413/09/

first he activates his mangekyou sharingan,then he uses the same jutsu itachi used on kakashi!!

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Anonymous said...

You know, I actually thought Deidara was one of the strongest Akatsuki members. Sasuke just has to have that sharingan of his...

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dragon-lord1 said...

135, good observation!!

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doom said...

i agree with 87. yes u right 135 same goes for naruto and pain fight if pain had his main power then it could have gone to pain's favor

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Anonymous said...

Also, I think that one of the biggest reasons Naruto was able to take down the six bodies of pain so easily is because he already knows their abilities. If Sasuke were to fight Pain and also known his abilities, maybe he could've beat Pain also.

And besides, if Naruto could beat Pain like that, does that mean Naruto could beat Salamander Hanzou too?

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doom said...

good 1 man

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dragon-lord1 said...

140 absolutely!!

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doom said...

thz dragon-lord1 i got ur point but its not the same jutsu itachi used on kakashi if i am right its said name was some moon thing and itachi had full contorl.

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dragon-lord1 said...

doom,so did sasuke,and its very similar to kakashis,olso itachi gave sasuke amaterasu,susano,and tsukuyomi,and this is tsukuyomi,sasuke only changed the game!!

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dragon-lord1 said...

anyway gotta go for now see ya all later!!,oh and DOOM,call me DL!,or DRAGON-LORD!

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doom said...

where did u got that form amsterasu or tsukuyomi is ok but susano is it stated any where in manga?????????

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Anonymous said...

Continuing with my Sasuke-Naruto argument

I agree with 140. The fact that Naruto had the slug advising him made gave Naruto a HUGE advantage.

The main point of my previous post was to emphasize Naruto's inexperience with the sharingan. When it comes to hand-to-hand fights, sure Naruto surpasses most. HOWEVER, Naruto has so little experience/knowledge about illusions and eye techniques that he'd have trouble dealing with it. A physical fight is very different than an illusionary fight. Naruto has never actually faced the sharingan at this level before.

Analyzing the Pain-Naruto fight. All of Pain's attacks were external and relied on physical attacks. The fight was all about taijutsu and ninjutsu, which Nartuo is fully capable of using. Genjutsu and all eye techniques however, are a completely diff type of battle.

Until Naruto masters the kyuubi's chakra or learns what Itachi gave him, i dont think naruto can stand up to the sharingan YET.

And I'm not saying i hate naruto or love sasuke. All i'm doing is presenting the facts. In fact, your biased view makes your judgments less plausible. This isn't meant as an insult, i'm just putting my opinion out.

~ Swordfish

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dragon-lord1 said...

146 doom,good thing i always check before i leave,noit doesnt state in the manga,but its something we all asune!!

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dragon-lord1 said...

sorry i meant asume

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dragon-lord1 said...

guys heres the DB version of naruto shippuuden movie 2 bonds dvdrip!!

http://www.mininova.org/com/2527658

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Anonymous said...

Itachi's death possibly awakened Saskue's MS but as to whether Itachi gained all the ultimate powers of the MS is only speculation .

I am refering to the Susano in particular . Until he is seen using it , i am inclined to believe that he does not
have it yet .

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Anonymous said...

sorry correction . shd read as "whether Saskue gained all the ultimate powers of the MS is only speculation ." . i am 151 . cheers !

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Anonymous said...

I just watched the naruto shippuuden movie 2 bonds .

Well now i know that there are not 9 tailed beasts but 10.

So is the Akatskui going to go after Amaru next ?

The 'Reibi' - the Zero Tailed beast whom Amaru is the host . never saw that coming . lol

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Anonymous said...

150 i think u meant u are 149 ?

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Thunderbolt said...

@147

There is 1 point i would like to make.
Pain did attacked him with his chkra rod and tried to get him in his genjutsu, rinnegan is most powerful, so is its genjutsu.
Naruto overcame his genjutsu easily, so in a way i think he can counter sasuke's genjutsu easily too. Not to forget if he makes clones for sage, they are enuf to break sasuke's genjutsu.

Itachi gave naruto something which helps in counter sharingan as he stated something like "I hope it doesn't come to this" while thinking about naruto and sasuke fight. It will automatically b activated like sasuke's did on madara.

Pure elemental attacks are more powerful than hibrid ones in terms of raw power.
But in reality their application matters, if u can apply pure elemental tech better than it is best.
Like naruto defeated yahiko using rasengan, didn't even needed FRS.

There is so long list that y naruto>>>sasuke i can't write it all :P

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Thunderbolt said...

there is also 1 qs, how could sasgay deafeat pain even if he know his abilities considering, pain can nullify his genjutsu coz of rinnegan and so many different bodies.

I can't find a way.

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Thunderbolt said...

What the hell is this i found it in a website

Ten-Tailed Wolf
Ten-Tailed Wolf
Name:Ten-Tailed Wolf (alias:Wolf Fang's Prophet)
Animal: Wolf
Host: Hikaru "Shadow" Kurosaki
Powers: Speed, Chakra, and power X10 of all the other bijuu combined, immortality of host(not like Hidan's immortality. It is better)
Status: Active, unknown to Akatsuki
[edit]Ten Tailed Fox
Main article: 10 Tailed Fox

The Ten Tails outside of Amegakure
Name: Ten Tailed Fox
Animal: Fox
Host: Ryun Uchiha, Tora Uchiha (Pseudo Jinchuriki)
Status: Active, left alone by Akatsuki
[edit]Thousand Tailed Fox
Thousand Tailed Fox
Name:Thousand Tailed Fox
Animal: Fox God
Host: Ryoku
Powers: Speed, Power, and Chakra is increased by 1000 fold to host. It grants the Host powers from Space, as well as all the elements and mastery of nature and shape manipulation. Also, its grants immortality by never aging its host, but the host can still die through being killed by an outside threat, by cannot die from something inside of him because of the fox's healing powers. (Ex. Gentle Fist, Disease)
Status: Active, Sealed within Ryoku
editThe Slabia of Darkness

The Slabia of Darkness
Name:The Slabia of Darkness
Animal: Bird
Host: Indo Huiyo (not the host)
Powers: (attributes that can transplanted) Sharingan, Purple Chakra, bird limits
Status: Active, targeted by Ignito and Kisame Hoshigake

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Thunderbolt said...

its sure a fanfic :P

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Flare101 said...

i think pains peace is death te break away from the cycle of life and after hearing naruto's answer i think nagato is going to wish to die by naruto's hands but thats just what i think anyone else got any good ideas?

Flare

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Flare101 said...

to 18

i read that like long ago like when i just started seeing the whole madara thing unfold with the unveiling that he is bigger than pain thing if you type in madara uchiha on google that post is on a forum and its one of the first results to come up and back then i thought it was a very good prediction theory type thing but with all of the new given evidence and stuff its like not so amazing

flare

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ero senin said...

my predictions
nagato will tell naruto of how they survived after jiraiya left them. most probably at the age 20-25 yahico died again involving someone from konoha. then nagato tried to reincarnate him by using the chakra rods.

nagato will most likely be impressed with naruto's peace answer. then he will be murdered by neji or some other konoha ninja or most likely by Madara.

madara will flee as soon as naruto charges at him. then konoha will be revealed. nauto, seeking peace of mind, goes out and will meet killer bee. then he will know about sasuke.

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doom said...

153 & 154 pain dont have any type of genjutsu he never used it .about the chakra rod seems to me that its use is more like a puppeteer type then genjutsu and pain can not counter genjutsu as well jiraiya used frong genjutsu to trap pain he was not able to counter that.

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Anonymous said...

#142 hey dragon lord,
i doubt that itachi had given susano to sasuke,and well i will have to say that this crossed my mind many times,could it be possible that susano is the power that itachi gave naruto to fight sasuke??Bcoz its my personal guess that susano can protect him even from amaterasu.
what do you say??
and u know something.i thought the very same explanation about repelling tsukuyomi that "doom" said,bcoz its something different with jinchurikis than other normal people,coz naruto does that too,i mean he has a conversation with kyuubi in a time which seems hardly a second to others.
so both,the bijuu and jinchuriki,face the same time period,thats what i think,that way its easy to undo tsukuyomi
bt unfortunately i dont think thats gonna happen in naruto's case bcoz kyuubi is a bit different from the other bijuu,
lets say all the bijuus we have seen-like one tail,two tails and eight tails,all of them can do a full transformation but naruto has this ristriction of not coming back to his normal form once he does a full transformation,so kyuubi is different from others and i doubt he will let naruto control him or help him to break a tsukuyomi,unless he masters the justsu that minato has left for him,and that should be his next training as soon as this fight with pain ends.
does any one have a guess who's gonna be his next teacher??
and DL tell me what do u think about itachi giving susano to naruto???

-----THE ONE

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ero senin said...

well, itachi giving nauto susanoo crossed my mind some times also. it is possible. it is also possible that itachi noticed naruto's weakness in dispelling genjutsu so he gave him some sort of protection against it.

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Anonymous said...

161 , Naruto is going to have a host of teachers from now on .

1. The Ghosts of Jiraya and Pa Toad will continue his Sage Training .

2. The Ghost of Minato will teach him the FTG .

3. The Ghost of Asuma will perfect his wind techniques

4. The Ghost of Kakashi will teach him the Chidori

5. The Ghost of Nagato (yes he will be dead soon) will
teach him the Shinra Tensei & the Banshou Tenin

6. The Ghost of Itachi will teach him how to use the
stuff which he stuffed into his mouth .

Crazy thoughts . lol

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Thunderbolt said...

yipee delhi daredevils won another one :)

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Anonymous said...

first the qb seems to be the only bijuu who is actively trying to escape from his host the others seem to at least be content being in jinchuriki. Earlier one of the akatsuki (i think maybe Hidan) said that the bijuu are more powerful with a host. Maybe that is why they don't mind being in a person. qb is differnet though since half of him was sealed away forever by minato he cannot survive outside of naruto

I think that the reason he wants so much to get naruto to remove the seal is that his only path to freedom is to gain full and permanent control over naruto. plus his tiime is running out. Even before jiraya messed with the seal naruto's chakra was clearly growing through the course of the manga. it's because the qb is slowly fading away as his chakra slowly fuses with naruto
(see issue #49 page 8) This means that eventually naruto will have all of the qb's virtually limitless chakra. I think this is the special power that minato talked about needing to face the masked akatsuki memeber. Plus once the chakras are fully fused the eternal ms will no longer be able to control the qb.

second as far as naruto breaking the ms genjutsu we have already seen in the sasuke itachi battle that sharingan of any type are just tools their real strength is determined by their user. and if i recall correctly the ms genjutsu basically transports the user and victim to a different dimension created by the user. But we also saw in the sasuke oro fight how Personal dimensions can be bent to the victims will if the will is strong enough. I don't think it was the sharingan that allowed sasuke to take over oros dimension, oro would not have underestimated the sharingan again after his run in with itachi. i think sasuke won because oro underestimated sasuke's strength of will. And who in the manga has a stonger will than naruto, combined with his new found strength and resolve plus whatever itachi gave him I don't think naruto would lose to sasuke's genjutsu

third I thought part of the eternal sharingan was that it never had to be turned off. If that is the case then i think kakashi does infact have eternal sharingan. kakashi said himself that his weakness is a lack of chakra stamina. I think that is why he covers over his sharingan because it is eternal cannot be shut off and he doesn't have the chakra stamina to handle it.
So i think when kakashi was dying and talking to his father the thing that suprised him towards the end was obito showing up and telling him that he wasn't going to die because his eternal sharingan would save him.

just a few thoughts

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Thunderbolt said...

nope kakashi don't have EMS
its just a sharingan eye taken from obito when it was activated.
As only uchihas can control sharingan so kakashi just can't shut it off or on, its in permanent activation.
Due to lack of chakra he can't move around with activated sharingan, so he has to cover it.

Only madara at present has EMS.

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doom said...

161 , Naruto teacher 3 left,
ma toad (still naruto left to learn toad ninjutsu and toad genjutsu,and about the scroll 4th left it is in some toad form.
Kakashi (cant die yet he need to teach naruto that 1000 jutsu)he is the one left with info on 4th
my wild guess is that great gramps toad (the great toad sennin) to whom Jiraya was taking or some new chracter will come in to story who is super strong

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Anonymous said...

to doom 167

There are 2 reasons why Naruto use genjutsu:

1) Jiraiya said himself that genjutsu is an ability you're born with, not something learned. Naruto isn't a genjutsu user, seen here

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/259/09/

2) sage genjutsu is impossible for naruto because it relies on the abilities of both ma and pa. Going back to the jiraiya-pain fight, the genjutsu was unique because it didn't rely on the eyes, but on vocal harmonization. ma and pa sang in perfect tune and those who heard it became trapped in the illusion. Because Pa is presumably dead now, Ma has no one to harmonize with, thereby making sage genjutsu incomplete for naruto.

However, the idea of Naruto training with the elder toads (those superior to ma and pa) is actually very interesting. There is one fault to it tho. The point of training with the toads was to master sage mode. Naruto has already done so, so im not sure what else he can learn from them. I still think learning from killerbee (8tails) or another jinchurikki would be cool and beneficial.

~ Swordfish

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Anonymous said...

crap, i forgot to give you the link for reason #2 above. here it is

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/379/09/

~ Swordfish

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doom said...

hmmmmm u r right.what u think about itachi giving nauto susanoo?i think its not going to happen reason is itachi said that it was "3rd and final technique along with tsukuyomi and amsterasu that awoke within these eyes on that fateful day" i dont think that a mangekyo sharigan technique can gave to normal people like naruto.

oh and yes Naruto has already master sage mode but still left to learn toad ninjutsu toad right and the scroll 4th left it is in some toad form so i think ma toad will play some role as teacher. what u think

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masashi said...

a few hints on future chapters

-the person close to naruto that is still alive is a woman
-the fight has an uexpected ending
-there is a spy among konohas anbu black ops,that is linked to Danzou
-Sasuke will have himselv a new Sensei,hint (a man who's eyes could tame a demon)

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masashi said...

i apologize for some bad spelling in my previous post

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Anonymous said...

do u guys think the sage of the six paths is still alive??

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Masashi said...

Thankfully, I am here to immediately relieve everyone of false amateur predictions done by the imitation-Masashi above.

Posts 171 and 172 should be disregarded, as they are done by the false-Masashi.

Are there any questions?

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NICK said...

I don't who to believe

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NICK said...

I meant i don't know who to believe Masashi 171 to 172 or 173 to 174

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Masashi said...

...NICK...:

The original Masashi account has a CAPITAL -M in Masashi.

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NICK said...

SO can you tell us who us who is that person close to naruto come on man were dying here lol please.

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NICK said...

Can you tell us if nagato going to fight naruto some more just a little details.

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Anonymous said...

A woman in Naruto's life ? Kushina returning ? Another punch to the stomach ?

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Masashi said...

Be Patient, the next chapter is already completed, as Golden Week is upon us.

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Anonymous said...

A spy among Anbu reporting to Danzo ? This is not surprising at all . Maybe Tsunade has a Spy in Root as well reporting to her ? LOL

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Heavenly Evil said...

I have a serious doubt guys whether Yahiko is dead or not. He seems to be the most powerful of all the Pains. He's peculiar. Maybe he too got paralysed like Nagato and Nagato used the chakra rods on him to help him survive. Why i say this is because dead people can't feel pain, but u can see God Realm screaming in pain after he was hit by Naruto's rasengan. What do u think?

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Anonymous said...

Oh yes , the Golden week . Happy Holidays to all our Japanese readers ! Enjoy your holidays coming around real soon !

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NICK said...

Masashi just a little piece just a little tell us something without any riddles lol come on man to man i'm just hopping it's not as boring as the previous one

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Rafa Federer said...

Those who think that Itachi gave Naruto susanoo are either new to the manga or just plain retarded! There is no way for Naruto to ever obtain susanoo because he is doesn't have the sharingan. If you recall, the susanoo is a Mangekyo sharingan technique that only certain Uchiha's can do.

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Anonymous said...

i'm pretty sure yahiko is dead the scream he let out seemed to me like more of one of rustraion that he was beaten than one of pain. plus if he was alive i think naruto would have noticed when he was pulling out the chakra spikes unless you think it was nagato's chakra that was sustaining his life in wich case naruto would have killed him by removing the spikes and i don't think that kishi would have had naruto's first kill be like that

plus if that was the case and naruto had just killed yahiko i don't think that nagato would then take the time to tell naruto a story

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Anonymous said...

187 oops frustration not rustraion

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Masashi said...

180, 182:

You've been misinformed...

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Heavenly Evil said...

What if Yahiko is unconscious after being hit! that is a possibility...

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Thunderbolt said...

hey Masashi we couldn't decipher ur last riddle about someone close to naruto being alive.

U gave a heck of a riddle, can u explain it?

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Thunderbolt said...

hey 171

2 of ur hints are obvious so stop pretending and get the hell out of here.

Fake masashi sud b banned, admins do something.

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Anonymous said...

hey i posted this in the last discussion (444 discussion 445 prediction thread) but it was almost at the final, so (i think) almost no one read it, tell me what you think of it.

so there is a ten tails beast in ancient japanese mytology, when i saw how pain created that little ''moon'' i was wondering if there could be a ten tailed beast, and maybe thats why the sage of the six paths created the moon, to trap the ten tails because it was destroying the world maybe,, and thats why pain tried to capture the kyuubi that way, with that little ''moon'', maybe pain heard how ten tailed was captured in the moon, so he tried that metod with the kyuubi, what do you guys think?

~~BONE

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Thunderbolt said...

na i don't think that was the reason to create moon, but yes there is 10 tailed beast also purple wolf not shown in naruto yet.

Its in japanese mythology. Purple wolf is strongest of all and has infinite chakra like qb (demonic powers).

I forgot its name, it was a 5 alphabet name.

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Anonymous said...

~~RON

Just want to say Hi to all!!!!! Peace to all good men!!!!!

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Anonymous said...

Hey 183 , dun have serious doubts about Yahiko man . He is seriously dead and passed and will stay dead from now onwards .

I think they will bury his body underneath one of the public toilets at Konoha after the reconstruction so all konohans have the chance to shit on top of him 24/7 .

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Anonymous said...

193 , the moon thing was just a myth . I think even Nagato does not fully believe the Moon was truly created by the Sage of the 6 paths .

Someone must have told him kid's stories such s thunder being caused because the gods in the sky were having a quarrel . LOL

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Anonymous said...

189 , nvm , fake or not , it is always interesting to talk about possibilities . LOL

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Anonymous said...

Naruto and Hinata has gotta happen, but how many of you wish Shion was in the Manga so there could be Naruto and Shion?

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masashi said...

fake Masashi,please do not play your little games here

and Thunderbolt im sorry if my presence here bothers you,but it is the committees decision,the ratings has dropped a great deal these past few weeks,im here untill the ratings rise again!,so if you have any questions regarding the manga,please ask away!

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